Are You Happy? What Makes You Happy?

[RayBandakuParticipant 888]

I am happy going my own way, doing what I love.

Finally being on my own without a woman makes me happy and peaceful.

I live my life on my own terms without any comprimises because of others.

I don’t need to be a certain way to impress others. Being my true self will bring the right friends into my life. What ever happens in my life I am still happy and at peace being on my own.

Please do share your wisdom on this matter, it might help me and fellow MGTOW brothers here.

[Anonymous 3]

I cant see an image, but…

Finding “a” husband is easy, as long as the woman is herself attractive physically and with good personality.

But when you have an overinflated opinion of yourself, ARE actually overinflated, have the personality of a wild cat with an attitude, and are still very picky about the man you want… Then its hard.

I would say some women dont deserve any man, most woman dont want just any man, and no man deserves today’s females.

[RayBandakuParticipant 888]

Sorry Manfred, I edited the topic and changed it to a new topic on happiness. Thank you for your replay on previous topic.

[DocParticipant]

Happiness is an imaginary state created in our heads as a benchmark by which we measure reality.

I hope you don’t mind me sharing this with you – it’s on topic but it doesn’t answer your question. Just my formulation of a number of thoughts I have had on happiness/Joy/satisfaction etc.

The painful reality – reality is painful.

The struggle with dealing with reality occurs because we don’t like reality period.
Reality only offers fleeting moments of respite from its unending pain with moments of joy. Before we slide back into reality’s dull ache.
Consequently we repeat our daily behaviors to the extent that when we wake each day we set the autopilot and retreat into our inner world creating realities that soothe the ache true reality inflicts on us.
We tell ourselves that we would be happy if the reality we create in our heads was to be true reality.
But if that were to be we would still feel the ache and still retreat inside and create our own reality all over again.
The simple truth is that reality hurts and that is because it is meant to. The ability to imagine a better reality compared to the reality you are truly living in exists because it is a survival mechanism. We are programmed to dislike reality so we keep evolving as a species. A species that doesn’t adapt to its reality doesn’t survive.
The species that not only adapts but also manipulate its reality will thrive.
But to be content with reality means to be overtaken by a species that doesn’t like its reality. So reality hurts. Perpetually. If it didn’t we would have died out by now.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[MonkParticipant 16988]

Look at it from the other end of the telescope. Most men are happy by default. What makes me happy is the absence of things that make me unhappy.

[WallyParticipant]

Just sitting here enjoying the peace, just made some meals for the week, eating a bowl of Chili, dog is chewing a rawhide next to me, if this isn’t happiness not sure what is.

Monk wrote:

Look at it from the other end of the telescope. Most men are happy by default. What makes me happy is the absence of things that make me unhappy.

This, well said

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[Branched offParticipant 10929]

I think that happiness is a very broad concept that it is hard to pin down without a tight definition.

Very broadly, I think there are three categories -pleasure, enjoyment and satisfaction.

It is not possible to attain a pain free state nor is it desirable to seek it as to some extent pain, misery and dissatisfaction drive us to seek their opposites and give us reason to be thankful and satisfied when we achieve their absence.

That said I think the old epicureans had a lot going for them. The gods do not care about our little dramas, so do not get worried about pleasing them. seek satisfaction foremost as it is the most long lasting form of happiness (they only distinguished between satisfaction and passing pleasure), seek to minimise pain, seek simple cheap satisfactions.

So I am happy when I eat good healthy food, When I achieve my goals, when I spend time in nature, when I see my children do well. I do enjoy sex but to seek it out seems to create more dissatisfaction, cost and misery than the pleasure is currently worth. So I do enjoy it but do not seek it.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22515]

RayBandaku wrote:

I am happy going my own way, doing what I love.
Finally being on my own without a woman makes me happy and peaceful.
I live my life on my own terms without any comprimises because of others.
I don’t need to be a certain way to impress others. Being my true self will bring the right friends into my life. What ever happens in my life I am still happy and at peace being on my own.
Please do share your wisdom on this matter, it might help me and fellow MGTOW brothers here.

Its not even about being a certain way to impress others, its having to constantly assess yourself concerned she’s going to be ‘offended’ at something. The walking on eggshells bs.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22515]

Monk wrote:

Look at it from the other end of the telescope. Most men are happy by default. What makes me happy is the absence of things that make me unhappy.

Most guys arent happy. Happy is a peak emotion.

Majority of guys know how to be content enough. Majority of guys can, to one degree or another, exercise delayed gratification for longer term goals, and can work towards an end.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[StealthParticipant 5335]

It’s funny for me to say this, as a philosophy major who spent a great deal of time examining theories of happiness, but…
I generally avoid this question, as I have come to find it meaningless.
I find most women and consumers are preoccupied with this question, as if there is some abstract state of bliss outside of themselves that they must seek out, forever hypergamous or forever in debt.
Instead, I ask questions like, Are you healthy? Is your mind right? Are you building your life up or contributing to society? Where’s the beer?

"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

[StealthParticipant 5335]

Basically, worrying about it is the problem. I think “being happy” is an imaginary state which I’m not too concerned about, almost like whether or not you are “really,” “truly” “in love.”

"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

[RayBandakuParticipant 888]

To me unhappiness comes from being with wrong people who create drama, cause stress, anger, distraction and distrubence in my life.

To me happiness comes from being at peace at all times by getting rid of wrong people who cause stress, anger, distraction and distrubence in my life.

