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Just came back from church service since I haven’t been in months and I just had to express myself about what I saw. I’m not sure about them religion of most mgtow but I understand a lot are atheists which is fine to each his own. We’re each going our own way. I do believe in God however but I’m also a mgtow who swallowed the red pill pretty dang early in my life after witnessing a lot of feminist hypocrisy within the church as I grew up. I’m not her to convert anybody but offer my two cents. The pastor today was a female who was talking about yep you guessed it marriage and with my new red pill knowledge I laughed my head of internally at all her Christian marriage advice because it was sooooo clear that she was teaching the congregation to not only embrace marriage where the wife is happy and secure but also that a Christian marriage should be such that both parties SHOULD NEVER LEAVE IF THEY TRULY LOVE GOD. This was insane to me but made so much such in context of the female mind. Nowhere in the bible does it say for couples to do this. In fact the bible provides conditions for post divorce situations and doesn’t condemn divorce if it’s for the right reasons depending on person to person. But in the context of the female mind she stated that she was soooo happy and comfortable with her husband when he stated he would never leave her despite her frequent narcissist and selfish behavior. In her mind this was some sort of spiritual affirmation but I knew deep down that biologically she was happy her resources were never going away because she found herself a white knight whom she eventually outlived. He died of a heart attack years ago.
I realized a lot of women in the church are told then need to find themselves a man who will promise to sacrifice their souls for them or in other words “never leave” because that’s what God wants for them. This is so messed up to me because that’s what biology wants. Their mentality and nature demands that they secure resources in the form of emotional physical and financial support and when they meet a simp who puts that limit on himself to never leave her because she has convinced him he’s not a real Christian man if he doesn’t they think they’ve hit the jackpot and have been blessed by God. In reality they have simply reaffirmed in their mind that they have secured a lifetime partner who will carry out their biological imperative and the church keeps promoting this. It makes me sick. Christian women bother me the most because they dress their feminist mentality in spiritual words and convince rational Christian men into buying their bs. This is why the church nationwide does not know how to handle the high divorce rate in so called Christian marriages. The men are unhappy but are shamed when they think of duvirce because they have been tricked into locking themselves down to crazy religious feminist who is making them miserable.
For mgtow seeking higher truth through monotheistic religion, I advice caution. Feminism is in the church. One would think the women in the church are traditional. Nothing could be further from the truth. They look at their secular peers and play compare and contrast. They keep preaching that men need to ignore porn and focus on finding gods partner for them. They are ignorant to the fact that not everyone in the church desires to be married because not only is marriage a modern day scam it’s that the bible give marriage advice based on 1000 year old cultural traditions and can’t just be applied today just like that. There has to be adjustments. Women back in Jesus day were waaaaaaayy different from the crazies we see today.
Also Im Nigerian. Nigeria is a very religious country though the government is corrupt. I was also at a traditional baby dedication party today and one of the Nigerian women who was MCing the event said that it was gods design for men to chase after women and find them a women while the women close their stinky vagina guarding legs and select a proper mate. Mind you this woman is in her 40s and has never been married and is super feminist and I laughed my head off once again. No wonder she’s single she expects special treatmEnt from men like a queen and can’t secure a man. She claims men are intimidated by her but I see through the bs. They just can’t stand her crap. This goes to show you feminism truly is within nearly every culture. Not just the West. Not just UK. It’s in West Africa and it’s spreading, religion being on of its most powerful tools.
I’ll end with this. Have any of you guys encountered radical feminism being cleverly disguised as something else, religion or otherwise? How did you see past the lies and what was your takeaway from that encounter. I’m interested in your thoughts and ideas.
I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.
The Church
Ephesians 5:22-33
22 Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything. 25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26 to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, 27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 After all, no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it, just as Christ does the church– 30 for we are members of his body. 31 “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.” 32 This is a profound mystery–but I am talking about Christ and the church. 33 However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.Our Reality
One in 25 fathers is not biological parenthttp://www.theguardian.com/society/2005/aug/11/childrensservices.uknews
The Church
Proverbs 31:10
10 A wife of noble character who can find? She is worth far more than rubies.Our Reality
NAWALTWhen the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan
Fermat – Thank you for the post and sorry to hear your current situation.
Im not religious, however my wife pretends to herself she is. I believe men are the natural leaders in any household / society.
