Family court and men

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22510]

Ever notice that the court never is concerned about the man’s quality of life lowering because of divorce?

When has a guy ever had that work in his favor, to reduce child support, to reduce alimony?

One party of the marriage CONTRACT gets no concern from the court at all.

To the point that men are actually turned into slaves for the ex wife. Family court has created a debtors prison full of men who can’t pay their alimony and child support payments. Even on those who have lost work, either had hours cut or been let go, or are trying to get payments caught up, they have caused men to lose jobs by throwing them in jail, where of course, they can’t earn money so they continue then to not be able to pay.

It’s ridiculous.

When ever was anyone guaranteed their standard of living would never go down?

Married people have incomes go up and down for a whole slew of reasons, planned and unplanned. Where is government demanding businesses or who else pick up the slack for the married families whose standard of living may decrease?

But when a divorce happens, now her standard of living can’t change?

You know why they dont care about the guy? Because marriage raises a womans standard of living, all the time. It always lowers a mans standard of living, because he’s the bigger earner and now he has a lot,less of his own money to do things with. It goes to the woman. and the kids. Her money she brings in was barely enough to afford her an apartment room with several roommates, and a crappy car she didn’t maintain, and cheap ramen and frozen meals cuz food is ‘expensive’. No their quality of life leaps way up with a man’s salary.

This is indirect proof they know the man always improves a womans standard of living. The fact they never care about his going down means they know divorce will lower hers. because the male financial gravy train husbank atm is going away. She would be back to living with several roommates in an apartment eating crappy food and driving a shiite car again that she still doesn’t know how to maintain, if the courts didn’t financially divorce rape the man for her.

Don’t be an atm, FFS. WAKE UP. YOU ARE JUST A FREE MONEY BANK TO THEM. Giving them kids ensures you will be for 18-20 years and they can leave at any time, take half your stuff right then and get tax free child support and alimony from you. and you have to pay taxes on what you’re forced to give them. don’t be divorce raped. don’t marry in the first place.

You are the only one of the two that is made to be responsible for the marriage contract. She won’t be.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[TwistParticipant]

If I hadn’t lived through divorce court I would never believe such an institution could exist today. four years, six judges, the most hateful c~~~s (her lawyer, the lawyer for the children, the judges’ clerks). NEVER would have believed it.

I can deal with a crazy ass bitch. Hysteria has been known for thousands of years. They go nuts. I understand that part.

But that there is an institution that blatantly supports their raving insanity, that is gleeful to separate you from your riches and your children – this is what shocked me.

Heed the warning above.

Dont
Dont
Dont

[Sky-OParticipant 18936]

What I am about to say will not be popular in this forum.

But family courts saved my life. At a young age, I witnessed the total financial devastation that family courts had on the lives of older men that I knew (primarily an uncle) and it resulted in me getting a vasectomy prior to ever having any children.

Got divorced at one point after a three year marriage with no kids and it was a clean and fair break and distribution of assets. Because I kept it out of being decided in court. Made sure my ex felt like she was in control of the situation. Her arrogance was her weakness. And mediated with both attorneys for a total of 4 hours and 15 minutes.

Done. Just like that. And I had certain assets hidden that nobody at the table knew about.

Furthermore. Family court has devastated the lives of at least two beta wallets that thought they were “the man” when ex pumpkins of mine rolled out and secured them, got married and bailed out on me for a better deal.

In their cases, family court delivered the kind of karma that I was unable to unleash.

[MonkParticipant 16984]

Sky-O wrote:

What I am about to say will not be popular in this forum.

Not at all.

Watching someone else go to hell in a basket and drawing the appropriate conclusion is not just reasonable, it’s damn smart.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22510]

Sky-O wrote:

What I am about to say will not be popular in this forum.
But family courts saved my life. At a young age, I witnessed the total financial devastation that family courts had on the lives of older men that I knew (primarily an uncle) and it resulted in me getting a vasectomy prior to ever having any children.
Got divorced at one point after a three year marriage with no kids and it was a clean and fair break and distribution of assets. Because I kept it out of being decided in court. Made sure my ex felt like she was in control of the situation. Her arrogance was her weakness. And mediated with both attorneys for a total of 4 hours and 15 minutes.
Done. Just like that. And I had certain assets hidden that nobody at the table knew about.
Furthermore. Family court has devastated the lives of at least two beta wallets that thought they were “the man” when ex pumpkins of mine rolled out and secured them, got married and bailed out on me for a better deal.
In their cases, family court delivered the kind of karma that I was unable to unleash.

No, we know there are exceptions. Of course. They are exceedingly rare, we’re glad you are one of them. It changes zippo from what I said. It’s an incredibly hostile,place inherently towards the man. Further you had no kids which could not be turned into a long term cash cow for her. You also had a short marriage which works in your favor, the longer you are married the more a guy is screwed by the cpurts in terms of division of assets, alimony length and amount. When you don’t have a lot of assets family court can discover and pillage, they will spend less time on you because the pickings are slim. They weren’t in your favor for any other reason than you were not a big target for them and because of the short length of the marriage. Otherwise you’d have been skewered like any other guy.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Sky-OParticipant 18936]

I lived in a state where when there are no children involved in a divorce and both parties agree on everything from mediation:

The court does not get involved in any aspect of a divorce aside from a judge reviewing the agreement that both parties agreed to (with both parties having attorneys) then the judge signs off on it.

