Farewell Blissful Ignorance

[ABParticipant 762]

If only ignorance was truly blissful, the fact it isn’t is precisely what led me here.

I just wanted to start by saying how refreshing it is to find a community that actually speaks to me; a brotherhood of like minded males where my views fit cohesively with the content I’ve already consumed.

I’ve had a bitter taste in my mouth for a long time now, a sickening churning in my stomach whenever I see feminists shouting down men’s rights activists, a feeling of utter contempt for the willful ignorance of females to the true reality any awakened man knows; women are not the victims, and males are not the oppressors – it is quite literally the contrary.

I found this site after hearing it referenced in “The Red Pill” by Cassie Jaye; for anyone unfamiliar, this movie/documentary follows a self-proclaimed feminist as she heads down the rabbit hole of men’s issues, and emerges at the end a changed woman who rejects the posturing and slander of modern age feminism. The content of the film is harrowing, and a lot of the topics resonated deeply with me; notably the segments dedicated to the disgrace of family courts and how royally men are exploited where children are concerned. Anyhow, I digress; it’s worth a watch. The movie brought me here nonetheless, and I am glad for it.

I have already read a lot of posts on this forum whilst waiting for my account to be moderated and accepted. My wait for activation is also the reason for such a lengthy post, so apologies for the long read. Behind the hurt and anger here, I see strong men who have been through hell at the hands of callous women, one that really stuck with me was the story of “may 7 2020”. Stories like these both break me, but too strengthen my resolve and belief in MGTOW.

I am not a stranger to the scornful nature of women; admittedly my naivety allowed me to a Father a daughter whilst in a bad relations~~~ (are any of them actually good?). My child was registered without my name on the birth certificate, despite full awareness that I was the Father and accepting financial contributions the duration of the pregnancy. When I challenged this, I was repeatedly referred to as a sperm donor and threatened with physical violence for daring to appoint a solicitor, shoved about by her Mother whilst being screamed at, and told I had no choice but to surrender any involvement in my child’s life.

I initiated court proceedings shortly thereafter, and despite being the complainant I was vilified and dragged over hot coals jumping through increasingly absurd hoops to satisfy the court that I deserved to be involved in my own biological child’s life. It was at this point I realised how corrupt the system was, and that the Mother was automatically valued higher than me in parenting, despite me being the disadvantaged and exploited party. Of course I was still ordered to maintain support payments for a child that I was callously refused access too, despite desperately struggling to afford court proceedings.

Almost a year later I won my court case to a chorus of abuse and threats hurled venomously across the court foyer by her family. Ultimately I was awarded a paltry amount of involvement (2hrs a week increasing over a period of 6 months to 6hrs incrementally) and the costs I incurred in the process were crippling – my standard of living had been demolished, my reputation tarnished (after all, where there’s smoke there’s fire, right?), and my faith in the Family Court system thoroughly decimated.

After this experience, my opinion of females swiftly changed, and I went from being Chad Thunderc~~~ to MGHOW. I found myself spiraling, free-falling into a state of disregard for the chivalrous values I had once considered paramount to being considered a virtuous gentleman. I would unashamedly use women for sex, refuse to partake in any of the superfluous niceties; I realised I had spent all my life to this point trying to impress women, to push myself ahead of the crowd of other males and stand out like a preening peac~~~ for their approval. This was my mistake; I valued the attention of women over the respect of men. I realise now retrospectively that I was a fool – I had dedicated too much energy (to my own detriment) in pursuing romantic involvement that only served to further my frustrations and failures, vainly believing men would revere me for my ability to coax attractive females into my bed. Instead they mocked my failings when the females moved along to the next Chad with a bigger bank balance.

After seeing a post mention it, I dove in and read The Manipulated Man by Esther Vilar in a single sitting with insatiable delight at seeing a woman who writes bluntly about what I have always known; males are born into servitude to women, our entire existence conditioned expertly to cater to their whims and compete for their approval. No more. I am a man, and I am free. A couple of members herein I saw mentioning Tom Leykis – how have I not heard of this guy until now? If ever I was assured of the toxicity of women, it was by listening to a few of his YouTube videos. I will undoubtedly happen across further resources in my new journey that remind me of why I am GMOW.

I look forward to getting to know you all better; sorry for the long read, but thanks for having me.

No-one's yet explained to me exactly what's so great // About slaving fifty years away on something that you hate // About meekly shuffling down the path of mediocrity // Well if that's your road then take it, but it's not the road for me.

