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What is their correlation with the site? Beyond the obvious F*k-ya! reaction at seeing one? I ask because strangely enough, and for quite some time, before I joined this site, I pictured myself the same. Albeit, it was more akin to being a decimated fighter free-floating through space. Battle torn and ripped to s~~~, but with pilot still-inside, on some kind of automated life support. Alright, I know it sounds pretty childish, but I’ve felt that way and pictured myself in that very fashion for quite some time, at least the last two years or so. And what more is it was a direct correlation to the situation I was in. Maybe as a means of trying to visualize my specific scenario as a whole. So imagine my surprise when I found this sight, and the symbolism within it. Mind. Blown. Any thoughts on the psychology behind the imagery?
Funny, isn't it? How women thrive on a mans time, attention and resources, while simultaneously telling him he isn't enough...
I have felt much the same way but being a pilot i went down the engine out & landing gear stuck routine.
This site is where the mgtow crew foamed the runway, raised the break nets and had medics waiting.
Hard rough landing but I made it. Hospital filled me with red pills.
Now I’m seeing my broken kite getting fixed up and more importantly upgraded.
Anonymous42I was sucked through a black hole! I lost all concept of the time-space-continuum! Others (blue pillers) are bound to the rules of physics and science, while I’m free to time travel! Those poor mortal blue-pillers, they’ll never truly live…
Men are basically taught from day to handle their own s~~~. Clean YOUR room, pay YOUR bills, take care of YOUR family. My old man never even came close to implying that he was my safety net. The men in your surroundings have enough problems of their own so when you take one in the tail pipe the collective voice is “Good luck buddy”. All the while they are all silently relieved and grateful it’s not them when they see you fighting a dead stick and the flames are licking inside of the canopy.
The desperate soldier fighting just to survive against insane odds.
John Wayne in the final 15 minutes of True Grit.
Inwardly I think in the times of the most difficult struggle a grown man looks at the circumstances and inwardly wish it was them riding the disintegrating aircraft. The amount of courage that it takes to face the potential of an honorable death seems to pale in comparison to the courage it takes to go home and face the same person day in and day out, that swore at an alter to love and honor you till death parts the both of you.
Perhaps there is a little of a desire for painful heroic death rather than the reality of a disintegrated marriage when we are socially programmed from day one that we are benefactors of our families and success or failure hinges upon our efforts. Any idea that this is true has long since gone from my reasoning.
I’m a land lubber and never enjoyed flying despite being a paratrooper for six years. But I did pull the rip cord on my particular flame out and landed safe and sound. I took my pack off that day and haven’t put it back on since.
"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.
My arms feel like springs and rubber bands that I can’t control hovering over the keyboard, two finger typing about my day up a ladder down and back up. Building a pole structure a shed. A weary helicopter to lift chainsaw, skill-saw, boards and more…Work finally picking up for me.
Tower I hope the campground is secure and thawed out..
Soldier-medic at my age 52years I am starting to wonder and guess how many more years I can do heavy construction..Trod on we must. On a hot day in Texas it can get brutal….
I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.
I was sucked through a black hole!
“The bulk beings are closing the tesseract” -TARS
“I have a cue that let’s you know when I’m joking if you prefer, You can use it to find your way back to the ship when I blow you out of the airlock”
-TARS
“Everyone good, plenty of slaves for my robot colony” -TARS
TARS is my mgtow motivator. He should be programmed to only listen to Men.
What is their correlation with the site? Beyond the obvious F*k-ya! reaction at seeing one? I ask because strangely enough, and for quite some time, before I joined this site, I pictured myself the same. Albeit, it was more akin to being a decimated fighter free-floating through space. Battle torn and ripped to s~~~, but with pilot still-inside, on some kind of automated life support. Alright, I know it sounds pretty childish, but I’ve felt that way and pictured myself in that very fashion for quite some time, at least the last two years or so. And what more is it was a direct correlation to the situation I was in. Maybe as a means of trying to visualize my specific scenario as a whole. So imagine my surprise when I found this site, and the symbolism within it. Mind. Blown. Any thoughts on the psychology behind the imagery?
I loved this comment the moment you left it. Delayed in responding but bookmarked it for later.
Until not too long ago, “MGTOW” had a false image and were largely perceived incorrectly by detractors as a “nothing but a bunch of” loser / broke / fat / bald / short / virgin / little-dicked / faceless / “bitter” / rejected / wimpy / social reject / basement-dwelling “males” with no options who “can’t get laid”. But nothing could be further from the truth.
Our first aim was to dispel this once and for all, and if you look around, you’ll notice MGTOW are worked out MEN who are / pumped / tall / educated / highly skilled and even immensely wealthy…. who have had more than just their share of “getting laid” and recognize the value of the modern vagina is $0.
This forces the other side to accept that THEY are not all that, and MEN JUST DON’T WANT THEM ANY MORE.
A very difficult reality for them to accept. In fact, it’s the LAST reality they are willing to accept.
