Ex-wife back to sh*t talking…

[ForeverDoneParticipant 2928]

OldBill wrote:

ForeverDone wrote:

The secret weapon? Simple. V-A-R. A voice activated recorder in her office, sewed into her purse, in her car and in the common area of my home.

And you got away with that?

You apparently don’t live in any jurisdiction I’m familiar with.

Well, yes. I am in security and surveillance. I know the NY laws pretty well. Plus, once has to prove I was the one who did it. Good luck. As in my own home and cars, only one person needs to know that they are being recorded. Office was a bit dicey, but I needed to know if she was cheating or not. If she was, I was going to go for an at-fault divorce due to adultery (still on the books in NY). It would had also been against her morality clause in her employment contract; which that would had been terminated as well.

DIVORCE IS WAR. We were no longer allies, we were allies vs. axis powers. Like the axis powers, she lost due to INTEL. 🙂

[ForeverDoneParticipant 2928]

Carnage wrote:

mgtow_taoist wrote:

You won mate, laugh at the bitch.

Smile you lucky f~~~er.

Smile.

No one wins in divorce. It costs too much. Though, all I wanted was my freedom. She decided to make it into a war. Yea, women are logical.

[ForeverDoneParticipant 2928]

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

I see this with every woman I know.

They need to be able to hate someone and put all their crap on that person. They need a face to focus the hate and rage onto.

My next door neighbor crazy cat lady bitch does it, and so does every woman I know. It gives them a real object to blame. It has to be someone else, a person. Hell many use Trump now.

But the rage and hate need to be personified because that is how the rationalization hamster works best, when it can assign blame to another actual person. Most often its a guy.

And they do this for all their problems because being that be rationalization hamster uses this as an spillway/main line, it doesnt matter what you blame him for, its all irrational hate transfer, so they can just take ALL the blame for everything wrong in their lives.

Dammit i have to write a f~~~ing book on this stuff.

If words and looks could kill. She is still quite angry. In her first divorce, she received around 65k. In mine, she was served with legal bills of over 15k and moving/relocating bills of over 10k. I guess she has a right to be a bit upset. Again, she was given an out to sign a piece of paper at the grand old cost of ZERO. She choice to decline my olive branch. I just said, fine, we’ll do it the hard way..

[ForeverDoneParticipant 2928]

XSDBS wrote:

I offer this to think about:
When someone bad-mouths their ex, it says nothing about their ex, but EVERYTHING about themselves…

So true. Never said anything negative about her to anyone. Yet, when I wasn’t around, as the VAR’s proved, completely different person. I did this, that and the other thing. Even when the person she was talking to defended me, she then changed her tune to worse things that never even happened.

I will never understand how the female mind works; if it truly works at all. Sometimes, I just think they are on autopilot.

[BadgerParticipant 2277]

Doc wrote:

You control her mind.
Think about it. Think about it.
Or are you letting her control yours. Think think think.

This ancient Chinese wisdom was written thousands of years ago by Lao Tse in the Tao The Ching:

(If you) Care about what other people think (about you) and you will always be their prisoner.”

You stopped being her slave, now stop being her prisoner.

[OldBillParticipant]

ForeverDone wrote:

I know the NY laws pretty well

Then you know you broke the law. Whether or not that law or your actions were justified is besides the point. If it had been known, the fact that you broke the law would have settled the divorce entirely in her favor.

Plus, once has to prove I was the one who did it. Good luck.

She finds a “bug” in her office and PURSE. She’s divorcing a man who works in security and surveillance. Even Barney Fife can add up two and two.

Office was a bit dicey…

Not “dicey”, illegal. And bugging her purse was insane.

You got away with it thanks to your specialized knowledge and a huge amount of luck. Bragging about it here in an open forum is asking for trouble. Presenting it here as a option for men without your experience is unconscionable.

DIVORCE IS WAR.

Yes it is. I’ve fought in shooting wars and those people who rely on luck are usually the ones who die first.

