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[jambearParticipant 282]

My best friends 1 year anniversary is coming up at the end of this month.  And I feel like a bit of a jackass. I always had a personal philosophy and look that kept me away from relationships but it never occurred to me to help my friends by teaching them said philosophy. I did not discover MGTOW till a few months ago so I was unable to do anything about his marriage.

A bit of background on my friend. He is a blue pill man and is pussy whipped. I have known him for 12 years and in all that time he was never out of a relationship for more then a month. Other then his constant need for a woman he is the best friend a guy could ask for. When I told him I was done with woman, he did not shame me but instead gave me support and encouragement to pursue what made me happy. Over all a great guy.

When he finally proposed to his girlfriend I was happy for him if not worried about him. I was always indifferent to his wife. She is your standard female with no interests or anything interesting about her, with above average looks. I did not know how dangerous she is until I found MGTOW though. She is insanely manipulative and irrational. I see that he is unhappy but brushes it off and says that is married life.

I honestly do not know what to do? The time to keep her claws out of him has come and gone. I see now that she is going to take him to the cleaners. If I tell him out right what I see he will not listen. What can I do?

[Deus Ex MachinaParticipant 1068]

@jambear

Not much you can do, it’s their choice and the chemicals in their Brain that wont allow them to see what’s truly going on. It’s interesting to look at a relationship of our friends, then look at it again with a new pair of MGTOW eyes, it’s as if you see a Tidal Wave coming, you’re telling everyone it’s coming, and they just look at like you’re some kind of an idiot. All the signs are there, He doesn’t see the huge red flags you see, he doesn’t see the potential for disaster.

I’ve tried numerous times to tell friends about their fiancee’s or girlfriends, one of my buddies even wanted to get into a fist fight with me because of things I pointed out that were bad on her part.

 

 

 

"If You have the Tooth of a Whale, You must have the Whale's Jaw to hold it". (i.e. One Must have the right qualifications for leadership) -Hawaiian Proverb

[jambearParticipant 282]

I was kinda of hoping there was something to be done T.T

I forgot to mention that I am keeping a close eye on her. I am fairly confident she used to ride the c~~~ carousal so her likely hood of cheating should be fairly high. I am trying to find evidence of this before they have children.

[Total LeeParticipant 1573]

I don’t know how anyone can find this funny, but a co-worker sent it to me with a hundred “LOL”s attached. Every indication the husband/groom is a laughing stock to everyone, and the last to be clued in.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10154636606720713

[RoyDalParticipant]

I know several married couples like jambear describes. They have instructed me to “man up” and get married.

Did they have a candidate in mind, I asked? No, they expect me to hunt one up on my own.

What is in it for me? How does marriage to this as yet unmet female make my life better? They change the subject at this point, no answer.

Women, bah!! Phooey on marriage!

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Rock St.EddieParticipant 129]

I know several married couples like jambear describes. They have instructed me to “man up” and get married.

Misery loves company. It’s not just a cliché.

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

It always amuses me when someone tells you that you better get married before you get much older, when they never actually ask you if you are currently happy the way you are and what your plans for the future might be. They just say “get married, you don’t want to be like so and so, at 60 with no family and living by yourself”. It’s like what the f~~~ business is it of yours how I choose to spend my days? Maybe being 60 without a family and flying solo is EXACTLY where I want to be someday. And it’s always married women that tell you this because they are oblivious to the fact that at least half of them have a husband who is sick of putting up with their bulls~~~ and wants out.

The best reply I can think of is “If I had to spend the rest of my life legally bound to someone like you I’d rather kill myself.”

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.

[Jim01Participant 6678]

Chaos I am currently getting the “when are you going to get yourself a girlfriend” line from my family over and over. It doesn’t matter how many times I point out how much I love having my own place with my own rules, my own money and more own free time..in short being completely free when not at work

Even if I sometimes think about getting a girlfriend I think about all the bulls~~~ texting and phoning I have to do and can’t be bothered, the less time I will have on my xbox and to watch football. Plus I have a habit of watching the same film for a few weekends in a row if I am liking it (currently doing that with the Alien films as I am into the Alien Isolation game at the mo) and if I had a girlfriend I couldn’t do that or eat the s~~~ I do at the moment as I would be broke.

No one gets it even if you spell it out to them

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Oh yeah I love that one.

“When are you gonna get yourself a girlfriend?”

Ever notice how they phrase the question like she is some kind of OBJECT?
Like a girlfriend is a possession.

“When are you gonna get yourself a better car?”
“When are you gonna get yourself a lawn mower?”
“When are you gonna get yourself a bigger TV?”

