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    Tim Patten
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    Members feedback has been put into an article. this is a DRAFT, and not nearly lean for publishing… but I need your feedback.

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    Bachelorhood, Men Going Their Own Way is saving Lives

    Modern romance, love and marriage is failing with one million American couples each year and divorced men are redeeming their life’s purpose advancing themselves, friends and society along with large communities of men who have turned to boycott the glamorization of love and marriage. Bachelorhood; Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW) is rebuilding esteem and saving men’s lives.

    For eons society and women have been rallying support for the institution of marital bliss. It was claimed that unmarried men die earlier than married men; encouraging the glorification of matrimonial sanctimony. Along with this marriage happiness label, another stereotype emerged from Victorian times, that something must be ‘wrong’ with any man who is not married. Men have frightened and urged men into wasting hard earned dollars on a façade; the happy nuptials and business of marriage. Social history from America’s family farming background has been compelling men headlong into coupling immediately after high school or college; an illusion that must be changed to meet the current dangers in the expectation of taking care of a wife forever.

    That was until a modern counter culture phenomenon has rebuked these old school values and millions are discovering the nuptial nuclear bomb that might explode when young couples become entangled. Men are swearing off matrimony’s unhealthy consequences Men are Going Their Own Way (MGTOW). It appears that Japan’s Herbivore Men, MGTOW and Red Pill awareness is the new education that every young man needs in order to be successful in the modern world. A recent survey revealed details and benefits of this new bachelorhood.

    Men are Being Saved
    One of the post monitors at a popular MGTOW website said, “In 2015 there have been six private emails from members telling sharing that MGTOW discovery saved their lives”. Another moderator stated “MGTOW saves thousands of lives. Thousands of them.” Another member wrote: First, I do not believe MGTOW saved my life. I would say it saved my sanity and for me, the sky has been the limit. After finding out I am not alone has made me feel free.

    How do men Discover MGTOW
    Men often turn to google searches for information about divorce to learn from other men who experienced the pain from losing a wife, children and properties. They stumble upon forums and videos on MGTOW and find comradery, a compassioned ear and helpful lessons centered on their recent divorced mate’s tyranny. Most hear about the movie Divorce Corporation that demonstrates the devastation men wrestle with. MGTOW remain anonymous, but share their often common experience:

    Anonymous Share MGTOW 01
    At 51 years old and fresh out of a divorce. Divorce made me realize that I have never been in a reciprocal relationship. By that I mean that I have never been with anyone that treated me as well as I treated them. I was always telling them how much I loved them. And my reward for treating someone well was always either being lied to or cheated on. Most importantly, my energy was drained out of me.

    Now I view relationships as an exchange of energy. People with positive energy have a place in my life, people with negative energy, or people that steal other people’s energy, are dismissed. My life is so much more positive and rewarding since making this decision. MGTOW gave me the understanding that my life is just that, MY LIFE. Not being responsible for someone else’s daily happiness gives me the freedom to focus on my own level of happiness and contentment. As a result I am a better father, better friend, and overall a better person.

    Anonymous Share MGTOW 02
    The divorce law is corrupt and rules the land. When an institution of government turns “broken arrow”, such as it did here by self-destruction, the only option is to take measures necessary (constitutional equivalent to GO YOUR OWN WAY). The future for men and marriage is much more grim than it is now as so many of the gynocentric laws haven’t had time to ferment and fester, the ones we do see fermented and festering has caused a stampede of men fleeing women, marriage, and the gauntlet of gynocentric binding laws.

    Some MGTOW start Self-Discovery:
    For many men, they have an epiphany and discover the “Red Pill” termed from the film The Matrix meaning that person is presented with a painful truth of reality that penetrates through the blissful ignorance or an illusion they have been living each day. Red Pill moments are an awakening to the fantasies of love and marriage and some men are more visionary, catching glimpses of the Red Pill in younger years.

