Feminist Propaganda.

[LunaticReasonParticipant 78]

I recently came upon this on a female friend’s fb

The thing is, it’s patriarchy that says men are stupid and monolithic and unchanging and incapable. It’s patriarchy that says men have animalistic instincts and just can’t stop themselves from harassing and assaulting. It’s patriarchy that says men can only be attracted by certain qualities, can only have particular kinds of responses, can only experience the world in narrow ways. Feminism holds that men are capable of more – are more than that.

My response was.

Interesting sentiment however If I may argue or share my viewpoint. It assumes that that men are solely defined by the patriarchy as if we didn’t have any choice in how we behave and if we are defined as such than any criticism about the patriarchy is still a criticism about men. I could easily say that women are all these things and blame it on feminism but that doesn’t make it true, all it is doing is shaming men and saying that our only salvation is through feminism. Don’t get me wrong i’m all for equality and female empowerment but the statement itself bothers me because its blanket statement about all men and unless we join feminism that we are stupid, monolithic etc and it’s hard hearing those things and knowing women think this way towards us and that if we don’t agree with every sentiment that we are just another part of the “patriarchy”. That same animalistic behavior is also what drives men to fight, protect, and labor for you. Young boys are fed Ritalin and similar drugs on the daily because they exhibit these traits and men have a higher rate of suicide because of these kinda sentiments. The statement is not about helping men but convincing us to shift the social power dynamic.

I was wondering if you guys can help me add more to this. There is a tactic that I can’t put my finger on. I am trying to be as civil to her about it as I can but also wanting to point out the flaws in this statement to me is just propaganda aimed at white knights.

[RoyDalParticipant]

My view toward all social media is uncharitable at best. Dump FB, dump all social media. Save your time and money for something that is actually good for you.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Anonymous 42]

Of course they think we’re capable of more; coming from a brain of Ten Thousand maniacs every thing is capable of more! More insanity, more deception, more ruthlessness, more evil, and MUCH MUCH “MORE”!

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

RoyDal wrote:

My view toward all social media is uncharitable at best. Dump FB, dump all social media. Save your time and money for something that is actually good for you.

Agree

Pull the plug. Problem solved. You can’t reason with crazy.

[LunaticReasonParticipant 78]

I find Fb a good outlet for my thoughts and its how I keep in touch with friends.

here is response from her other female friend:

It looks to me that you view feminism as a matriarchy and are unable to view a world without someone oppressing someone else based off gender.

For that I feel sorry for you, but again I don’t think you understand this at all or care too so I don’t feel like arguing.

My response to her.

No I see them as two entirely different things but men will always be seen as part of the patriarchy whether we have any power or not unless there is a clear shift towards the matriarchy and even so does it really stop that viewpoint about all male behavior? I’m not trying to argue with anyone you may disagree but those are merely my views on the statement itself not about feminism. Oh and feeling sorry for me is a bit condescending but I won’t take offense.

[RoyDalParticipant]

LunaticReason wrote:

I find Fb a good outlet for my thoughts and its how I keep in touch with friends.

I sense that you are using it for far more than that; to wit, arguing with feminists. This is an argument you will never win. Therefore, what reward do you get from bothering with it?

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

The point you are trying to make about feminists asserting that men are de facto “slaves” to their nature and environment sounds like pure projection of the part of women.

The reality is that a shift in the power dynamic will not change the scope of a man’s labor one wit.

Men will still engage in the high risk jobs, be the primary casualties in war, be expected to be the primary bread winner, and risk our lives for others while women stand by and do nothing.

Men are not slaves to their nature. They are slaves to the demands that women have placed upon them to merit any social value in western society.

Edit:

The entire argument about the patriarchy is a straw man (I believe). This argument (Patriarchy) in on the table to cover for the inherent inequality that is found in women. They are less capable than men in many ways. Feminists can’t acknowledge this. The only way women aren’t as capable as men is because “the man” is keeping them down and has nothing to do with sexual dimorphism.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

Soldier-Medic wrote:

Men are not slaves to their nature. They are slaves to the demands that women have placed upon them to merit any social value in western society.

Could you elaborate on the part about meriting any social value? Do you mean that society only values men in terms of how well they’ve fulfilled their “duty” to women?

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

Women’s one unequivocal social value is their ability to give birth to babies.

Men, in short, are human doings and not human beings.

Men have been evaluated by women and other men by what they have accomplished. An example would be homeless women VS. homeless men. Women are valued more and this is reflected in the fact that the number of homeless men far outstrip the homeless women. Also suicide rates. Rape rates in prisons. Etc.

We are not literal slaves but if we are to be valued by women and recognized on both a social and political level, then we are valued by what we have accomplished. If we want to be valued by these standards, then we had better get our asses on the plantation and get comfortable with the shackle and whip.

Edit:

If there is any truth to the saying that “A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle” then why the conversation about the patriarchy? Either they are just as capable as men, and men are keeping them down. Or they are not just as capable as men, then an excuse has to be fabricated. Through this excuse “Social Justice” is achieved through tax dollars, quotas, laws, and social shaming.

Do you mean that society only values men in terms of how well they’ve fulfilled their “duty” to women?

In short the answer is yes. Either directly or indirectly, the social pressure to earn more, work harder, pay taxes is overwhelmingly for the benefit of women.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[felixParticipant 406]

LunaticReason wrote:

Feminism holds that men are capable of more – are more than that.

ALL HALE!!! FEMINISM WILL SAVE US ALL !!!

more throttle ..... less brakes.....

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

Add this: Your theory sounded better in its original Russian.

