False equivalencies – They need to end

[Zoom66Participant 57]

What gets under my skin more than anything… And I mean, the type of itch that won’t go away. The herpes prodromal symptom of annoying…

Too many false equivalencies attempting to relate male issues to feminism, and in particular, MGTOW/MRA radical feminism. It’s getting out of hand, and if it wasn’t a clear propaganda effort, I would mildly brush it off.

Now just since we’re clear, no this isn’t a new concept. It’s been around. The problem is, with MGTOW and MRA gaining ground, the opposition has taken to more tooth grinding while in damage control mode. The false equivalency debate strategy is nothing more than yet another channel to shame men. Yes boys, you heard it. As if the plight of dealing with a pro-feminist society isn’t bad enough, the feminists and charlatans resort to the suave motion of using feminism as a suicide vest in rare cases; ie: equating it to Men’s movements if the male in the room is making an excellent case of how horrible feminism actually is, the strategist on the losing end will abandon their feminist loyalty in the desperate attempt to prove that men’s movements are JUST AS BAD as feminism. When ours is good yours isn’t as good, but when ours is bad yours is just as bad. Oh the irony of female privilege…

The reason why this debate pit is so effective is the following (and I think I have it figured out.) It relies on the principal of “the difficult to explain tangent.” What is casted as a simply accusation, actually surmounts to a longer explanation. It takes a significant amount of time and adept delivery to breakdown the bits and pieces of why MGTOW or any male related movement is distinct from feminism to a skeptic. This tangent puts you on the defensive. You suddenly feel pressure reject years of common sense and fill the conversation with statistics, personal antidotes, etc in a crowd that likely thinks you’re a criminal before you open your mouth. And all in the midst of this, are the yawns, sarcastic rebuttals and raised eyebrows that follow along.

Men, this is the trap. They lure you in with an invite to educate them when they aren’t willing to be educated and mock you in the process. Stop falling for it.

Why is it so frustrating to me personally? (Even if you don’t even believe in either feminism or MGTOW.) At it’s core, men’s movements are very new on scene, whereas feminism has a long history of bulls~~~ and crazy antics to respond to. Men’s movements haven’t been around long enough to provide enough reference material to criticize. Secondly, there is clearly an establishment movement in the mix, and that is feminism. It’s in everything from Hollywood celebs, movies, the education system, the workplace, citcoms, comedy, commercials, advertising, relationship/sexual gateways & s~~~ tests and in general a core gauge in judging someone. It holds an important position in the political correct behemoth which none of men’s movements do. In fact, I’d even argue that in the short period that men’s movements were around, progressive oppositions have nearly associated them with misogyny and I use popular events as examples of this; most notably the MRA rally in Canada which instilled the yell “MRA go Away!” Ummm… How do you tell someone to go away when the movement was so new and has barely reached mainstream awareness. Yes, the opposition struck THAT early and THAT aggressively. All things equal, feminism and philosophies like MGTOW are not anything alike.

But enough about my thoughts… Why is this important?

Well what’s not important is the women who create these false equivalencies. Standard MGTOW interventions apply. Ignore, walk away and opt out of their feminist aerospace before you get accused of “raping” her mind. The time to debate with feminists have long since passed. I would barely consider engaging in debate with one that shows genuine curiosity… BARELY.

Males (many of whom fall in the category of fence-riders.) I feel it is somewhat our duty to show them the door. But again, maybe not. Why do they even do this? You’d think their frustrations would immediately see these movements as at the very least safe havens of free speech and punishment free advice… The brainwashing is that strong gentlemen. Most men are trained to be white knights rather than born them. For these men, I’d like to think there is an easy way to differentiate what MGTOW is to feminism without grabbing at the repetitive talking points of marriage and unfair laws. Is there even a point to trying with the men? They may be too far gone as well.

Anyways, just had to vent because God knows this is one of the last places one can do so.

[STORMParticipant 738]

For me, MGTOW is not something I need to go public with, rather it’s something I keep to myself. When the women at work wonder why A perfectly healthy, decent looking male, would ignore the young women even when they go out of their way to get to know me … I maintain silence, let them keep wondering. I conceal the fact I am MGTOW because I know exactly what their response would be to MGTOW.

So rather than getting in an endless debate with them, that will only make them hate me. I just focus on my work, and leave them with a question mark in their mind.

It’s not my job to get them to understand, because I am indeed going MY OWN way, and do not need or want their approval, understanding, or attention.

If we listen to a female at all, It's no longer to find out if they're crazy, we know they're crazy, It's to find out what flavor.

[Dr. SableParticipant 1064]

Zoom66 wrote:

False equivalencies – They need to end

When I hear or read about it I just laugh. Flogging a dead horse once or twice is bad enough so why bother.
You can’t stop it just like you can’t stop a fart.

Zoom66 wrote:

MRA gaining ground

Since when ?
Since they became more PC and allowed women to control what they say ?

Zero Tolerance

[Anonymous 42]

False equivalencies – They need to end.

Feminists have been sawing the table legs of society for 50+ years, now all of society must kneel at the shaky table top now sitting on the ground, or stand up and walk away. I chose to walk away 35 years down feminism’s path to destruction, that was 19 years ago and things have only gotten much MUCH MUCH WORSE!!! .

Zoom66 wrote:

the opposition has taken to more tooth grinding while in damage control mode.

Typical narcissistic female hive mentality, they resort to biting

And bite they do!

We’re documenting EVERYTHING, every little bite, scratch, and claw! We’re showing the worlds men how they’re being used in a cycle of madness and carelessly thrown away, This is woman’s world now, men are mercilessly separated from their families, villeinized, extracted for their wealth, then heartlessly thrown away.

Let them have their tantrum, say their s~~~, stir their pot, run their program, and go apes~~~ nuts, it still won’t change a thing, men have had enough of this f~~~ing lunacy, we’re 50+ years past TIME TO WALK AWAY.

So you ladies out there ask “where are all the good men?”.

I’ll tell you; they’re arresting themselves under logic and understanding, they’re climbing down the rotted timbers of the 50 year old rollercoaster to hell!

You ladies are in charge now, you took over societies machinery and modified it LONG AGO. She’s YOUR BABY NOW! You’re free to take it’s life, anytime you want, because to me she’s already dead…

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

Zoom66 wrote:

Too many false equivalencies attempting to relate male issues to feminism

Because women want to keep the focus on them. Oh sure, men have problems, and they will be solved with feminism. It keeps the ball in their court. But it doesn’t really work, there’s a reason feminism has become such a touchy word. Because these same people that promote it are the ones that focus only on female issues, and perpetuate their s~~~ agenda.

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

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