MGTOW is rapidly shattering their illusions and the fighter jets show a position of “flying high”, “flying solo” and “flying away at MACH III” as ultimately freeing and highly positive, leading to enormous benefits. The sky is the limit , really.
Thrilled you picked up on the meaning …. but mostly, that it inspired thought.
THAT was the point. Why pursue women, when there are far more lofty pursuits.“Lofty” Meaning: High Flying, Sky-Scraping, Tall, Giant, Towering…
• Being broke is not exclusive to MGTOW.
• Being short is not exclusive to MGTOW.
• Being bald is not exclusive to MGTOW.
• Being a virgin is not exclusive to MGTOW.
• Being little-dicked is not exclusive to MGTOW.
• Being “bitter” is not exclusive to MGTOW.
• Being “shattered in divorce” is not exclusive to MGTOW.
• Being “rejected” is not exclusive to MGTOW because even PUAs will tell you they are “rejected” +95% of the time.None of the s~~~ they think MGTOW are is exclusive to MGTOW.
They can’t show (or prove) that MGTOW are any of that.What separates MGTOW from everyone else is the refusal to play into that game and pursue relationships, marriages or women for anything at all. We have more important pursuits that pay and reward men (themselves) in a way that none of that other s~~~ ever will. Beginning with saving men’s lives, futures and fortunes.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Well said Keymaster, great post!
Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.
What is their correlation with the site? Beyond the obvious F*k-ya! reaction at seeing one? I ask because strangely enough, and for quite some time, before I joined this site, I pictured myself the same. Albeit, it was more akin to being a decimated fighter free-floating through space. Battle torn and ripped to s~~~, but with pilot still-inside, on some kind of automated life support. Alright, I know it sounds pretty childish, but I’ve felt that way and pictured myself in that very fashion for quite some time, at least the last two years or so. And what more is it was a direct correlation to the situation I was in. Maybe as a means of trying to visualize my specific scenario as a whole. So imagine my surprise when I found this sight, and the symbolism within it. Mind. Blown. Any thoughts on the psychology behind the imagery?
Funny enough I have had my imagination run along the same line of some spacecraft floating in space half -damaged as a metaphor for me checking out of society altogether.
Funny enough I have had my imagination run along the same line of some spacecraft floating in space half -damaged as a metaphor for me checking out of society altogether.
Sorry for the late reply. Not only does KeyMaster make sense of it all, but I find it perplexing that the same analogy resonates mentally amongst more than one…. I swear it’s like our “life-support” was about to give out and the whole damned fleet shows up in your rear-view to reel you and give some much needed repair…I don’t know man… it just makes sense. Hell, can’t explain what the Sun is made of, doesn’t mean it doesn’t serve it’s purpose well. It may not be for us to question and just accept it for what it is, and how it benefits us.
Funny, isn't it? How women thrive on a mans time, attention and resources, while simultaneously telling him he isn't enough...
Go figure – I’m a fighter pilot. And I can say the world view you have to employ in order to survive in tactical flying is utterly unsentimental. You gather information about your environment, process it, make a decision, and act. Period. When s~~~ goes wrong, there are no excuses, no one cares how you felt about your effort, or how hard you try. You land, you evaluate your actions based on the outcomes you affected, and you wrack your brain to come up with ways to do it better the next time around. In other words, to be a good fighter pilot, you have to think like a MAN. There isn’t a single feminine value that has any application to the profession because those jets kill bull-s~~~ters. bull-s~~~ doesn’t change reality. it just stinks.
Very well said. And you’re a fighter pilot? That’s beyond awesome.
WELCOME!
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Yup. One of the last man-camps out there. Even though they allowed girls to join a while back, near none can hack it. Only served with one in 13 years – mean, man eating bitch. Fun to drink with though…she actually bought rounds.
Too bad I couldn’t apply that same rational calculus required at work to my personal life…and that’s the same for all of us, for sure. you guys are doing great things. I wish this had been around 10 years ago. Could have saved me a good bit of trouble.
Fascinating! Im really blown back. You know there are at least 3 pilots here. And more than a dozen military I am aware of.
you guys are doing great things. I wish this had been around 10 years ago. Could have saved me a good bit of trouble.
How about some MIG combat lessons for a trade?
You can be “Maverick”, and I’ll be “Goose”. Always wanted to do 4G inverted dive with a MIG and flip him the bird.
Butt seriously, I landed my first plane in the pilot seat not long ago. Santa Monica Airport. Practically soiled myself on the landing coming in close over the Getty Museum and the 401 freeway was directly below me. I wanted to be a commercial airline pilot as a kid. Didn’t work out that way, so have just taken it up privately. Real pleasure having you here.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.thank you for having me. flying is a beautiful thing. some of the best times i had were in a muni with a buddy of mine who inherited from his grampa…4500 feet, beautiful day, no particular destination in mind, radioing the regional airfields and playing them off one another, trying to scam free pizza and a ride to the local strip club on landing…would you believe i’ve never even flown a cessna? first time in a plane was when they strapped me down in florida. t-34. more or less no clue what i was doing. swallowed my own puke a half dozen times. got my ass chewed by the instructor. but didn’t fail, thank god.
you know, in the context of this site, the military piece is important. ever see jarhead? the depths to which women will stoop while a man is deployed – risking his life for her living – are insane. i’m about to check in, but i could start a thread on war stories…just to compile it all. it’ll horrify you. nothing like 6-18 months without supervision to bring out the best in a girl.
that being said, i’ve got a lot of other thoughts beyond being butt-hurt for letting myself get trapped in an ancient dysfunctional institution. but for now, i just want to soak up some new knowledge and see what it does for my world-view.
i dig the litter box…i could spend days in there…so easy to punch holes in bad ideas.