What my wife and a lot of her female peers do is to say on one hand “ok I’m a Christian” and get that spiritual support she needs but then looks over her shoulder at her feminist programmed friends and still acts like a disrespectful, entitled t~~~.
I discuss the bible with her (I know most of it from Sunday school as a child) and point out “women submit to your husbands as you would The Lord”. She protests and generally has a tantrum as she realises her “I’m a Christian” badge is falling off in favour of being an entitled, disrespectful t~~~.
I don’t blame her in the slightest. Women don’t really have a stable or capable mind and just don’t know what they want. She’s been brainwashed by feminist bulls~~~ all her life so this is reality for her, until I step in.
Perhaps we need to start handing out Red Pills to women, but make them pink to appeal to the feminists, GIRL POWER!
I could go on about said Christianity and feminism, and what is going on. Trends going on is that Jesus isn’t Lord, but your best friend and “have a personal relationship with Jesus” replaces “become a student of Jesus and grow up”. The worship songs are one step away from romance. Never say “Lord”, never speak of men being men. Never speak these, but offer warm and fluffy and the men leave of course, for that and dozens of other things. I am not going to get too much into this at all, but I can say, I see MGTOW in the way of the single man, the monastic and monk, and not giving in to lower desires, and so on. I see things like “I will allow nothing to have mastery over me”, and more.
What you have now going on is women tend to be more religious then men, so preaching panders to this, so manly aspects are thrown out completely. I will say the idea of marriage is to maintain a state that works, not to just stay together. But, anyhow, what do I know?
That is just my take on it. I am too busy to getting logs out of my own eye to harp on what else is happening. I am just glad it isn’t my responsibility. Getting myself to grow up is.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
The main thing is you don’t want to go to a church that takes any money from the government, if you do they will not say anything thats politically incorrect. My church on the other hand is waaayy different lol. My preacher hammers the women so hard to be submissive and also beats the men in the head to wear the pants and stay in control of everything…its pretty interesting to watch. You can listen to everything we do online, heres a interesting sermon on the subject of the spirit of jezebel he did. If you have a hour to spare its refreshing to hear a preacher that doesn’t pander to women
This verse sounds like a taste of things to come.
“And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.” -Isaiah 4:1-
Isaiah 4:1
RE: That verse, you sent me off to bone up on its meaning and implications. Here’s what I found.
The short version is, they were having a man shortage (much like these days). They thought having children was both a blessing and necessary (totally unlike these days). Thus, they bargained themselves into polygamous marriages, “we’ll pull our weight and then some, and all you have to do is knock us up and call us your wives.
Hoo boy! I can just see the feminazis marching in the streets if that should happen today.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
Feminism is in the church.
Feminism is EVERYWHERE. Just as gynocentric bs.
She claims men are intimidated by her
We all know what that means: she’s an unbearable bitch.
She protests and generally has a tantrum as she realises her “I’m a Christian” badge is falling off in favour of being an entitled, disrespectful t~~~.
A lot of women like to pretend that they’re nice and caring, still doesn’t make it true. They stick little badges to themselves, so that they can appear as decent human beings. But once you get to know them, you realize that most of these badges don’t mean jack.
It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.
Her: (house is clean) “I cleaned the house!”
Her:(mortgage and all bills are paid) “We’ve been blessed!”
"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
Anonymous42Feminism= Me Me Me! (gynocentric)
Church= Law/feminism/contorted (Me Me Me, gynocentric!)
MGTOW= FTW! LTMFB!
Women have been running off with snakes since the garden of Eden, getting the guy (blue pill Adam) kicked out of his paradise and forced by the harsh laws of nature to create, improvise, and overcome. Here we are eons later, and she’s still running off with snakes, and getting you tossed out of your own home, except now she gets to keep your home to herself, and make you pay the bills! (while you’re homeless)
The Church is just as gynocentric as society! Men have become mules for the hive by marriage licenses granted through the church!
Church and state being commingled with the law has men like myself disgusted with the idea of attending an institution that feeds men to the hive for spiritual, financial, emotional, and physical DESTRUCTION!
Where’s the separation of church and state if a pastor can be threatened with fines and imprisonment for not marrying a gay couple? especially when his doctrine forbids such activities! Try jamming that down a Mullah’s throat! Feminism has destroyed the Church! Now they have their Fascists feminazi aspirations set on the rest of humanity!
Good luck converting the rest of the world to your lunacy Mizz Feminism, you’ll be standing in ashes before you ever get there!
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