Happiness for me is about enjoying peaceful undisturbed life. To love my life just the way it is, doing what I love on my own terms, going my own way and also enjoying life as it is unfolding into the future. I will continue to make the effort to remove any person or thing that takes away my inner peace and happiness.

When mind is at peace we naturally go back to happy state being.

Happiness and peace is our true nature but ego mind and its attachments, addictions, drama and misery causes us to lose our true peaceful and happy state of being.

By keeping my mind at peace makes me be in a happy state of being as I work towards achieving my goals.

Thank you for sharing, enjoy going your way.

[StealthParticipant 5335]

For anyone looking for the classic response to this question, check out Aristotle:

Aristotle

Happiness comes from living a good life, characterized by the practice of virtue… virtue not in a prudish, white knight sense, but rather the habits conducive to fulfilling your highest nature as a man. In the end, it’s the life of contemplation, or the process of constantly striving for practical virtuous ideals, that is the happiest–or to interpret slightly, striving for constant improvement in line with your highest intellectual ideals.

"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

[ChristopherParticipant 2478]

If socalled happiness is based on some excessive materialistic state or situation it is potentially a transient state as material and bodily circumstances/situations can change anytime. That doesnt mean we cant be rich however misery and happiness can come and go in this material world just like winter and summer. Ongoing correct Action in life and non attachment with toxic situations/relationships is the basis for contentment and inner peace/happiness – long term imho that must be based on a spiritual foundation and/or adherence to original untainted spiritual knowledge (distinct from incorrect or distorted religious dogma).

I had a temporary physical happiness of sorts when I was with an ex who was a model but in hindsight it was not happiness it was a transitory illusion and when she had the ring she turned into a headwrecker which made me not happy – the moment I walked out the door I felt happy again. More reliable forms of happiness in the past were when hiking in nature with friends or playing sports, music, DJing, reading. With my health I can no longer hike or play sports. The fact that my father helped me when I was extremely ill made me happy despite the ongoing pain but when I was young the dynamic between my parents made me not happy. All temporary situations.

The most stable form of inner happiness and learning I have had in life was when I lived as a monk in monastery – the internal peace and bliss I experienced was completely new to me and beyond anything I had experienced – for those years dropping messy energy draining aspects of my life/relationships and my own incorrect habits left me to see that what was underneath all that was a happy peaceful man. Happiness is the natural undisturbed state of a man Sat Cit Ananda.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satcitananda
Nowadays spiritual aspects to my daily life however imperfect give me a form of stable contentment despite ongoing health condition. Some ancient words from the East – The Bhagavad-gita advises us to tolerate both happiness and distress and to keep worshiping God despite everything.

Life can be harder when we believe that God will not satisfy us and therefore pursue happiness in very transient things like relationships with misguided women. The Buddha taught that nothing lasts, so be attached to nothing or desire nothing – but this is impossible. Jesus taught that One Thing lasts, so at all cost, be attached to that! “The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field, which a man found and covered up. Then in his joy he goes and sells all that he has and buys that field. (Matthew 13:45)”

Krishna said:
“Meet this transient world with neither grasping or fear – trust the unfolding of life and you will attain serenity”
“You came here empty handed and so you will leave”
“Happiness is of the soul. The soul can never be cut to pieces, nor burned by fire, nor moistened by water or withered by the wind”
“It is better to live your own destiny imperfectly but happily than to live an imitation of somebody’s life with perfection and sorrow”

Feminism was funded by bankers/politicians to create more taxpayers. MGTOW IS FREEDOM https://archive.org/details/mgtowisfreedomblurayready

[Anonymous 3]

Happiness only exist with dualism, therefore one cannot be happy without being unhappy. One defines the other.
I only know freedom by knowing lack of freedom. I only know peace by being around drama.

If one goes looking for something, then it looks for good things, but also finds its opposite. Since looking is no guarantee of finding, the one gets unhappy for not finding happiness.

It is better to enjoy life. Even what happens that is “bad” can hold its own value. Acceptance and appreciation, patience and awareness, these are the ingredients for contentment.

[AutoliteParticipant]

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

Most guys arent happy. Happy is a peak emotion.
Majority of guys know how to be content enough.

I prefer the word “comfortable”. I am more comfortable without a woman in my life and I am most comfortable when people just leave me alone…

[CPT ObviousParticipant 2729]

Monk wrote:

Look at it from the other end of the telescope. Most men are happy by default. What makes me happy is the absence of things that make me unhappy.

I am with Monk on this. On my own and left to my own devices, I am generally in a happy and peaceful state.

I told my ex-GF that as long as I was as happy with her as being alone, I would continue in relationship.

In retrospect, that meant nothing to her. She is only happy with someone even if it’s a complete sh1t show.

"You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."

[StealthParticipant 5335]

Autolite wrote:

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

Most guys arent happy. Happy is a peak emotion.Majority of guys know how to be content enough.

I prefer the word “comfortable”. I am more comfortable without a woman in my life and I am most comfortable when people just leave me alone…

“Comfortable” is a synonym for “dead.”
It means your brain is unplugged and you are not being challenged.
It is an antithesis to life.

"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

[CPT ObviousParticipant 2729]

Stealth wrote:

Instead, I ask questions like, Are you healthy? Is your mind right? Are you building your life up or contributing to society? Where’s the beer?

LOL. Amen.

"You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."

[The Black ScorpionParticipant 2146]

I find that if you strive to live each day to its fullest – happiness takes care of itself.

The greatest tragedy in life is to spend your whole life fishing only to discover that it was not fish you were after. - Henry David Thoreau

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