Fate and the red pill

[ArrowtothekneeParticipant 42]

I’m not sure if this a topic somewhere but wanted to talk about it anyway. I don’t know or assume anyone’s religious or spiritual beliefs on here but I wanted to bring this up. Does anyone feel like fate or God called them to the MGTOW lifestyle? People talk of things happening for the best, or things that are meant to be. Does anyone here feel that this is what was meant for him? I know this site is about going “your own way” but what if that was always in the cards since the beginning?

[WarratahParticipant 895]

At the height of the breakup madness that characterises a NPB/BPD venomous bitch, my heart was totally broken. I’d never felt such pain.
I knew that I’d lost the game, a game I’d never even realised I’d been playing.
In that sadness I went into the orchard with the scythe and started cutting the long grass under the fruit trees.
I suddenly stopped, looked up and said “God, look at me, I’ve lost my wife, I’m going to lose my children, I will lose my farm, my house, everything that I’ve worked for.”
“Why are you punishing me?”
Inside my head I heard a very soft, very calm voice and it said: “WarHar, what makes you think I’m punishing you?”

That calmed me (while I tried to figure out just what the f~~~ it actually meant!)
Typical of God, you never get a straight answer.
Haven’t heard anything since, but I do know that I will survive.

...And in our own despair, against our will, Comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Agamemnon; by Aeschylus

[chirParticipant]

Few hundred years ago I might have been a Monk.

So being a MGHOW Monk is not such a far stretch. 🙂

It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

[Anonymous 42]

MGTOW can be seen and identified under biblical prophecy, “hearts growing cold and turning away”. “lovers of their own flesh”, “women with the faces of men”.

So yes I think it’s something greater than ourselves driving forces unseen. Yes absolutely, it’s a spiritual calling to grow cold in heart toward the most wicked generation of women to walk in such vile and merry way destroying men and laughing every step of the way.

The WALL is real, it’s an enormous monolithic grave stone marked “MARRIAGE R.I.P.”.

What else can a man do except vanish from women/R.I.P.?

TIGER

[RennieParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

MGTOW can be seen and identified under biblical prophecy, “hearts growing cold and turning away”. “lovers of their own flesh”, “women with the faces of men”.

So yes I think it’s something greater than ourselves driving forces unseen. Yes absolutely, it’s a spiritual calling to grow cold in heart toward the most wicked generation of women to walk in such vile and merry way destroying men and laughing every step of the way.

The WALL is real, it’s an enormous monolithic grave stone marked “MARRIAGE R.I.P.”.

What else can a man do except vanish from women/R.I.P.?

TIGER

Either this world is coming to an end, or we are rapidly heading into a new dark age.

People can’t even accept basic facts of life anymore, things that have been known since time immemorial. It’s very disturbing to think about it. Like that there are two genders and only two genders.

[Anonymous 42]

Rennie wrote:

People can’t even accept basic facts of life anymore, things that have been known since time immemorial. It’s very disturbing to think about it. Like that there are two genders and only two genders.

Yes Rennie, it frustrates a man to his core to have the illogical spat in his face, that’s why we’ve joined the silent masses that dropped everything and quietly walked away.

Women are desperate for men and lost their identity that attracted us to them, now they’re deranged and psychotic in their indoctrination to feminism.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

Interesting thread.

I have a crazy theory (may be wrong). I don’t want to be offensive here- just pondering.
I think that when God made man, He made man and woman in “agape” love. At that time, women were probably an asset to men as their love was unconditional, and not self-centered.
After the fall, mankind lost their “agape” love. Love became more of a “phileo” love- conditional and self-centered. Women after the fall morphed into creatures which could perfectly torment men.

Looking at the hearts of women, I personally think MGTOW is the safest place to be. And you probably didn’t get here by accident.

[RennieParticipant]

Prefer Peace to Piece wrote:

Interesting thread.

I have a crazy theory (may be wrong). I don’t want to be offensive here- just pondering.
I think that when God made man, He made man and woman in “agape” love. At that time, women were probably an asset to men as their love was unconditional, and not self-centered.
After the fall, mankind lost their “agape” love. Love became more of a “phileo” love- conditional and self-centered. Women after the fall morphed into creatures which could perfectly torment men.

Looking at the hearts of women, I personally think MGTOW is the safest place to be. And you probably didn’t get here by accident.

Don’t worry about being offensive. We already been over the subject of PC and those people just need to get a grip.

