FINALY i OWN MY LIFE

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

Hey brothers I am 52 come feb 14   yes all my life instead of celebrating my birthday was buying useless trinkets and flowers for UN-appreciative women. 12 years of marriage 15 years of the state of Oklahoma and the department of human services looking over my shoulder. in 2012 I received a subpena to show up in court and show cause why I should not be charged with indirect contempt of court for non-payment of child support. At the time I was working in Texas and the support was being taken from my checks. I started my study of law then to find out if they could give me a criminal record if I just failed to show up.Turns out the answer was no. Oklahoma statutes on indirect contempt says no action may be taken by the courts until the accused is before the court. What? No action? Was totally shocked at finding this out. I could just toss every threatening letter in the trash and they could do nothing and maybe i should have handled it that way. But I was ANGRY! I came across a youtube video of Carl Miller called “kick ass constitution man.” more law studies. conveniently lost my drivers license and when getting my new one they asked for my signature I signed my name and under my name very small I wrote in caps UD  UCC1-207 WITHOUT PREJUDICE” from then on I became a traveler, not a driver or motor-vehicle operator. The right to travel is a constitutionally protected right. What has this got to do with child support? you may ask. the   subpena said to bring all my paperwork showing everything I owned: property deeds, bank accounts, car and truck titles for vehicle registered in Oklahoma.I wanted to show up in court having nothing for them to take away from me. I only had a 90 model ford pu and a camper that I had been living in, so I just let the Oklahoma registration on both expire.I bought a dodge registered it in Texas and headed to OK to face the music in court.Now I could say with all honesty I had nothing registered in Oklahoma, and if they make the threat of suspending my driving privileges it would be an empty threat as I never  again planed to drive or operate a motor-vehicle again for the rest of my life only travel, which I still have every right to do.

I set up at a friends house found some stonework and waited for my court date.I had watched Carl Millers videos enough to have memorized what to say in court. I recommend you guys in the US watch them, memorize everything don’t read from a paper if you decide to do what I did because although I was willing to fight tooth and nail all the way to the supreme court I didn’t really want that.It was a big bluff on my part and it worked partly because I did my homework and partly because I was lucky to be up against a women attorney for the state of Oklahoma. She tried nine ways from Sunday to get me to take a public defender,but I stood my ground. Vicky Hammel  attorney for the state of Oklahoma leflore co had a large caseload and I knew it. I would use this to my advantage.I had only my case to work on.Through the years I had made bank transfers to pay child support directly to my ex. I avoided paying through the state. The only money that went through the department of human services was the money they took from my check without my consent while at the same time bringing up this charge against me.If you send one check or money order through the state they have proof you consented to do so.I never signed any waivers they put in front of me and insisted on a jury trial.”I told her I would stand in court and claim the right to directly support my child pursuant to her needs and if one juror agreed I should have that right I would win. Not only would she have a loss on her record but a loss to a non-attorney.” This worked, She asked the case be dismissed.There is more as I talked to her several times acting as my own lawyer.She put things off a few weeks several times acting as though a trial was gonna happen but by this time I knew she was bluffing.I just called her every bet with a raise of my own.In my book A dismissal is a win. But I will never get back the years I set my dreams and ambitions on hold knowing they would take from me anything and everything they could, so really guys even when you  beat them you still lose.A good thing now my birthday will not fall on valentines day this year thanks for that, Happy MGTOW day! Roses are red and pass the beer-nuts.My daughter is in college now so my life is mine.I learned a lot about the laws in this country and a lot about myself. learn and gain knowledge from your mistakes but gain wisdom from the mistakes of others. All you young men go your own way and own your own life, those years are your best. I didn’t marry until 27 years old.I recently found a pic of me at 25 on my bike,I looked ready to take on the world.

 

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[…Spectator 1165]

Hello Harpomason: Wow man, you took the situation into your own hands and figured it out and handled it like a man. good job! yes, women seem to have all kinds of time on their hands to f~~~ with people in situations like this while the men often say exactly what you said: you want those years back! Glad you figured it out. you will be amongst friends here. welcome to mgtow.

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

Hats off to you for that Harpo…
Someone like you, with knowledge of the system, should write a book for other fathers in the same situation. What you wrote about yours being the only case for you to work on, but one of many for the state attorney to work on, is important. The courts could be more fair in the way they manage custody etc, but it would take a lot more effort. It seems it’s easier for them to just give women all the power and assume that this is less bad than giving men all the power. Then they can just rubber stamp whatever they need to for women and not have to make the effort to really balance things fairly.

I don’t know if I’ll ever have kids, but if I do, it will only be through an adoption of some war orphan or disaster ophan somewhere, or paid surrogacy. I’m just not signing up for this bulls~~~ system of reproduction run by women and their state enforcers…

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[Anonymous 42]

@harpomason,

I hear you man; Our cases span 41 years, several filed claims, multiple injunctions, judicial eviction orders, multiple cease&desists, Final Decrees, Illegal operations, criminal reckless endangerment, contempt of court order, including a “deceleration of independence”and much much much much more! We loaded the inspector general, and attorney general of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, with about 65lbs.(29.5 kg.) of incriminating documents placing the Commonwealth of Massachusetts in direct violation of Massachusetts General Law; thereby jeopardizing and destroying the integrity of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts as a lawful and legitimate form of government.) But anyway, you should have seen those f~~~ing lawyers run! That’s right, back to the snake pit (bar association) with the lot of them!

