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Hey everyone,
A little bit about myself, I’m a 20yr male in QLD, Australia. I’ve been in IT for 3.5 years, have recently moved into the security equipment industry, I work for myself among two other part-time casual jobs and have attempted 4 business ventures since I was 18; two of which are still keeping money flowing occasionally and one of which I’m actively building. I love business and the lifestyle & challenges it presents.
Up until I found this forum I genuinely thought there was something wrong with me. I had semi-recently broken up with a girlfriend of two years who I was very much in love with. She was my first love, very narcissistic, unstable, intoxicating and I was hooked. I shared everything I had with her, gave her a place to stay, pretty much loved her unconditionally, eventually gave her royal treatment and believed every word that came out of her mouth. I believed at the time that she would reciprocate, in the beginning of the relationship she would talk of marriage and future plans and I had a proposal date and everything planned (which she knew of). I pretty much trusted her because I didn’t expect anything deceitful out of her. Then she got a job in administration, started getting attention from a co-worker and holy f~~~. She eventually cheated on me, which threw me into an absolute headf~~~. She gave the excuse that ‘he was there for her’ and ‘she was only young’. Bearing in mind she had told me early on that she needed me to be happy and always carried on about how glad she was to have me, she wanted to spend her live with me, etc. I’m sure many other MGTOW on here have heard the same BS.
Anyway fast forward a few months I was struggling to come to terms with everything, and how she could go a complete 180 against everything she said to me. I was blaming myself, convinced that I needed to improve myself and that there was something wrong with me; I bought into every word of her nonsense, even post-breakup. Things eventually calm down and I get back on track with my life, hoping that a decent girl is out there, one who understands traditional values. After reading through a trove of stories online and eventually discovering this forum, I’m glad to say that I don’t feel anything is wrong with me anymore, and I don’t feel a desire to get married or have kids, I see so many horror stories and such a major cultural shift in values that it doesn’t seem worth it. Not for pussy, s~~~; money can be used to get it when I want it anyway.
I think it’s interesting to see just how much our culture has degraded in the space of a few decades. I grew up on a rural station (330,000ac) which was very much family oriented and traditional and that’s where I drew my understanding of relationships from. Dad worked and mum kept the house clean, cooked, looked after us kids, kept the vegetable garden and supported dad. There was no evident constant desire for ‘more’ or not being satisfied with what they had; they kept their word and stood by each other and fortunately still do to this day. I don’t see that much anymore, especially not with my generation. It’s a shame really, I think we saw the peak of our cultural values right before the age of feminism and entitlement; it’s downhill from here. I’ve been reading across this forum, and aside from having a great laugh at how f~~~ed our current culture is, mostly everything I read rings true to my life. I can’t find one woman who isn’t s~~~-testing, picking at, manipulating, pushing or complaining to their partners. It’s crazy, I can’t help but notice it now either. The blokes either give in and bend over (I’ve been there) or they keep on fighting and carry the burden.
I’m glad this forum exists, it’s exactly what’s needed and it’s nice to know that none of us are alone, fingers crossed the MTGOW movement grows; I feel like it will.
Dave
He who can master the present, can conquer anything.
G’Day David,
Mate, your ex is at that age ALL Aussie women are out there doing this, it’s rife and the party scene. You only need to flick through Facebook to see enough selfies of girls, and I say girls because they aren’t women yet, to understand the culture.
I wish I had something like MGTOW when I was your age. You are so far ahead of the game it’s not funny.
I will bet you a bottle of beer though (ok maybe a Bundy since your’e a Queensland country guy), and I guarantee it, she will boomerang back around the 3 year mark. Mark my words, it ALWAYS happens, it’s happened to me every single time and i verily believe some other members here will concur.
The only advise I can pass on, if you will allow me is this, please don’t become one of these typical Gen Y males who currently in Australia cover themselves in tattoos, take enough steroids to kill a race horse to pump weights to impress girls at music festivals whilst poppy ICE, Ecstacy or Cocaine. Work hard, invest and build a portfolio be it equities, businesses or real estate because by the time you hit 30 y/o you will be set for life and you ex will be a distant memory.
