Female Blogger Article on MGTOW

[RealityBitesParticipant 2198]

from: https://www.theconservativenut.com/news/2017/6/15/opinion-mgtow
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Recently, a friend of mine went through a divorce. After being with his wife for over eight years, she decided, very suddenly, to leave him. Like a lot of divorces, the relationship did not end amicably. To make matters worse, there is a financial dispute. They are currently in the process of deciding future ownership of a house.

To get his mind off the divorce, my friend and I went for a fishing trip. As we sat in the boat with not so much as a bite on our lines, he talked about a movement he had discovered on Reddit: MGTOW. Though I was certain I had heard of this acronym in some anti-feminist circles, I didn’t know what it was until I did a quick Google search on my phone.

MGTOW or “Men Going Their Own Way” is a relatively new online community which defines itself, according to its website mgtow.com as “…a statement of self-ownership, where the modern man preserves and protects his own sovereignty above all else. It is the manifestation of one word: “No”. Ejecting silly preconceptions and cultural definitions of what a “man” is. Looking to no one else for social cues. Refusing to bow, serve and kneel for the opportunity to be treated like a disposable utility. And, living according to his own best interests in a world which would rather he didn’t.”

I was intrigued. By this definition, it’s a philosophy of empowerment for men, a stark contrast to the media’s near obsession with women’s issues and feminism which all too often leads to the outright demonization of men and masculinity.

“This is wonderful,” I thought. It is refreshing to see a rise in awareness and support for men’s issues. Being responsible for the greatest inventions in human history, performing the most dangerous jobs in the workplace and serving as a majority in the armed forces, it seems like the least we as a society can do. However, after a little more research, particularly in the “Quotes” and “Posters” section of MGTOW.com, I quickly realized there was more to this movement than their definition claimed.

“By the age of twelve at the latest, most women have decided to become prostitutes. Or, to put it another way they have planned a future for themselves which consists of choosing a man and letting him do all the work.” -Estheryah Vilar

“How in the HELL could a man enjoy being awakened at 6:30 AM by an alarm clock, leap out of bed, dress, force-feed, s~~~, p~~~, brush his teeth and hair and fight traffic to get to a place where essentially you made lots of money for somebody else and were expected to be grateful for the opportunity to do so?” -Charles Bukowski

I would like to first point out that I found these posts on MGTOW.com. This was not from some supporter’s blog or a random guy’s social media page. It is on the official site for MGTOW. After seeing this blatant bitterness and outright hatred toward women, I was kind of shocked and rather repulsed. How could a grown man support or subscribe to such beliefs? After re-posting two of the images above, others had a similar reaction. However, a couple MGTOW supporters came forward and I found their insight to be even more revealing.

One man’s support for MGTOW centered around his opposition to marriage. He rejected the institution entirely, even going so far as to compare it to slavery (outspoken feminist Julie Bindel came to mind). At best, from his perspective, it was a “bad business decision.” He is not alone in this belief. Marriage is heavily criticized on the MGTOW website. The basis for this criticism seems to come from the idea that a woman is only looking to marry in order to elevate her economic status. This and taking half of her husband’s earnings once the union has been terminated. In other words: women are gold diggers.

I understand how this bitterness can be formed. After all, men are at a distinct disadvantage in divorce courts as the law continues to favor women, particularly in child custody cases. We see this all too often: A good man, having worked hard for his entire adult life to provide for his family gets hit with a divorce. He suddenly finds himself living with the help of his parents or friends in addition to only seeing his kids a fraction of the time.

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(And….here comes the inevitable PIVOT point of the Article and deflection of blame!)
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While not every divorce is the same, the anger that results from this common scenario is understandable. With that resentment and anger, the appeal of something like MGTOW is quite strong. However, blaming an entire gender or an institution for one’s poor relationship choices is hardly justified.

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(See? It’s OUR fault that we didn’t see through the charade the woman was making before we married her!
It certainly isn’t the Woman’s Fault! Just the Man’s for being too stupid in “choosing so poorly!”)
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Marriage, at least in western society, has always been much more than just a financial matter. To view it solely in this manner is to ignore its proven value of social and economic stability. It discards the religious aspect for people of faith, but more significantly, there is no consideration with respect to raising children. The poverty alone single parenthood has caused is undeniable. But of course having children would also be “bad business” when viewed through this lens.
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(Here comes the peanut butter…laying it on really thick! The Rationalization of why marriage is REALLY Good! Even though it is 70% or more of the time the WOMAN’s fault for destroying the marriage!
And via the Court’s destroying the man financially and destroying the children emotionally!)
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And no one under American law is subject to forced marriage. It’s entirely socially acceptable for either sex to remain single and independent– a principle feminism has supported for decades.