Getting a girlfriend is easy. It’s getting rid of them that’s hard. When any man figures out to get a woman to LEAVE without requiring a bribe or payment, please let me know.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[jambearParticipant 282]

@KeyMaster

Pfft that is easy enough. Fake your own death then leave everything to your dog, then wear a dog costume and impersonate your dog for the rest of your life. What? Still easier then getting divorced. >.>

[PlatoParticipant 48]

I honestly do not know what to do? The time to keep her claws out of him has come and gone. I see now that she is going to take him to the cleaners. If I tell him out right what I see he will not listen. What can I do?

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Get a second mortgage aka a Home Equity Loan, put the cash away.  Sell the cars if worth money and buy new ones on credit/lease.  Hide your investments, as it cost lots of lawyer money to find them, and most women wont go for the extra.  Get a friend to sign a note saying you borrowed 100K at 5%/year.  Cash in your 401k’s and retirement.  Take it all out in $100 bills, and/or, convert to/buy, gold/silver.

 

 

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Pfft that is easy enough. Fake your own death then leave everything to your dog, then wear a dog costume and impersonate your dog for the rest of your life.

Nice one! Did you write that? Brilliant.

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@plato nice plan, man! You’ve been through this before?

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[PlatoParticipant 48]

It always amuses me when someone tells you that you better get married before you get much older, when they never actually ask you if you are currently happy the way you are and what your plans for the future might be. They just say “get married, you don’t want to be like so and so, at 60 with no family and living by yourself”.

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Both sexes want a “guaranteed hookup” for as long as possible.  Make it religious, not contractual.

[jambearParticipant 282]

@keymaster

Not sure if I made that up or if I corrupted someones joke.

[Big Viking Chef BVCParticipant 1286]

Help!!!  I have a buddy that just announced his engagement.  He is not familiar with MGTOW.  The bride to be is only 40, and has a 16 year old daughter from a previous marriage.  Her ex husband committed suicide after they broke up.  My buddy is 45 and highly paid in his profession, with no kids of his own.  I don’t think that she is pregnant.

Is there an existing forum discussion on what I can do or say to him to change his mind, or does anyone have any ideas?  Any help is appreciated.

BVC

Swallow this RED PILL ===> Men will lay down their lives for their brothers, their women and their children. This makes Men useful as slaves. Women will lay down their lives for ONLY their children. To expect more from women is just a FANTASY created by society and reinforced by the unconditional love that we experienced from our Mothers. The key to freedom is the understanding that the woman you meet is not going to fantastically love you like your Mother did. If you buy into the fantasy, then she is your new master. If you do not buy into the fantasy, then she is nothing, and you retain your freedom.

[JediTimParticipant 50]

@Bigvikingchef – repost under its own thread and you might be able to boost your question more effectively.

[Big Viking Chef BVCParticipant 1286]

Thanks JediTim, I will do that.

BVC

 

Swallow this RED PILL ===> Men will lay down their lives for their brothers, their women and their children. This makes Men useful as slaves. Women will lay down their lives for ONLY their children. To expect more from women is just a FANTASY created by society and reinforced by the unconditional love that we experienced from our Mothers. The key to freedom is the understanding that the woman you meet is not going to fantastically love you like your Mother did. If you buy into the fantasy, then she is your new master. If you do not buy into the fantasy, then she is nothing, and you retain your freedom.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Hi Tim. Just saw this.

MGTOW is more of a calling and you definitely can’t teach it to anyone.

But you can always have your buddy speak to a divorce attorney. Realize the reality of signing a marriage contract is deliberately HIDDEN from men…. but isn’t her ex-husband committing SUICIDE enough????

Save a male and stop a wedding.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[John DoeParticipant 743]

You cannot save anyone and no one can save you.  MGTOW just happens.

I can relate to his experiences prior to him being married, not the marriage itself.

In regards to my personal MGTOW experiences:

The older I get the more my family, begin/began to push the marriage issue on me.  Even at times trying to shame me into a relationship.  Every time I go out somewhere I am anxiously asked where I am going as if I am going on a date.  Father is always trying to push idea of dating an Amish girl on me.  I just state my opinions, they get ruffled up.  Conversation ends.  However, over time family who once used “shaming” language on me started to see my perspectives.  Eventually I just stare through people when they bring it up.

You have to remember all the outside influences that your friend is receiving beside you.  For the one redpill voice whispering to him to do one thing there are 10 bluepill voices screaming at him to do another.

My point is, environmental factors you do not even know about are affecting your friend’s thinking.  The best thing I think is to keep in touch with him.

That’s my 2 cents.

 

[SamMGTOWParticipant 95]

Best piece of versatile advice I can give is to have full CONTROL over your money and resources. Advertising your net worth to the government and putting it on display for all the gold digging whores to salivate over is not going to end well for you. Its a whole lot easier for gynocentric systems to legally rob you when you have 10 grand sitting in your chequing account. Save your money, but don’t put it in the bank. If it makes you feel comfortable and you feel you have to, use a safety deposit box. Always create a net to fall back on, you never know when you might need it. Just make sure nobody else knows about it, because that is when the net cushioning your fall turns from rope into string.

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