The up side, 280 acres(1.1331e+6m²) 16 abandoned roads, 14 miles (22.5 km.), one 35 acre (1.4164e+5m²) private lake,

I live in an abandoned forest in the peaceful abyss of endless corruption…..All our claims are still in litigation, and most of my paper work is turning yellow and brown……

That’s another story, I’ll no longer comment on……… MGTOW is much more important!

[…Spectator 1165]

MG-Tower i love hearing these “we kicked the lawyers ass” stories man. keep ’em coming.

[Anonymous 42]

I never lost a case, and I’m not a lawyer, I do not recommend fighting when you’re in the wrong….

A game warden charged me with criminal trespassing on railroad property. I told the female prosecutor to drop the case! She did not! I took pictures of a properly secured train-yard facility; then I took pictures of the alleged trespass location: Void of No trespassing signs, the gate was wide open and abandoned for years, so much so, vines ensnared the gate and secured it to the fence. I was only a simple man hiking that day……Oh but it gets better…. That f~~~ing C~~~ prosecutor, made sure that I would be heard last……. I sat there and watched others (about 6 or 7 people) get criminal convictions for the exact same thing, on the exact same day, the exact same location, by the exact same game warden….. It was my turn, and I was up to BAT! I tore that c~~~ a new asshole with exhibits “A”  through “F”, “pictures “ it was f~~~ing great watching that c~~~ shuffle papers, pull her hair, flipping pencils, she couldn’t look me in the eye! I just kept on charging like an enraged bull! Even the Judge was onto her bulls~~~ putting me last to be heard….The Judge also a woman, had a look on her face that reflected,  judicial travesty, she immediately dismissed my case and slammed that f~~~ing gavel hard; once again, I was free to go………………

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

This just shows the superiority of men.An average man with only high school vs a professional woman with colledge. And she chose to back down before the contest began.  Brainpilot I am writing a book. One exerpt is in money and finance: My fathers lesson on “the value of a dollar” My first of many books I plan to write.

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Awesome intro @harpomason. Grabbing by the sack.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

They was on to you.  They put you last so you could not show the others how to win. I have been done this way in traffic court also. The duality of our citizenship was established in the case of Erie railroad vs Tompkins  A case similar to your own and a very important landmark decision was made in the supreme court. Without this case we could not ask for common law relief. Its an interesting read.

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[Anonymous 42]

Of course, I made full disclosure, I had to! She could not just dismiss my case, and not dismiss the others, it’s just another example on how the deck is stacked against you. I no longer enter anywhere construed private. I will not stop at a rest area (arrest area) I avoid Courtamination directly or indirectly by using good judgment.

I was at WALL-MART when a fight broke out, what direction do you think I headed in? People were excited and running past me to see the fight, I not only look the other way, I run the other way! I was 26 when I won that criminal trespass case…I gained nothing, other than the wisdom to avoid trouble.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

 

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[…Spectator 1165]

Looking good Harpo!

[WeGoDarkParticipant 6]

@harpomason…man that was a great story. All states have different laws and California has some of the strictest laws against fathers in the nation…you grabbed the bulll by the horns and b~~~~…stay strong my brother!

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

Someone started a topic called “when did you know you were mgtow” I rambled on so long figured I would add my reply here, as the stories are linked..

 

This may sound strange but The levels of freedom I feel correlated with the real freedom I experience and differs from the eye opening knowledge I gained through out my marriage and divorce… let me explain it this way:

I started living more for myself even before I was divorced.  I became aware of my shackles while married, and correctly predicted every move my X-wife made before she made it…I never told her I knew her intentions or let on but I never the less knew…In my mind I knew the timing for her infidelity would be some time shortly after our daughter was born. believing in my gut instincts I kept closer tabs on her during the weeks after the birth. This made it easy to catch her and extracted confessions from both her and him..The old police trick saying the other already spilled the beans… I was definitely trapped with someone I knew very well, she was no mystery to me.. I actively worked towards the conditions that would cause her to seek the divorce…She lost control of me and knew it…The manipulation was reversed…having her cheating as a weapon in any dispute she was docile in this regard, we did not fight….Nor did she make much for demands….All this was going on from 1995- 2001…Six years of silent hell for me, knowing all the while,  I wanted out…In 1999 I lost my father to lung cancer and the same year we filed bankrupt….This is the unbelievable part, but very true….in 2001 I was working at the highest hourly paying job in my life…payed off my wife’s mini-van the fifth vehicle she owned in our 12 year marriage….I drove the same truck throughout…took all my vacation pay at once and payed off our house…..boggles my mind when I think back at it…  bankrupt in 1999–Paid for home in 2001…was I a good provider or what? The answer is or what…I was working for my freedom, but to obtain it I had to provide her with the right conditions… The owner financed property is another story for later….I knew freedom was close as conditions were right for her to dump a man she had no control over anyways….so in conclusion I was living and working for my own freedom before I could actually enjoy it…. even after the divorce I didn’t feel free…I had the mgtow mindset the moment my daughter was born….1995 , But the end of child support marked the point I really and truthfully felt the chains come off 2014….The title of my intro is evidence of this….

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

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