Take care
Anonymous9Hi Dave,
Welcome and I agree with DeepInThought. She will come back after finding out the grass isn’t greener. Mine did after 2 years. She came up to me in the bar and grabbed me by the arm and put her head on my shoulder. WTF? I spent the better part of 2 years grieving but growing. That was the most powerful NO I have ever uttered.
GotSmart,
Damn straight…!
Anonymous42Hey Dave, Your story struck me, I just realized exactly how much my life was affected by feminism, and how it has this society paranoid at the slightest thing , I mean, it’s like the insanity of these women are woven into everything we see. The high speed bums rush politics. Everything’s such an exaggerated emergency, they scare the female intellect into voting their way, the feminist way. Government’s (the hive) have a feminist overtone with laws supporting the destruction of the family, and forcing men to pay for it by penalty of law. This new generation of women have a deep instilled resentment of men, it got this way by the endless marching of feminism since the 1960’s, that’s a long time for something to fester. It’s become a geo-political-mono-governmental feminist mandated hive. They think they have the “right” to control every aspect of your life! Including a man’s family! Simply by granting the woman everything she wants! A safety net to catch her and give her a place to live, feed her, cloth her; then force the men to pay for it through progressive laws and government mandates. The only logical thing to do at this point is MGTOW! Thanks for joining, your story was well received and very much understood….WELCOME!
Hi Davidkneipp, welcome! I feel a similar sense of relief as well from finding this site as I was sure I was the one with the problem and I had to fix it. Well thanks to this site I dropped the burden of thinking I was wrong. I’ve been feeling better and better about life ever since I joined. It’s the community and the stories that help, the videos that get posted have never let me down.
May the Force Be With You
Hello David, and welcome very much.
You’ve already read enough to know that you’re not the only Man out there who accepts ALL the burden of responsibility – even when he didn’t do anything wrong. Too many men blame and are extremely hard on themselves, but MGTOW is the oasis that permits you to FINALLY shed that heavy baggage – almost overnight – knowing you’re not the first and only. What a relief to finally kick your shoes off and learn you’ve been carrying something you didn’t even need. I know the feeling.
Your introduction is far from unique and that’s a GOOD thing. Some guys think telling their similar story is redundant, but it’s precisely that which adds the real value and affirms it for many. How amazing is it that you (and we) can be separated by continents, oceans – by very different lives, age groups, education, up-bringing, training and geography – and read another man’s personal life that reads like you wrote it yourself. It’s mind-blowing really.
Happy to hear you acquired some personal peace here and the other gents can all know MGTOW is not even slightly odd – but quite SENSIBLE.
I can’t find one woman who isn’t s~~~-testing, picking at, manipulating, pushing or complaining to their partners. It’s crazy, I can’t help but notice it now either.
S~~~-testing / manipulations (etc) was recently advertized on Bloomberg not a couple of months ago. I just happened to come upon it one morning…..
http://video.glamour.com/watch/the-single-life-things-girls-say-to-test-men
But guess what. These women who play that s~~~ are FAR from knowing what they are doing. This is exactly the same girl, eating ice cream on the floor next to the garbage can – alone with her Cat on a Friday night and no man is calling. Pouting because no man wants to date her. And she would even be considered “attractive”.
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All posing and dressed up thinking they are “fabulous” when they are anything but. So if you ever thought you “lost” something by not marrying her, you can throw yourself a little party now, because these women are not “winning”. It’s an act. They have no business s~~~-testing any one, because they are failures themselves.
You lost nothing. You didn’t “fail” her s~~~ tests.
You’ve won, and saved yourself a s~~~ tonne of misery.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.@keymaster – “You’ve already read enough to know that you’re not the only Man out there who accepts ALL the burden of responsibility – even when he didn’t do anything wrong. Too many men blame and are extremely hard on themselves…”
This really resonated with me as I did exactly that for a long period of time, I genuinely thought I was broken, had major issues & unlovable, til my brother and psychologist at the time told me point blank. The aftermath of dating a sociopathic single mum!
Welcome to the site, David! This is one of the best terrific forums I’ve ever been to, and hopefully you realize the same!
Welcome to where men can be men, and where we can discuss anything without women involvement.
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