    Anonymous Share MGTOW 03
    When I discovered MGTOW it was the slap in the face I needed to snap me out of my enforced Disney funded stupor. I was to be Prince Charming to my Cinderella, It was hard and I was very close to ending my life… very close. One day the sound of children laughing and playing in a school yard saved me for that day. MGTOW understanding gave me the rest of my ‘bonus time’ here on earth.

    Anonymous Share MGTOW 04
    I’m a young guy, 23 years old, and I’ve had a red pill type of mindset for a while because I grew up around examples of how marriage isn’t the wonderful experience it’s proponents claim it is. I watched how my mom treated my dad (no respect and hypocrisy). My parents raised me in a church, where I got to watch a bunch of tired and pathetic looking husbands follow their wives around, almost lifeless. When I spoke to these men about my hobbies, they would get excited and I could tell that they miss the freedom of being single, the time when they were actually able to live their lives and pursue their happiness. To top it all off, the sermons in church were often about how the man needs to do better. In my extended family, my uncle never married and he has always been one of the more interesting and happiest guys I know. Despite being single, he doesn’t fit the “loser” stereotype. He is a very hard worker, seems to have all the money he’d ever need, and gets to spend lots of time with his friends (those people the married guys aren’t allowed to have).

    When I graduated, I have to admit, I was a little confused. Before finding the MGTOW community, I didn’t really know what to think of myself. I never forgot my early memories, but the school system had me kind of confused. They put that “real man” garbage in my head and I started to doubt myself a little bit. Last summer, I finally found the manosphere and soon enough MGTOW. Things finally clicked. All the observations I made in the past made more sense; the pieces of the puzzle finally came together. Maybe MGTOW hasn’t “saved my life” since I was skeptical of marriage early on, but it has definitely made it better. I don’t have to doubt myself about this anymore.

    Is MGTOW a Healthy Lifestyle?
    How can any man’s life be healthy by living the single life? We’ve heard the adage every good man needs a women behind him and a way to a man’s heart is through his stomach. People today laugh at these old wives take as pure sexist nonsense. We live in a world of equality and women do not need to be subservient to any man and men can navigate without a wife as one man explains his life.

    Anonymous Share MGTOW 05
    Well, as for myself most of the positive aspects of being MGTOW have been a profound clarity with regards to women’s nature in general as well as in personal situations hence: easier decision making. I am better focused on my personal goals and career. I am generally harder to get bribed or entangled with bad people. I am more bulls~~~ proof. At first I had red pill rage and that decreased in time as my own dignity increased. I have less stress/worries over rather inane issues. I have an easier life / more laid-back-style and more personal freedom. My life is completely different now since going MGTOW, I’m getting promoted again! I have ended hate towards everyone.

    Anonymous Share MGTOW 06
    Going my own way is very enjoyable and I’m not willing to trade that for the supposedly wonderful experience of marriage. … I’m about to graduate with a degree in computer engineering from a prestigious university with absolutely no debt, my novel is almost done, my piano playing is getting nothing but better, I have my health, energy, a functioning body, and a functioning mind.

    Conclusion
    There are obstacles for MGTOW that lay ahead, but men are amazing and the most resourceful beings on the planet and men will learn to surmount these and any other problem that confront our survival. Since Victorian time’s bachelors were stigmatized as losers and worse, but today MGTOW are discovering worth, becoming model citizens on their own terms, having free lives and living a nonviolent and wonderful life.

    The brotherhood of MGTOW continue to define their new lifestyles and do what men excel at; solve problems, harness the world around us and build communities only this time the brothers are doing it for themselves.

    END

    #222848
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    Anonymous
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    es perfecto!

    #222860
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    Tim Patten
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    The single life has never been better!

    #222861
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    Slingshot
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    Hi Tim

    A recent survey revealed details and benefits of this new bachelorhood.

    Is there a reference to the survey?

    “In 2015 there have been six private emails from members telling sharing that MGTOW discovery saved their lives”.

    Is ‘telling sharing’ correct?

    People today laugh at these old wives take as pure sexist nonsense

    old wives ‘tails’

    but today MGTOW are discovering worth, becoming model citizens on their own terms, having free lives and living a nonviolent and wonderful life.