I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[HitmanParticipant]

soldier medic unraveled that perfectly imo..where is this patriarchy ? if men are so stupid and animalistic then HOW could they RUN the ” patriarchy ” ? feminist drivel !

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

Soldier-Medic wrote:

Men, in short, are human doings and not human beings.

That’s pretty damn profound right there.

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[KeymasterKeymaster]

You;’re attempting to engage in an intellectual argument / discussion with a FEMINIST?

There is only one correct response: “lol i don’t speak to feminists”
Don’t even capitalize or punctuate it. That would be giving her too much credit.

“Feminism holds that men are capable of more “. Just look at that garbage. “FEMINISM holds that MEN are capable of more?” No. If that were true it would be called “MENINISM”. The point of feminism is to hold that WOMEN are capable of more and they are FAR from convincing anyone.

Feminism says women are f~~~ing toddlers who aren’t even capable of giving consent. It’s right there in print.

She is suckering you into her bulls~~~ frame. Just look at that bulls~~~ poster. It says MEN are required to be more responsible than women and effectively — and legally — turns women into women into f~~~ing toddlers. As far as the law is concerned, a woman can’t even give consent(!!) So who would ever listen to her opinion? “Feminism holds that men are capable of more”………. and women are capable of NOTHING. They can’t even make up[ their own minds. Then post that on Facebook and there is no argument or debate.

“Interesting sentiment”? It’s not interesting at all,. It’s transparent garbage.

however If I may argue or share my viewpoint. You don’t need a woman’s permission for ANYTHING.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[OldBillParticipant]

LunaticReason wrote:

I find Fb a good outlet for my thoughts and its how I keep in touch with friends.

That outlet leads to a septic tank, you’re sharing your thoughts with idiots, and people who use the term “The Patriarchy” seriously aren’t your friends.

Facebook is for children, women, and other simpletons. Drop it and use the time you gain to better your life instead.

In the time it took you to type your half-baked response to her “cut & paste” idiocy, you could have done a set of push-ups, wrote that day’s entry in your personal journal, finished a household chore, taken a walk outside, read a portion of a good book, worked on a hobby, or engaged in any one of hundreds of other acts of self improvement.

Instead you chose to wallow in the mud with the idiots.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[LunaticReasonParticipant 78]

Soldier-Medic wrote:

The point you are trying to make about feminists asserting that men are de facto “slaves” to their nature and environment sounds like pure projection of the part of women.
The reality is that a shift in the power dynamic will not change the scope of a man’s labor one wit.
Men will still engage in the high risk jobs, be the primary casualties in war, be expected to be the primary bread winner, and risk our lives for others while women stand by and do nothing.
Men are not slaves to their nature. They are slaves to the demands that women have placed upon them to merit any social value in western society.
Edit:
The entire argument about the patriarchy is a straw man (I believe). This argument (Patriarchy) in on the table to cover for the inherent inequality that is found in women. They are less capable than men in many ways. Feminists can’t acknowledge this. The only way women aren’t as capable as men is because “the man” is keeping them down and has nothing to do with sexual dimorphism.

True but not something I wanted to bring to the table of feminists in terms of explaining dimorphism being the fault of inequality. What I was pointing out was the statement she had posted had shifted the blame for criticism to the subject being criticized but also was trying to shame men into adopting feminism as their salvation particularly to White Knights. It gives the idea that so long that there is a patriarchy that men will always be at fault for these negative traits we have but what is the patriarchy really? its the idea that men hold the primary power and so long as women think we have power regardless if we have it or not women are always going to see us in a negative view and label us the Patriarchy unless we completely submit to them.. I hate that its a blanket statement about all men as if individuals aren’t responsible for themselves for their behaviors good or bad.

I used to buy into feminism as a movement for equality but when I read and hear these kinds of statements I know its not but other people can’t see through the smoke, they think this statement is about equality but its really just attacking men in favor of women. I still believe in equality, I do believe there are some things that are unfair to women just not in the Western world. Little gets raped in a third world country, i’ll fight for her rights, bitch in the West complains about some trivial s~~~ and cries patriarchy f~~~ that noise deluded self absorbed bitch. Oh and I say equality I mean evening the playing field for everyone not that women are equal to men. We all have our strengths and faults. The difference is that feminism wants you to believe that they have no faults and that its men keeping them down.

[LunaticReasonParticipant 78]

I know talking to a feminist is pointless but I was hoping to at least reach out to her male friends she is trying to brainwash. The things is that I don’t think she meant any malice just that she is a female is brainwashed by this feminist dogma. She thinks this statement empowers women and that its about equality but she hasn’t looked at critically and why would she when its all about girl power but if you take away the words feminism and patriarchy and then examine the statement, its just a cleverly disguised form of propaganda.

As for FB being my outlets, I do more than just argue with feminists and its not something I use it for really. Its not an argument but a statement and I don’t give a f~~~ if they disagree with it or not because there is nothing to argue since I’m not bashing feminism, i’m bashing the statement as a manipulative tool

I responded because It really bothered me that they could’t see this for themselves and I was worrying other men reading this would get brainwashed. As a mgtow I had to not give a s~~~ about female opinion, the old me would have been afraid to rock the boat. .

[OldBillParticipant]

LunaticReason wrote:

If you truly didn’t give a s~~~, you wouldn’t have responded.

Responding to her post meant you believed her opinion was worthy of debate.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[AngularParticipant 114]

My views of social media is that is only a negative outcome,

You tell the truth and then information on you is out there that they can use against you later on and try to ruin your social standing by contacting your employer.
You lie and agree with them because they are a cult and will not take your side against their best interests, and they will never stop believing their own victimizing narrative because its how they maintain power.

and it goes against going ghost so its pointless also social media is for people to repeat themselves over and over.

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