Fed Up With the BullShenanigans

[GrumpParticipant 47]

So I’ve had a couple of red-pill experiences before I knew what the phrase meant. Before this taking-on of the MGTOW identity, I did champion myself as a White Knight, and rather proudly too. I was reinforced with all of the rhetoric that current SJWs and modern-women were feeding me, and I felt extremely validated in my zeal and determination to “Fight for Justice and Equality.” Even post red-pill, I still feel a little bit of a desire for justice and equality, but more of a philosophical sense of principle and less of a some-are-more-equal-than-others sense.

My first pill to swallow was also my first sexual experience. I was 19, and the girl was at a local college. We socialized for a bit, then hooked up and went our separate ways. A few days later I find out that she pressed rape charges (of course I have evidence now that proves it was not so, but I was silenced by my own insecurities in the face of legal repercussions) and I was now on the campus’s trespasser’s list for the next three years. My reputation was suitably ruined. Years later, I discovered she pressed those charges because she felt guilty for cheating on her then-boyfriend with me, and it was a cover-up for her poor choices so her fellow wouldn’t leave. What a swell gal. Suddenly, I realize who actually holds the power in legal preceding and court cases. My faith in an equally just system of court was effectively broken. Fortunately, there are no lasting consequences at this point, as I’ve since been removed from the list and (I’ve been told) the records for that case have been cleared (though I do still have a copy of the case notes).

My second pill was when I was engaged. Girl decided to lie about cheating on me. To be clear: She did not cheat on me (at least not in the incident she told me about), but she claimed to have. She said it was John Doe (who I happened to be best friends with) and said when it happened. I laughed and left — I was actually out drinking with John Doe at the time that my fiancee claimed she was banging naughty bits. To this day I have not been able to figure out what she was trying for, unless it was some elaborate s~~~ test, but it’s old news. She does try to contact me every once in a while to “hit up where we left off”, but nah. Not worth my time. Dodged a bullet once, I don’t fancy being shot at gain. I learned two lessons here. 1: Emotional investment makes you vulnerable, and is a risk that needs to be heavily weighed. 2: Women hide themselves and their motives, and they can do it pretty damn well against a person that’s not aware.

Finally, I had my final red-pill experience while I was in college recently. I was studying to be a pastor. It wasn’t any great elucidation or bad relationship that made me realize how screwed the current world’s mindset is. It was the philosophy classes there. It was the ethics classes. And more than that, it was seeing the huge double-standard that I was about to be knee-deep involved in trying to fix. Forget that noise. I learned that the world doesn’t want to be saved. It just wants to feel good while it’s being burned to the ground.

The rest of the realizations happened gradually and slowly as I’ve been critically analyzing both my mindset and the mindset of my peers. Now I’m 27 (still very young) and still have no legal leashes, but I have the freedom to pursue what I want. I feel like a huge distraction has just been wiped away, and now I have the rest of my life to fulfill my dreams. I recently picked up a job doing roofing, which I absolutely love. It pays well enough given my circumstances, and the hours are long and the work is satisfying. I’m saving up to start taking pilot’s lessons. With no relationship in sight, and no drain on my finances, I can pay for them all out-of-pocket and work on my dream career of being a pilot.

It feels good. I feel that I’m incredibly lucky that I didn’t go through any significant red-pill rage, but I have all of you and the reading that I’ve been doing up until this point to thank. My mind has been opened before my will has been broken. I can focus on my ideals of being fair, being kind, being cautious, and being free without the yoke of burden that the trending feminist movement is trying to place on us, all while working on myself and improving my future life.

[bladeParticipant]

Welcome to the brotherhood

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[Jack HarperParticipant 2863]

Welcome Grump. Good name. I admit I am a bit jealous of you guys that figure stuff out so young without having to go through the anguish of marriage.

