Financial differences in divorce

[AposematicParticipant 2671]

https://www.theage.com.au/lifestyle/life-and-relationships/cheaper-in-pairs-single-parents-dodge-poverty-by-finding-new-love-20190315-p514m3.html

An intersting article covering the differences in income for men/women repartnering/ staying single after divorce/
Hint… it is ugly for the wimminz that do not repartner %)

Paywall, open in private/incognito window men.

Afinogyny.. from the Greek Afino {to abandon/ to set down/ to leave /to allow/ to let } + Gyny {Women} MGHOW’s philosophy to not engage women without “hating them”. Narcorca =Narcissistic Orca typically spouting to a bathroom mirror taking an arms length selfie ; Wallinate describes post wall females whose SMV is terminally negligible New Years resolution "To not make women happy" . Instadestitue: yet another Neologism for Men that cohabit with women that decide to pull the handle of intervention orders.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

I can imagine that women will use this information to say that they don’t get enough cash and prizes out of the divorce. Because the other “alternative” reason for their poverty would be that women in general suck at personal finance. But that would take accountability and responsibility into play. And that certainly couldn’t be the reason.

Order the good wine

[Mr. SpockParticipant 10907]

Looks like another way to make women appear as victims. The recent stats say that women initiate 80% of the divorces and that doesn’t look well for the feminists. So they create a stat that paints a bleak picture of women who divorce. Funny thing is most women are poorer when they remained single BEFORE getting married as well. That isn’t mentioned in the article either. Most women come out ahead financially after a divorce and if they become poorer than it’s a reflection of their lack of discipline in the handling of their financial matters.
The article also mentions how men are less likely to be poorer after they partner up. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that men tend to work the skilled jobs that make more money so they are in a much better position to recover with or without a new partner. Meanwhile even after divorced women HAVE partnered up again, they are still more likely to be poor. Why? Well because they don’t have the skills to make enough money (never had the interest to) and the only guys left willing to partner with them are the Chad’s and the low life thugs who either don’t work or never acquired the skills to make enough money.

Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

So the criteria for poverty is based off household income, and just playing connect the dots, the average age of first marriage for a woman in Australia is 29.8, and 55% of college grads in Australia are women.

Why do these strong, independent, educated women that have had plenty of years prior to marriage to get established in a career suck so hard at taking care of themselves post divorce?

They’ll spin these statistics to try to make it like somehow women are victims but in reality all these statistics are saying is women are lazy hypergamous gold diggers who end up not doing so well when the post marriage monkey branching doesn’t work out for them.

[OgreParticipant 5863]

It seems to reflect that giving up ten years of more of gainful employment “for the kids” impacts the ability to find gainful employment after they pull the pin on their marriage. Since unmarried women in their late 20S make more than male peers, the benevolent thing for men to do is to never marry them.

MGTOW is actually beneficial to BOTH men and women.

I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.

[SwimcatParticipant 3589]

I’ve been in Medicare Insurance business for years. I see people in their retirement. The poorest people I see are women that have been divorced for years. If young women could see the long term effects that I see they’d think twice before they go running to that lawyer. Men recover in the long run. That has always been my message to divorced men. Don’t lose hope and don’t get married again. Focus on making money.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Ogre wrote:

It seems to reflect that giving up ten years of more of gainful employment “for the kids” impacts the ability to find gainful employment after they pull the pin on their marriage.

Its disgusting how this works. I have a coworker who got married last year. His now wife is an engineer with some student debt. He didn’t really think too much about it because she made good money. She got pregnant shortly after they got married, which he was ok with, and shortly after that she informed him she wouldn’t be going back to work after the kid was born. He wanted her to continue working post child, she told him no, he can’t do anything.

So now he goes from thinking they’ll be a dual income house raking in 200k+ per year to realizing he can’t do jack s~~~ if she doesn’t want to go back to work, and he’s now responsible for her student loan payments. To top it off they had both recently bought new cars and they bought a house…so the guy pretty much just went from a situation where his only debt was his car payment and he was dating a chick who was making good money and paying half the bills to a situation where he now has to fully support her and pay a mortgage, 2 car payments, and her student loans.

So what happens if they get divorced now? She gets to claim raising his child ruined her career and he owes her? Yeah lol…f~~~ that, marriage is dumb. It gets even worse that women can claim this same thing despite never having actually done anything to have a career prior to the kid…like they go from answering a phone at some doctors office for 11 dollars an hour with no plans to further their schooling or do anything to make themselves more marketable, to staying home with a kid for a few years, to divorce raping the husband and claiming children hindered her career. The fact is most people just end up in average paying dead end jobs anyhow…these women aren’t having their careers wrecked, they’re getting a vacation on some dudes back for a period of time and are too stupid to realize how good they have it until its gone.

[SpiderHerderParticipant 3753]

Beer,

Seems like she is only thinking of herself. Not thinking about the kid (because their family is already ruined which will f~~~ up the kid) and certainly not thinking about the husband.