In doing more research, the parallels between MGTOW and modern day feminism became more and more apparent. Both movements have clear disdain for traditional gender roles. Both vilify the opposite sex while claiming to help their own. There is also an element of fear-mongering. MGTOW demonizes women as greedy, manipulative and useless. Feminism vilifies men as sexist oppressors if not outright sexual predators. Both movements foster suspicion and distrust.
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(And the inevitable: NWALT!) (“Not all foxes in the hen house will kill hens!”…)
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” And according to MGTOW, only “real men” go their own way. Men who choose to marry are internalized misogyny. who deviate from the feminist narrative, accusing them of “ feminists have attacked women Any reasonable person knows that not all women are out to steal men’s earnings and obviously not all men are misogynistic or abusive. While both sexes have their shortcomings, these movements demonizing them does nothing to benefit society. It doesn’t do their targeted audiences any favors either. We’ve seen countless instances where merely “chumps.” The message is the same: support and agree with our way of thinking or you’re a sellout.

It is my personal belief that MGTOW is a direct result of feminist overreach. As media, academia and public figures continue to degrade men and masculinity, it is no wonder that this backlash is now taking place. While MGTOW is nowhere near as visible as feminism, fighting an ideology with essentially the same ideology is not only purposeless but continues to fracture and already divided society.
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(In essence the female Blogger attacks MGTOW with an NWALT argument (perhaps attempting to camoflauge her own Hypergamaous desires?)

(Divorce courts and law always favor the lower earning spouse. Women almost exclusively practice Hypergamy and so by default are in this advantageous position when they inevitably petition for divorce.
The children are weaponized…and the man is forced to turn over at least 50% of all community property plus child support in which there is ZERO oversight on how the Child Support Money is spent. AND the Man (not the woman!) has to pay the Taxes on the Child Support Money! So the Woman gets a nice chunk of TAX FREE money that she can spend any way she wants to!

Marriage is a SCAM!)

[trader1913Participant 1577]

RealityBites wrote:

Marriage is a SCAM!)

TL;DR

I dont care what a woman says unless she is my doctor or dentist.

[RealityBitesParticipant 2198]

trader1913 wrote:

RealityBites wrote:

Marriage is a SCAM!)

TL;DR

I dont care what a woman says unless she is my doctor or dentist.

Trader based upon my experience dump any FEMALE doctor and get a MALE doctor. Statistically you will get better medical treatment and more direct communication on stuff that you really need to know! Female Doctors play a lot of bulls~~~ games, and frequently aren’t very good because they didn’t get into medical schools based on grades alone: but through Affirmative Action because they were female.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

Word of mouth, men are going their own way because they’re hearing about it at the water cooler. Now that feminists are advertising MGTOW.com it will be short time before, like the word mangina catching on, going your own way will be the most popular way to deal with women.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

Applied the golden rule, even if this isn’t a feminist speech, but a tradcon argument – it can still work since it’s written by a woman talking about men.

Search text.
Find the first “BUT”.

but more significantly, there is no consideration with respect to raising children. The poverty alone single parenthood has caused is undeniable.

She wants a man being provider, she’s afraid to be a single mother.

SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

40% of whites and 80% of black children are born out of wedlock. It’s not men that left the family. We just made our way out the door and are never coming back.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[StormtrooperParticipant 1080]

lol I enjoy reading stuff like this just because it means we are making a heading and actually getting word out on Mgtow.

And honestly I don’t care what this crazy chick thinks, you didn’t even attack any of the hypocrisy feminism has been force feeding us for decades, just how Mgtow is wrong and unjust, if your gonna make an argument, show pros and cons from both sides (this is impossible p because feminism has no pros.)

I just hear another woman whining because men have caught on to how bad marriage is right now, and have opted out for something much more fulfilling.

Having a girlfriend is like owning a gun, the longer your around it, the more you want to shoot it.

[RealityBitesParticipant 2198]

MGTOW isn’t about hate. It’s just recognizing a snake for what it is. It isn’t about blaming a snake for being a snake. It is what it is.

Once recognized and accepted…it’s just about leaving a very crooked game in which a man always loses and not playing, but going his own way.