    I would agonise over this bit if I wrote it. It’s a bit touchie-feelie for me. I’m nonviolent but I reserve the right to be if provoked! I’d use independence, self esteem, time and resources for personal interests and development, freedom from traditions and others’ expectations.

    That’s my 2 pence worth.

    #222878
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    FearlessMGHOW
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    You know, I’m starting to agree with what OldBill said about you on your last post.

    You never post any other topics except “feedback on article x.”

    You also post articles on AVFM and I seriously don’t trust those guys.

    Men age like fine wine. Women age like milk. "One hundred women are not worth a single testicle." -Confucius

    #222895
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    Tim Patten
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    Slingshot wrote:

    A recent survey revealed details and benefits of this new bachelorhood.

    Is there a reference to the survey?

    Thank you Slingshot. I have gotten these and made updates.

    #222897
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    Tim Patten
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    You know, I’m starting to agree with what OldBill said about you on your last post.
    You never post any other topics except “feedback on article x.”
    You also post articles on AVFM and I seriously don’t trust those guys.

    I send articles to many sites, Male Defender, NCFM, Avfm, The New Male Studies…. and 30 others. each zine/blog or site has their choice to publish or not. I have no control.

    I write every day, so I don’t chat at the reddit or mgtow sites.

    #222902
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    OldBill
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    You know, I’m starting to agree with what OldBill said about you on your last post.

    Glad to see that the scales are dropping from a few eyes.

    Not only does he constantly solicit ideas and quotes for his “articles” and advertise for his “work” here, he’s beginning to con the membership into acting as a free editing service too.

    How’d you like this latest effort? His poor sentence construction, odd word choices, torturous phrasing, repetition, and all the rest add up to an effort which would garner a middle school student a “C” in their creative writing class.

    He also quotes Keymaster without attribution while referring to him as a “post monitor” whatever the hell that means. He drops six other “shares” from alleged MGTOWs too, although given his penchant for simply making s~~~ up it’s probably correct not to call them quotes.

    All in all it’s the usual Patten pattern; slap together an article out of other people’s words and ideas, shamelessly promote it wherever possible, and pray you con a few more fools into buying your self-published e-books.

    Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

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    FearlessMGHOW
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    All in all it’s the usual Patten pattern; slap together an article out of other people’s words and ideas, shamelessly promote it where ever possible, and pray you con a few more fools into buying your self-published e-books

    I definitely agree there. I think he’s just out to promote his products and make money however he can and if it means leeching off MGTOW he’ll do that as well.

    Men age like fine wine. Women age like milk. "One hundred women are not worth a single testicle." -Confucius

    #222918
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    Tim Patten
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    oldbill… it is not exactly as you say, I am a writer and write about mgtow and rape… seem to be favorite subjects. I do post articled before they are professionally edited so you get raw, unclear gibberish here and there.

    My goal is to grow the men’s issues so that there ‘might’ be more equity in gendered voices someday… I also know or realize that men may never have an equal voice as women.

    #222921
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    Tim Patten
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    FearlessMGHOW

    The only way to share the freedom is to pass the information to others. I don’t do videos….. I just write and enjoy the process. I’n near 65 years old now and have concerns for young men, so books will be here after I pass.

    #222923
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    OldBill
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    I write every day, so I don’t chat at the reddit or mgtow sites.

    No time to chat, but plenty of time to self promote, ask for ideas, gather unattributed quotes, get free proofreading, and all the rest, right?

    You are a liar, fraud, and charlatan, Patten, and the sooner Keymaster flushes you away the better.

    Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

    #223302
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    Goodkid43
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    Thanks for your effort Tim. Having had my own mid size business, I appreciate and understand the efforts of people like you and Keymaster. I often think about the effort it takes you to write these articles and KM to run a site like this knowing that the monetary returns are minimal but the spiritual rewards are great.

    Interesting, as I was writing this, I sensed a moral obligation to contribute to this site. Truth always leads to responsibilities.
    God bless, Michael

    #223449
    Tim Patten
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    Thanks for your effort Tim.

    Much appreciated.

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