That’s the kind of story I’ve also heard from coworkers… and it makes me cringe.

GMOW until the end.

[SwimcatParticipant 3589]

Having that pregnancy test turn blue is the game changer. It gives them every advantage.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

SpiderHerder wrote:

Beer,

Seems like she is only thinking of herself. Not thinking about the kid (because their family is already ruined which will f~~~ up the kid) and certainly not thinking about the husband.

That’s the kind of story I’ve also heard from coworkers… and it makes me cringe.

GMOW until the end.

Definitely.

I grew up in a single income household with a stay at home mom, so this situation was what I considered normal growing up. It wasn’t until college that I thought “absolutely never.” You meet enough stupid c~~~s accumulating mountains of student debt for social work and early childhood education degrees so they can make 12 dollars an hour when they graduate while they run their mouths about how their grandmother was a slave to their grandfather and after a while its just like f~~~ you stupid c~~~s, I will never be a workhorse for one of you. Its kind of comical how much better most of their grandmother’s lives will have been than theirs.

In my younger blue pill days I could have respected a young woman who just flat out said “I want to be a stay at home wife and a mother.” Once they have spent their 20s riding the carousel and running up debt though…its just like absolutely not…I will not pay a premium for high mileage pussy when the only “benefit” of marriage is divorce, and divorce isn’t going to favor me. If they ultimately just wanted to make babies and not have a job, they’d have been better off taking cooking lessons than getting an 80,000 dollar useless degree a hoping to eventually find a man stupid enough to marry into their debt. At least they could have gave the illusion to a potential husband they weren’t a total liability right from the start.

Every time I hear a story about some poor sucker who’s little wifey finds some excuse to ditch her job shortly after the wedding, or who wasn’t completely honest about her levels of debt until after the wedding, its just more validation that marriage these days is an absolute horrible decision.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

I wonder what the math would show for divorced men, doing a study on what they would have, if they had never gotten married ever?

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[narwhalParticipant]

Stats like this annoy me, as they don’t really tell the story of what’s happening. Tying the word ‘poor’ to your yearly income is not accurate. The opposite of wealthy is poor, and being wealthy means you have alot of assets. It does not mean you have a high income. If an employed person wins the lottery tomorrow, they would be wealthy for life, but this stat would count them as poor every year but when they one the lottery.

In the US, received child support is not counted as income on your tax return. It is counted as income on the person who provides the child support. So an unemployed mother might be considered poor in this chart, but that does not mean she has a lower check every month than the guy who pays her child support.

And then there is the matter of incentive. What happens to the father who fails to provide a home for his kids and provide child support to the mother? He loses access to the kids at a minimum, possibly ends up in jail. What happens to the mother who fails to provide a home and/or provide child support (rare)? She gets a welfare check from the government.

So what are the forces that drive a man’s income to increase when repartner’s? Despite the fact that there is no a dual income, it only jumps 10%? Is she providing her fair share? Is he driven to provide even more because he has more dependents?

What are the forces that drive a woman’s income to increase by 40% when she repartner’s? Does the dual income help her? Is she motivated that much more to provide income for her family?

But let’s return to the original point for a second. Income doesn’t define wealthy and poor, assets do. The really question shouldn’t be whether a single or married father has a greater income, it should be whether or not he has more assets. Which man has more dependents, more financial commitments. Which man has greater freedom to spend and invest his earnings as he chooses? Which man is more likely to provide greater inheritance to his children?

Ok. Then do it.

[narwhalParticipant]

Ranger One wrote:

I wonder what the math would show for divorced men, doing a study on what they would have, if they had never gotten married ever?

I don’t like to think about this question.

Around the time before I got married, I had started to do some international travel/consulting for the particular software that I support/develop in. I had done 3 weeks in Dublin, which went very well. I had an offer to do 6 months across several Asia/Pacific locations with a major consulting firm. If I had taken that offer, not only would I have zero expense for 6 months, but I would have been well established for future gigs internationally. I was about to get engaged so I turned it down.

I have little doubt that my life would be very different now if I had chose that route. However, it’s not like the itch to get married would have gone away. I likely would have got married to some one else at some point, and could have very well ended up in a worse situation. I would not have magically learned the lesson.

But, from a statistical standpoint, assuming my income rise remained unchanged (or even slightly less), yet I never had the expenses that came with marriage and kids….I’d be thinking about retirement. Even if my salary had never raised more than cost of living, I would be in tremendous shape with retirement a real option in the near future.

Ok. Then do it.

[JB BooksParticipant 3182]

Chop, chop gentlemen – time to become Captain Save-a-Ho and protect all them THOTs from dire straits!

We just don't realize life's most significant events while they're happening. Back then, I thought, "Well, there'll be other days". I didn't realize that that was the only day. - "Moonlight" Graham

[Buller100Participant 2189]

Why no statistics of wealth before marriage ? Given 99.99% of all women marry up financially… it blows them out of the water ,every more now days as they earn the same in many jobs.

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