That is it. That is all MGTOW is.

[Anonymous 12]

To get his mind off the divorce, my friend and I went for a fishing trip.

No woman ever took a dude on a fishing trip. And listened to what he had to say.
Liar.

EEEEZY.
Try again Ho.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Typical. Claims to try to “understand MGTOW” but makes no effort to do so. Then claims she actually does somehow “understand MGTOW”, but doesn’t. Then starts on the shaming and blaming while completely ignoring her own responsibility.

F~~~ this bitch.

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

“After seeing this blatant bitterness and outright hatred toward women” – what you are seeing is termed as “red pill rage”. It is the reaction that many men go through after finally realizing certain truths about our society and gender relations. These men become bitter and angry, as they finally see things for how they really are, the betrayal and backstabbing they endured, whereas previously they’ve been walking around with wool pulled over their eyes. Some men take longer than others to recover from the rage, many need an outlet where to safely express themselves without shaming or backlash (mgtow websites) and gain experience and wisdom from other men with similar experiences. Once a man recovers from the red pill rage he is able to – “Looking to no one else for social cues. Refusing to bow, serve and kneel for the opportunity to be treated like a disposable utility. And, living according to his own best interests in a world which would rather he didn’t.””

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

Females will often try to shame men who are MGTOW.

Then they will attempt to boycott MGTOW and finally outlaw MGTOW.

I say ignore them.

[BrujahParticipant 579]

The last paragraph about MGTOW being the result of feminism overstepping their boundaries is what I like to see. Some self awareness is good. Like being witness to the gallows that they will hang from when there are no more men to fuel the modern economy.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Brujah wrote:

The last paragraph about MGTOW being the result of feminism overstepping their boundaries is what I like to see. Some self awareness is good.

But what is SHE going to do about it? That’s what I want to see.

Women have f~~~ed everything up for themselves. It is not our responsibility to unf~~~ it for them.

[IRuleMeParticipant]

RealityBites wrote:

MGTOW isn’t about hate. It’s just recognizing a snake for what it is. It isn’t about blaming a snake for being a snake. It is what it is.

Once recognized and accepted…it’s just about leaving a very crooked game in which a man always loses and not playing, but going his own way.

That is it. That is all MGTOW is.

If someone on here wants to hate women, that’s their prerogative. Hence MGTOW baby! 😀

See? We can’t even have our own space, our own forum without f~~~ing women trying to invade that s~~~. “why? why? why? why this? why that? why are you doing? why are you going? why? why? why?” Go away! Always a need to peek over the fence and see what the commotion is. I don’t go around checking in on feminists and tradcons.

[The DealParticipant 236]

We don’t just blame women. We also blame some men too. Manginas and white knights. Without them there would no need to fear women.

I had decided marriage was a giant s~~~ sandwich long before I had heard of MGTOW. There have been plenty of men in my life who have extolled the joys of marriage. Boy were they deluded.

That’s great that she quoted The Manipulated Man. One of the most epic red pill reads.

[TicParticipant 4329]

RealityBites wrote:

(Here comes the peanut butter…laying it on really thick! The

Only a bitch writes like this. In the old days, she wouldn’t get a job writing ads for penis pills in the back of Hustler. Now, the internet is riddled with these “journalists.”

God bless peace and freedom.

[IRuleMeParticipant]

The Deal wrote:

We don’t just blame women. We also blame some men too. Manginas and white knights. Without them there would no need to fear women.

I had decided marriage was a giant s~~~ sandwich long before I had heard of MGTOW. There have been plenty of men in my life who have extolled the joys of marriage. Boy were they deluded.

That’s great that she quoted The Manipulated Man. One of the most epic red pill reads.

Agreed. I watched my dad, and two of his brothers get divorced within the span of 3 years. Everywhere I looked all my friends had parents splitting up. Marriage is a s~~~ sammich.

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

The trollop does not understand mgtow because if she did, she wouldn’t have compared our philosophy to feminism.
Mgtow is not backed by the government, the state nor the media.
Mgtow doesn’t have classes on college campuses nor does it encourage men and boys to hate their mothers. The trollop has predictably missed the target!

[The DealParticipant 236]

RealityBites wrote:

does nothing to benefit society.

I think most of us have given up on society. MGTOW is a lifeboat where we can share stories, trade ideas about how to have a good life, and realize that we’re not alone on an ocean that doesn’t care about us.

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