Anyways

I always got the sense that Eve was severely cursed as a result of her actions and that spread from her to every woman ever born.

Guess God was mad (Rightly so) that Adam disregarded what he was told(not to eat of the tree) and decided to follow Eve instead. The first mangina ever.

[WarratahParticipant 895]

Finding the germ of truth, the hidden nugget of wisdom lurking inside the age-old stories has always fascinated me.
Rennie mentions Adam and Eve. What do we learn from that? Be very wary of taking a woman’s advice.
Why did Eve encourage Adam to eat? Because she had already done so and there was no way she was going to face the consequences on her own.
“If I’m going down I’ll take you with me”

...And in our own despair, against our will, Comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Agamemnon; by Aeschylus

[RennieParticipant]

Warratah wrote:

Why did Eve encourage Adam to eat? Because she had already done so and there was no way she was going to face the consequences on her own.
“If I’m going down I’ll take you with me”

You nailed it. I wonder if God would’ve destroyed the woman completely as a result. If Adam had done what he should’ve, maybe us men would be living in a paradise of harmony and peace instead of posting in here.

Anonymous wrote:

Yes Rennie, it frustrates a man to his core to have the illogical spat in his face, that’s why we’ve joined the silent masses that dropped everything and quietly walked away.

I mean look on the news. Another mother wants their boy to be a girl and use the girls washroom. There is no end to the madness.

[ArrowtothekneeParticipant 42]

Great responses so far. I wasn’t sure how many people on the forum believed in any kind of religion. I figured there would be a fair amount of agnostics and atheists here too. This is fine with me since we go our own ways on religion too.

For years I thought maybe God never put me in a long term relationship because he was either sparing me from bad women or had something better for me. As the years keep going by I have no clue what He wants from me or what the plan is. Sometimes I think being alone must be plan and I’ll admit that scares me a little.

[HitmanParticipant]

Warratah wrote:

I suddenly stopped, looked up and said “God, look at me, I’ve lost my wife, I’m going to lose my children, I will lose my farm, my house, everything that I’ve worked for.”
“Why are you punishing me?”
Inside my head I heard a very soft, very calm voice and it said: “WarHar, what makes you think I’m punishing you?”

you struck a chord that resonates with me on this my friend.
i felt very much the same.
only it took over a year to hear the second part…
“why do you think i’m punishing you ? ”
.
now i see the ex leaving me as a gift !

[ArrowtothekneeParticipant 42]

I guess when something is meant to be it is easier to accept. I’ve been facing the possibility of being alone for years but always clung to optimism. Thanks to MGTOW I find it easier to accept my fate, whatever it may be.

[IAmManParticipant 228]

Not sure if this fits but a few months before the ex left I had a fleeting thought. Even though I didn’t understand I was being played I momentarily felt I was trapped. I told God to get me out if that was His will. Then I snapped out of my purple pill moment and went back to blue bliss. When she left I was distraught and my only wish was for her to come back. I had the lingering thought that my prayer had been answered and that it was best for me. Only recently did I accept that as true. I never heard a voice and the heavens didn’t part.

[FreedomParticipant 295]

Anyone who is doing well in their station naturally believes that they deserve it. It is a rare thing for a wealthy and successful man to humbly admit that all he has is just luck.

“Fate” is just a way to say “God favors me above others” without admitting belief in God. Fate is actually a very self-contradictory concept.

And Christians who believe that God has blessed them, perhaps as a reward for their faith, have forgotten the direct and simple words of Paul: “God does not show favoritism.” (Romans 2:11)

I would say the same of MGTOW. People are here because they were born into a time in which feminism has made things bad enough that it makes sense to shun marriage (and possibly shun women entirely), and their topical web searches led them to this site. All else is just sanctifying the mundane.

It is wise to fear dangerous commitments.

[JackinovParticipant 5229]

God blessed me with having a logical, rational mind- so much so that I couldn’t take part in the willful deception my blue-pill counterparts were participating in.

Now that I think about it, I actually started off purple pill. But I looked at the bible and I looked at “happy” couples and I knew that this is not what God intended for a full and happy life- being trapped in a relationship with a raging back-handed c~~~.

Proverbs 27:15
A quarrelsome wife is as annoying as constant dripping on a rainy day. He who would restrain her restrains the wind, And grasps oil with his right hand.

The red pill is the key to happiness.

are you a chia pet in man drag

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