Well… I once happened upon this video. And was very saddended by the situation.
It profoundly affected our motivations to create this place. I was personally moved by it.I didn’t understand how ELLEN could go on TV and muster up the tears for the camera over one gay kid who was “outed on Facebook”, when +1000 soldiers swallow a bullet annually…. which will never be featured on her show.
Cheating military wives should be charged with the capital crime of treason. A soldier should not be wondering if his wife is f~~~ing her new man-friend. Cheating army wives hinder a thousand soldiers’ ability to get the job done. They are a plague of doubt in an otherwise healthy platoon. They are an act of treason that spreads at the speed of a hilarious internet video. They are a cancerous incarnation of greed and should be punished for it. Jumping on a dick while her husband is off prepared to die for her most basic rights and liberties is something she can help. Her freedom isn’t free, for f~~~ sake.
For lack of a faithful wife, the mission was lost.
For lack of a mission, the battle was lost.
For lack of a battle, the war was lost.
For lack of a war, the nation was lost.Unacceptable.
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On a lighter note. There is a real value in the Litter Box forum. Rather than completely discarding it, we use it for value. Glad you see the value in it.
And ….. I salute you most rigidly for your service.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Damn.
The second saddest thing about this video is that a feminist could watch it and not feel a goddamn thing. Let’s not forget that men have no emotion. Misandrist c~~~s.
"You can keep your soul, I don't want a cell-mate." - Them Crooked Vultures
i wrote a lengthy reply to this, but due to the recent outages is was lost. increased traffic volume causing the site to crash, though, is a pretty damn good problem to have, though.
there is a pretty standard playbook women follow when divorcing military men. step 1 – accuse the man of domestic violence and/or accuse them of molesting and/or abusing their children. this virtually guarantees his chain of command will issue an MPO (military protection order) which is the equivalent of restraining order. this is done first to protect the military, but second to protect the service member from further contact with, and thus the leveling of further charges by the women. the women gets to keep living in military housing, and free to f~~~ whatever life-raft she’s met, and the man gets moved into a barracks room. if he has a high rank, its a single room with a shared bathroom. if his rank is low, he’ll get a couple roommates to boot. step 2 wait for him to deploy and aggressively pursue the divorce with him in abstentia. unable to defend himself against allegations of violence, molestation, and abuse; and with the PTSD card dropped to boot if he’s deployed in the past, it virtually guarantees a lop-sided decision in her favor. step 3 move out of state with her life raft, making it very difficult and very expensive to alter any decisions made against him, and equally difficult and expensive for him to ever see his kids. moving out of state is not always a great move for civilian wives, but since the military ensures his pay is docked child support under threat of punative action, its a no-brain decision. This is especially damaging to our enlisted, who don’t make very much money. After all expenses are accounted for, these men often end up left with poverty wages in exchange for risking their lives repeatedly in the current ‘forever war’ our country is pursuing. And there’s added bonuses to all of this – infidelity is a court martial offense in the military. so until the divorce is finalized, if he has sex with anyone else, he could land himself a dishonorable discharge. the wives know this and are on the look out for it. also, if the marriage is 8 years or more, she rates half his pension. and she can also pursue his GI bill as part of the settlement, since it is a benefit that can be transferred to dependents. In short, there is a huge economic incentive for military wives to rake their men over the coals…so its not surprising so many of them choose this option because ‘its so hard’ to be alone while their husbands are deployed…I know men who have actually left the military at 19 years, so that he does NOT rate retirement, which requires 20 years of service, just to deny his ex a lifetime pension.
I can’t stop them from doing it, but I advise all of my young subordinates to avoid getting married…but the lure of being able to move out of the barracks, receive a housing allowance which at lower ranks is often equal to their base wage, plus subsistence bonuses per dependant all work to drive them into very early, very poorly thought out marriages. Couple this with most military bases being located in very low-end towns, filled with low-end women who are thoroughly familiar with everything i listed above, and young military men are effectively little more than soft-target prey populations for the women who take advantage of them.
And due to the PC pressures which enshrine the looting of men, none of this is really a serious topic of discussion when analysing policy changes to protect and/or improve the quality of life for our military members – the overwhelming majority of whom are male.
All food for thought.
As an addendum, and to get the thread back on topic, I recommend reading the biography “Boyd” – he’s considered one of the best fighter pilots to ever live and is responsible, more or less single handedly for turning air to air engagements into a hard engineering science.
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