[bladeParticipant]

Welcome bro . Been threw family court circus it is a corrupt f~~~ing joke . Been here will help you through the rest of the hurdles that follow . You will lovr this place and glad you are here . Welcome again brother.

Ps . Before anyone else mentions it you might want to change your avatar from yourself . You don’t have to but normally that advice is thrown in .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[MACHOParticipant]

A big welcome AB, I just read your whole intro, in a sense waiting for the activation of your account allowed you to come up with a gem 🍺

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[ABParticipant 762]

Yeah blade the court system is definitely a circus; insanity that a guy gets kicked when they’re down and trying to fight for involvement in their kids life. I hear you on the avatar thing – I was hoping it would get my account accepted faster so I could get involved 👍

Thanks Macho, looking forward to being involved in this forum 🍻

No-one's yet explained to me exactly what's so great // About slaving fifty years away on something that you hate // About meekly shuffling down the path of mediocrity // Well if that's your road then take it, but it's not the road for me.

[bladeParticipant]

Cool avatar bro . Complete with the scar from the plantation escape .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[MACHOParticipant]

blade wrote:

Ps . Before anyone else mentions it you might want to change your avatar from yourself . You don’t have to but normally that advice is thrown in .

Love your new avatar AB 😎

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[MGTOW_MikeParticipant 6253]

AB,

Welcome brother. Any issues you have, do not hesitate to ask for help. Even the darkest places of your mind can be terrifying. We are here to help each-other and never ridicule each other for our weaknesses/suffering.

A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

[ABParticipant 762]

Thanks Mike, I have ventured deep into the darkest corners of my psyche when I was battling through court, when I truly believed I was going to lose my child through no fault of my own, and in spite of my tenacious fight. Suicide, homicide, violent fantasies that I romanticised but never acted on.

This community seems the ideal refuge for uninterrupted discussion and awareness of the corruption that shackles men in the modern world.

🍻

No-one's yet explained to me exactly what's so great // About slaving fifty years away on something that you hate // About meekly shuffling down the path of mediocrity // Well if that's your road then take it, but it's not the road for me.

[bladeParticipant]

Glad you changed yours macho from mr bean . I use to hear his voice when i read your threads it was hard . Now your the hulk i hear you roar . Lol .

AB it shocked me first time at court how woman were been abusive c~~~s to there kids dads while the security gaurd did f~~~ all . But yet i seen the prick on several occasions have a word to guys that had done nothing . Never will i forget a young guy sitting near me out side the court room crying while been spoken to like s~~~ by an old female lawyer which told me and him to wait out side . I tried to comfort him and said f~~~ this i am going in . She didn’t know i came in and told the judge she forgot our paper work . F~~~ing bitch is an agent for lawyers and does up to 5 cases a day . F~~~ she was a man hating c~~~ . I f~~~ed of the law firm real quick . Lots of law firms use her and have herd over time other guys been f~~~ed over by this piece of s~~~ . Never realized how corrupt a system it was .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[ABParticipant 762]

That’s the one blade, I spent more time on my court case than my solicitor did – the amount of times she screwed up on paperwork etc. She even told me courts don’t have the power to have my name added to the birth certificate and it was entirely at the mother’s discretion but after looking into it myself I found you could. Ultimately I had the court order my name be added and I got parental responsibility reinstated but it was insane to me that a family court solicitor wouldn’t know that already. Perhaps she did know and her intention was to persuade me otherwise…

No-one's yet explained to me exactly what's so great // About slaving fifty years away on something that you hate // About meekly shuffling down the path of mediocrity // Well if that's your road then take it, but it's not the road for me.

[bladeParticipant]

Oh they f~~~ing know . They play dumb to drag it out for cash . I did my own case and blitzed it . But got seriously f~~~ed . Ex in my trail told the judge in detail how she physically abused the kids in a half hour rant . The judge even said don’t you want these kids . Kids lived with me for over 3 and half years she didn’t want them then grabs them because she was on her way to jail for a crime . She was doing two lots of court . F~~~ing joke . My kid just got out of hospital a few days ago after a suicide attempt . Cops have been at the house a number of times . I finished court in 2014 . Still to this day i am dealing with s~~~ .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[joetechParticipant]

Welcome AB. Tom Leykis is a radio personality in the US. That’s probably why the name is new to you. The courts in the States aren’t any better. Most of the assistant DA’s that work for the welfare offices are women, and it’s obvious they hate men. I’m glad you got your parental rights established. I hope all goes well with you. You’ve swallowed the biggest red pill of all…family court.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[bladeParticipant]

You can download the tom leykis app to your phone . He is a legend . There are lots of him on utube to . The app is worth while downloading . There’s no holding back with language

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[MuglintarParticipant 1333]

Welcome AB,

As far as i understand, you have already aquired a whole lot of the truth.
Congratz to that, i wish i would have been that deep into it, when i started.

