Finding my own way.

[LunaticReasonParticipant 78]

Hello Gentleman,

I thought I would finally introduce myself to the rest of the community. It was a friend who opened my eyes to the hypocrisy of third wave feminism and their claim of fighting for equality. It was through my own search for those who shared my philosophies and theory of the genders that I found mgtow because without being prompted I recognized the same things in regards to gender evolution, dimorphism, and our role in society and how we needed to break this gynocentric path we have all taken.

I hate to admit I was one of those blue pilled white-knights defending the rights of women because I believed in equality for all and still do. However as a man of reason I started to look at things objectively and when I did so any argument to contrary of what these modern feminists dictate was shot down and labelled misogynist, me a person who spent time defending these same women, then I started to realized that by supporting feminism I was supporting the demonization of men.

I loathed these types of women and the irony is that a lot of my Mgtow views came from my mom. My mother despite never taking on the title was what a true feminist should be,a second wave feminist. Someone who worked hard and didn’t use their gender as an excuse or used it to their advantage.  When I was younger she would shield and warn me from these types of women. Then I would see it as her being over protective and being mistrusting but now I see the value of her warnings.  She also encouraged my male traits and didn’t try to turn me into what we call blue pilled male. She of course could only do so much as a female to raise me with male values and so i’ll admit I am a bit “sensitive”.

Despite expressed aversion to marriage by Mgtow.  I wanna say that it isn’t all bad. My parent’s up until my mothers passing lived a happy married life and both she and my dad disliked that this modern generation would often throw away the sanctity of marriage on a whim. I understand unfortunately this is where society is at in terms of marriage and that its not beneficial for men to do so. It saddens me because despite the cost I would still like to one day be a father to children I could guide and nurture however that would put me at risk of the type of women who would later divorce me and take money that I do not have. I’m also as male ineligible to ever adopt because we are presumed pedophiles or incapable of nurturing.

Its funny two of my friends represent are sitting on the two opposing paths I could go. One friend is happily married with children and the other going through a bitter divorce and custody battle and I stand there thinking as a single male in his late 30’s  which way do I go?

[…Spectator 1165]

YO LunaticReason! Wassup? I’ll give you my take on your questions. First off are you married or single? When you say “marriage isn’t that bad” is that YOU saying after years of being married that it isn’t that bad or is it you looking at your parent’s example. If you are single, I gotta say you have no f~~~ing clue what you are talking about until you have actually been married.

When you started to realize that feminism is a bunch of bulls~~~ and you had the experience of being shot down and persecuted for speaking the truth, it really sucked didn’t it? That has been my experience throughout my whole life. I’ve been mgtow since the 80’s and now in the current social climate I basically can’t publicly say ANYTHING without horrible consequences, so I stopped talked about it and ended up here at this website.

I don’t see MGTOW as anti marriage AT ALL.  Each person makes their own choices and has to man up and live with those choices. I see it as  I personally think marriage is a fantastic 20th Century concept that used to work but was destroyed by the empowerment of female human nature that was unleashed 60 years ago giving women a false sense of entitlement and the internet has given female hive mentality a growing forum to publicly shame men for not doing what they wish them to do.

Now as to your final question “Which way do I go?” I’ll say this: Go your OWN WAY.  I don’t see any reason why a MGTOW man can’t be married as long as he fully understands the consequences of it not working out and has at least 500,000 dollars in the bank that the spouse doesn’t know about. That is called risk management. There will still be happy marriages with the small number of women who have wised up and realize the value of men and CORRECTLY perceived their role in their relationships. For me, being single is the way I roll. I like having complete control over my time, life, and resources. I think anyone getting married should do some research on this topic AFTER they’ve had a good blow job, a nap, a good meal and a strong cup of coffee. With no women around. Run a cost vs. benefit analysis and then check out the stories posted in the Introductions section of this website for a few hours.

This is a great forum. Read what’s here and make your own decisions. Only you are responsible for how your life turns out.

[LunaticReasonParticipant 78]

Yo back ListenUp,

I’m single like I mentioned at the end of my intro and yes I am basing it from not only my parents example but also the example of my other peers who are still married. Your right I have no clue which is why I say I’m on a crossroad of opinion about it because for every happy married family t I’m aware of people going through bitter divorce and it scares and saddens me.

Yeah being shot down sucked just for having my own opinion. When I speak to people I try to keep things civil but when it comes to feminist topics there seems to absolutely  no reasoning and I’m completely shut down with comments such as misogynist, troll, rape apologist and its usually comments that I try to look at both sides and yet they only see it as disagreement because the only side they can see it theirs.  I didn’t notice it until very recently because for the most part I had some blue pill tendencies to wanna side with women but I realized I didnt want to do so at the cost of my own honor and reasoning. Rather than telling them what they wanna hear I’m a little more open and honest with my opinions and i’m no longer interested in pleasing them in the hopes of acknowledgment and reward. Now that I’ve taken the red pill my eyes have opened up to all the blue pill men who throw themselves at women in the sad hope of pussy.