[WallyParticipant]

Welcome brother, you are ahead of so many others, and it’s great you didn’t have to go through the rage, I think as more young men go their own way fewer will have to experience the rage as they will be coming to the realization without going through the hurt of divorce rape. At least for some.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[GoodKid44Participant 1524]

What ever happened to the prospect of becoming a pastor?

I was never into religion myself but from why I’ve been told it’s very non gynocentric. Hence why we’re seeing a huge atheism push my feminists. Here I was thinking that atheism was all about becoming more enlightened and science based, and now I see that a huge part of it is just women looking to avoid having to submit to man, all the while still being able to benefit off blood sweat and tears of them.

No such thing as a free lunch… unless you’re a woman. Hopefully men going mgtow changes that (doubtful),but we’re already going our own way so who f~~~ing cares lol

Thank you for your post.

[GrumpParticipant 47]

GoodKid44 wrote:

What ever happened to the prospect of becoming a pastor?

I was never into religion myself but from why I’ve been told it’s very non gynocentric.

My hesitation to pursue that field basically comes from the fact that most of the church bodies I worked with effectively emasculated their leadership bodies. While I and many others do try to be patient and understanding, there comes a point when tough love is necessary for certain people to grow (sometimes myself included), and I saw a number of pastors that graciously exhibited this approach only to be fired or relocated to a less sensitive church body. I have no patience for politics, and there’s a ton of that in the church bodies that I have been exposed to.

I still adhere to what I’ve learned, but I can make a bigger and more sincere difference in my life and the lives of others by living among my fellow man instead of living behind a pulpit.

[Anonymous 18]

Welcome brother.

Grump wrote:

1: Emotional investment makes you vulnerable, and is a risk that needs to be heavily weighed.

It might help to etch in stone that emotional investment is a male emotion. A woman NEVER invests emotionally directly in a man.

She invests in potential outcomes suitable to her that are plausible using the man as a conduit.

[Anonymous 3]

Thank you for your post. Very well put & welcome.
The feminist movements main objective is to dismiss what being a male is all about & replace it with socially constructed gender identities
In other words,men are ” bad ” because they are men & everyone who is not a man is being oppressed by them.
You gave some very good Red Pill experiences.
Stick with the winners.
Stick with MGTOW

[Anonymous 7]

Welcome home.
Peace favor your sword.

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Welcome Grumpy,

I look forward to reading your posts and comments in the Forums.

And we share a lot in common.

I have been falsely accused by too many women and their degenerate Pals. Here is one of my Red Pill descriptions that I posted last year:

/forums/topic/the-domestic-abuse-machine-as-an-apparatus-for-mens-enslavement/

Your feedback in that Post is appreciated.

There is a new Television Drama series from the UK called “Liar.”
Spoiler alert, all of the accused men are ultimately guilty.
What else can we expect from our Great Enemy?

Anyway, your Introduction is Outstanding. It should be made a “Sticky” and shown as a shining example of how a MGTOW makes an Introduction.

Your perspectives, explanations, Bonafides, and life choices are good examples for other men.

It gives me hope that young men like you exist, especially these days.

Grump wrote:

…….most of the church bodies I worked with effectively emasculated their leadership bodies.

For decades, I was a Church Musician and did some volunteer work as a Handyman for them.

I completely agree with your assessment of the emasculation of our Churches.

Yes, the following song was created in different circumstances, but I like it and believe that it applies to our Churches:

I am now reading “The Screwtape Letters,” by C.S. Lewis, once again with MGTOW eyes. It is one of my favorite books and it still makes me laugh out loud.

Here is some humor from my Mentor, Dave, who has been a Natural Born MGTOW for most of his life. It is in the form of a rhetorical question to make you examine how free you are of the influences of women:

Are you at a place where a group of women talking sound like a bunch of hens clucking or are they “fascinating” to you?

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[Wildwalker57Participant 107]

Grump wrote:

I learned that the world doesn’t want to be saved. It just wants to feel good while it’s being burned to the ground.

Love the observation and articulated so well. Welcome.

"It's a trap!" Admiral Ackbar.

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