First things first, quite a number of guys in here have been through the court systems. So grab yourself a chair, a nice cold beer is in the fridge (M52 does commonly say this, i know, he may take it as “homage”). You found the oasis in a desert threatening men’s lifes.

AB, you are the first one, I read of, who joined in reference to “the red pill”, the movie has been discussed here quite a bit and I still have to wait for release here (most probably only via netflix).

Bro’. may i ask for the meaning of “AB”? I know it as a common abbreviation of my line of work.

Nice to have you on board.

"Him, who delights in solitude, is either a wild beast or a GOD!" - Aristotle (Aristot. Pol. 1.1253a) 1 Hom. Il. 9.63; the passage goes on: ἐστὶν ἐκεῖνος ι ὃς πολέμου ἔραται.

[I am SpartacusParticipant 164]

I know your pain all to well AB. All too well. I had to protect my name. My c~~~ of an ex wife first went after my room mate and his kids with the allegation that my friend and his kids were molesting my daughter. (nothing happened. Touchee game with 2 girls aged six at the time) she wanted to do away with any and all companionship between my daughter and I. Fast forward 2 years she went after me. Made the same allegations. (I’m in law enforcement, would have ruined my career) Long story short she did away with her motion (so any and all of the investigations would not have been heard) I was vindicated and validated a good person. She was coaching my kid that I was a bad man. A week later was the last time I saw my daughter for almost 2 years. They were never home for me to pick her up. No answering the phone. Ended by me signing over my rights. As my daughter (10 and a half at the time) stood in front of me and told me she didn’t ever want to see me again. That she wanted to be adopted by my ex’s New Chad ( a man she cheated on me with and was pregnant with during my divorce) Long drawn out process. Had to buy my lawyer 2 new Mustangs with the amount I was paying him.

"I am Spartacus!", said Spartacus.................and everyone around him.

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

Welcome to the party, AB. Fantastic intro. S M W.

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[Anonymous 1]

Welcome AB, I liked your intro, you were the one jumping ropes to impress women, I was the one playing videogames and not giving a f~~~ about them, to each his own. The good thing is coming to the same conclusions and have an overdose of redpills(meet the bros!).

Freedom from gynocentrism(at least in our homes) is worth 1000 hot pussies.

[ABParticipant 762]

Damn blade that’s rough bro, thankfully for myself I get it easy most of the time because my ex understands the benefit of me having access so that she can go out and spend my child support payments on alcohol and dates with Chad’s.

Indeed joetech, family court was the greatest eye-opener to how corrupt the system is against men. Damn near drove me to suicide but I refused to give her the satisfaction, so I sucked it up painfully and soldiered on to victory. Well. Victory may be overstating it, but nevertheless I ‘won’ in court insofar as ‘winning’ is possible for a man in those circumstances.

No-one's yet explained to me exactly what's so great // About slaving fifty years away on something that you hate // About meekly shuffling down the path of mediocrity // Well if that's your road then take it, but it's not the road for me.

[ABParticipant 762]

To be honest Muglinar until watching the Red Pill I had no idea such a community as this existed where men could find strength, support and understanding. I had always tried to discuss such matters on social media platforms but it never took long for men haters to surface and drown you out in their toxic abuse.

AB is a name I adopted a while back as an online moniker; it is an abbreviation for ‘Anotha B’ which was the name of a forum I used to administrate and my first initial. I wish it could be something more relevant and interesting like ‘Acid Bath’, ‘Always Broke’ or ‘Another Bloke’ since they succinctly summarise my thoughts where women are concerned.

No-one's yet explained to me exactly what's so great // About slaving fifty years away on something that you hate // About meekly shuffling down the path of mediocrity // Well if that's your road then take it, but it's not the road for me.

[ABParticipant 762]

Damn Spartacus, that is rough. Women aren’t dumb when it comes to knowing where to place the thumbscrews and apply pressure. Allegations of sexual abuse are always going to plague my conscience as a possible attack vector my ex could choose at later stage if things sour. Parental Alienation is sickening, the manipulation of a child into hating a parent is wrong on all levels – yet another fear I live with daily. I cannot even begin to fathom how I would move forward with my life in your situation bro.

No-one's yet explained to me exactly what's so great // About slaving fifty years away on something that you hate // About meekly shuffling down the path of mediocrity // Well if that's your road then take it, but it's not the road for me.

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