Mediation was 4 hours and 15 minutes on a Monday. (It was June 6th that year)

Neither one of us had to ever walk into a courtroom. Everything was filed by our attorneys.

Final divorce decree was signed by a judge and issued 90 days later on September 6th of that year.

I was laying on a beach in Cabo with an Alaska Airlines flight attendant for ten days during the separation period.

The key for me during the divorce was to make my ex think she was in control, act like I was devastated and wanted to “work things out” and appear to be lost and broken.

Her own ego caused her to think she was winning and leaving me.

Psy•Ops and tactical supremacy.

Sun Tzu – The Art of War
Chapter 8

“When on surrounded ground, plot. When on deadly ground, fight”

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

Family court is stacked against a man. If you expect to succeed you have to plan well before your divorce. You have to prove your role with the children if there are any. You have to change the diapers and take the kids for walks. You need a psychologist if she’s nuts and document you were working on your relationship and she never complained about controlling behavior or DV.

I kept every email my ex sent me for 4 years and printed them all out and used them against her in court. They all said “Can you take the kid because I’m off Island hopping with Mr. Moneybags.

Not only did the judge not let her move my son out of state, they gave her more time with him so she couldn’t travel all over the world. She hated it and left 10 months later.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[Sky-OParticipant 18936]

Puffin Stuff wrote:

If you expect to succeed you have to plan well before your divorce.

I planned well before the marriage.

Made sure I had one that was as dumb as a box of rocks. Like fcking her though.

(And, no. Women do not immediately start growing new brain cells and become more intelligent once a divorce starts. At least my ex-wife didn’t)

And from day one OF THE MARRIAGE, I was planning for an eventual divorce. Now that might not make sense but I consider jumping out of planes to be a hobby and most people don’t think that makes sense.

Anyway. Maintained a PO Box from day one for any mail related to MY assets that she didn’t need to know about. I acted dumb throughout the marriage like I didn’t understand money.

Even at the end, she didn’t even have what would have been over half of her give support on board since I maintained a great relationship with her family on her dad’s side throughout the marriage. I was on a fishing trip with HER father a week after papers were filed and we were separated.

And as always. Let her feel like she was in control during the entire process and it fed her ego and caused her to get careless on her calculations.

I’m laughing right now while recapping on everything. From leaving Starbuck’s cards I her car outside my house DURING the divorce.

To the night, I just wanted to see how dumb she was and I called her (after she moved out) and told her to put her phone on speaker because I had been practicing a song on my guitar that I wanted to play for her to let her know how I felt. She seemed irritated and wanted to hang up but I insisted.

And I placed my phone on my desk. Picked up my acoustic guitar, started the first few chords and. . .

“We both lie silent and still in the dead of the night. . .”

When I was done, I grabbed my phone and she said that I needed to get help and see a counselor.

Which was perfect.

Because as long as she thought I was broken and losing it, I would be able to continue to go tactical and run the situation.

[StealthParticipant 5330]

Puffin Stuff wrote:

Family court is stacked against a man. If you expect to succeed you have to plan well before your divorce. You have to prove your role with the children if there are any. You have to change the diapers and take the kids for walks. You need a psychologist if she’s nuts and document you were working on your relationship and she never complained about controlling behavior or DV.
I kept every email my ex sent me for 4 years and printed them all out and used them against her in court. They all said “Can you take the kid because I’m off Island hopping with Mr. Moneybags.
Not only did the judge not let her move my son out of state, they gave her more time with him so she couldn’t travel all over the world. She hated it and left 10 months later.

This reminds me women don’t really want the things they get in divorce. It’s the “getting” they’re after.

"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

[MonkParticipant 16984]

Stealth wrote:

This reminds me women don’t really want the things they get in divorce. It’s the “getting” they’re after.

Wimmin are spiteful, whereas a man is rarely so – spiteful men are usually feminised manginas.

They do like the money, but a lot of it is certainly ‘dog in the manger’. The dog can’t eat the hay, but won’t let the horse have it.

[Knights Templar RisingParticipant 5106]

Every family Court judge needs to be sent to the gulag, where they can prove to they are not in cahoots with the Leftist Cucks. Most of them are gynocentric scumbags, so maybe 25% of the judges will be returned to their posts…the rest will be put to hard physical labor. Ah, one can only dream!

Sovereignty above all else.

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

Sky-O wrote:

But family courts saved my life. At a young age, I witnessed the total financial devastation that family courts had on the lives of older men

Broken Window Theory.

Sky-O wrote:

The court does not get involved in any aspect of a divorce aside from a judge reviewing the agreement that both parties agreed to (with both parties having attorneys) then the judge signs off on it.

Why does a contract signed by both parties need a judge’s signature? Rental agreements don’t. Car purchases don’t. Employment contracts don’t. Loans don’t.

Think about it.

Because government is nothing more than the sex police and slave-masters. That is all government is. Goverment is a sex mafia.

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