Well I’m glad Mgtow isn’t completely against marriage I guess its just against the state in which it is now with everything you said. I hope one day we can fix that but currently its just not as appealing for men. Right now I choose to remain single because financially its all I’m able to afford. I really don’t wanna shun all female contacts because a lot of my close friends are female and they’ve been there during hard time so i’m not gonna just abandon those friendships however it worries that some of their friends are like the feminists and blue pillers i’ve mentioned and I’m like should I speak out and alienate people? I’ve done so recently several times.

[…Spectator 1165]

Lunatic: I don’t think you should talk about MGTOW publicly at this point. You are obviously gaining awareness in how f~~~ed up everything is. Most people are NOT doing that. I had to make a choice about abandoning female friends over the holidays. I dumped all of them but one, my 3rd grade girlfriend who I still love and take care of…in my own way.

I had a very hard time not going nutz and full Alpha Male tonight at a club where I was working. There was a female there that was one of the largest ugliest whales I have ever seen. At least 300 pounds. When I was loading in my DJ rig I saw her waddling up the walkway to the show with a huge duck walk. Feet pointing all the way out, not towards where she was going. She had a on a hat, and those black legging leotard things that all the young hotties are wearing around LA. But her ass was as wide as the whole walkway. I wanted to f~~~ing puke.

Then, I go in, and the fat sow decides that she wants to talk to me and she takes a liking to me. It was a fate worse than death. I wanting to either tell her what I was thinking (cannot do EVER in public without losing work and getting shamed) or tell jump off the balcony and just give up on life altogether. The bartender thought it was hilarious because I kept trying to avoid this bitch by hanging out with him on my breaks but she kept on coming back for more of me even though I had blown her off as politely as f~~~ing possible before the event ever got under way. F~~~, I wanted to die hahahaha.

Point is: being a full man going his own way was not possible because of my need for money tonight. I had to be nice to everyone which is not my nature and try and SUPPRESS everything I was thinking and feeling the whole evening to get my money at the end of the night. She was pushy, wouldn’t take no for an answer…befriended another whale at the show and kept saying, “but my friend told me to talk to you.” oh man, i guess I should be laughing my ass off now that I’m safely home, but f~~~ dude, it was horrible. Had I done what was going through my mind, I would have gotten fired tonight. My boss was some Saudi bitch who is overwieght herself and she gave me s~~~ at the end of my show for not wanting to spend time with the whale and i was like “WHAT THE F~~~’ in my head but I just explained that I had to go to another show……yes, there it is again, I had to f~~~ing Leave! Women f~~~ing suck.

I love women, the ones from the 20th Century. These new ones freak me out and never fail to p~~~ me off.

[LunaticReasonParticipant 78]

ListenUp: That clubbing story sounds brutal. Although I have friends both male and female with weight issues but least they are self aware and trying to do something about it.
There seems to be a disconnect from reality from the one you’re describing because she seems to be the type to think I’m beautiful no matter how fat my ass gets because Megan Trainor told me so and i’ll wear inappropriate clothing for my body type.  Part of me would try to be a little more sympathetic and not hurt her feelings but then I realize most women probably wouldn’t show that same courtesy.

Although it may hurt her she needs that brutal honesty because at that moment fat bitch is delusional and she’s gonna go through life doing nothing about it.  So many women are like that nowadays. It reminds me of the fable of the emperor’s new clothes. Everyone saying how great he looks when he’s walking around like a naked idiot until some kid points it out.

As for your boss yeah I would be p~~~ed off too your not there to whore yourself to ugly bitches so she can make money. If a man said that to a female employer people would have no problem shouting sexual exploitation.

[…Spectator 1165]

lunaticreason: of course all the women sucked. .and here’s the worst part: there were several 20 something girls there thinking i was a bad ass alpha because i was spinning scrillex, zedd, knife party, etc. and the fat whales all came and HIT ON THE GIRLS WHO WANTED ME. I’m glad I have high grade sedatives right now hahahahahha.

[– Deleted on Request –Spectator 936]

Et tu, ListenUp?

 

I, too, have been hit on by land whales.  That in itself is bad enough, though not incurable.  One can always eat less and go to the gym, right?  The biggest problem is that they had little between the ears that might have interested me or have been otherwise useful.

 

With me, charm isn’t enough.  One also needs to use one’s brains for more than preventing one’s ears from colliding.

 

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