You were incredibly lucky. Depending on the number of devices and the amount of material recorded, what you did may have been a felony. The fact that you were lucky enough not to get caught doesn’t mean your choices were smart or that they should be copied by others.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[ForeverDoneParticipant 2928]

OldBill wrote:

ForeverDone wrote:

I know the NY laws pretty well

Then you know you broke the law. Whether or not that law or your actions were justified is besides the point. If it had been known, the fact that you broke the law would have settled the divorce entirely in her favor.

Plus, once has to prove I was the one who did it. Good luck.

She finds a “bug” in her office and PURSE. She’s divorcing a man who works in security and surveillance. Even Barney Fife can add up two and two.

Office was a bit dicey…

Not “dicey”, illegal. And bugging her purse was insane.

You got away with it thanks to your specialized knowledge and a huge amount of luck. Bragging about it here in an open forum is asking for trouble. Presenting it here as a option for men without your experience is unconscionable.

DIVORCE IS WAR.

Yes it is. I’ve fought in shooting wars and those people who rely on luck are usually the ones who die first.

You were incredibly lucky. Depending on the number of devices and the amount of material recorded, what you did may have been a felony. The fact that you were lucky enough not to get caught doesn’t mean your choices were smart or that they should be copied by others.

This was done PRIOR to any notion of divorce with the approval of my attorney; one of the best ranked in NYC. When you get your law license in NY, we can talk. It’s done all the time. Problem is, many due it during divorce, not prior. And you are incorrect about losing, it was an uncontested divorce. There was no winner or loser. I was the plaintiff though. I do not and did not do anything without prior consent from my legal counsel. You may think what you may, however, it was done and I would do it again; though, I will never marry again, so this is a mute issue. Divorce was granted and it cannot be opened again in NY. Again, mute issue.

[MonkParticipant 16988]

ForeverDone wrote:

DIVORCE IS WAR.

This.

He might think that it’s some sort of game in which he can score points and claim the moral high ground, but she knows that’s all crap.

Her objective is to destroy him. She will lie, cheat, steal and betray without compunction.

It’s WAR.

[OldBillParticipant]

ForeverDone wrote:

This was done PRIOR to any notion of divorce with the approval of my attorney…

Your attorney said you could legally bug your wife’s purse?

Okay. Whatever.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[ForeverDoneParticipant 2928]

OldBill wrote:

ForeverDone wrote:

This was done PRIOR to any notion of divorce with the approval of my attorney…

Your attorney said you could legally bug your wife’s purse?

Okay. Whatever.

Never said legally. He didn’t stop me. All is fair in love and war. Divorce is war. Not sure if you’ve been divorced, but it’s not pretty. They rarely play by the rules, heck if I am.

I had a lot to lose. With that said, all options were on the table. If you would had done differently, kudos to you.

Perhaps this video might make it a bit clearer:

[OldBillParticipant]

ForeverDone wrote:

Never said legally. He didn’t stop me.

Now you’re changing your story.

Your first wrote…

with the approval of my attorney.

… which implies he gave his active consent.

Now you’re claiming all he did was not stop you.

Those are two very different things. What’s more, that waffling throws some suspicion on your claims.

You were able to legally and illegally bug your wife. You got away with that thanks to, one, your alleged professional knowledge and, two, a metric s~~~ ton of luck. Among other things, the fact that she supposedly didn’t realize her purse was bugged is mind boggling while the question of just how you collected what the bugs recorded remains murky.

I’ll stick with my original appraisal. If what you claimed happened actually happened, you were insanely lucky. Even remotely suggesting that other men planning for divorce attempt even a fraction of what you claim to have done unconscionable.

Divorce is war, that is true. However, taking insane risks in divorce or war is nothing more than a way to ensure that you lose.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[ForeverDoneParticipant 2928]

I didn’t change anything. Never said it was legal, just said approval. You can believe what you want to believe.

[OldBillParticipant]

ForeverDone wrote:

I didn’t change anything.

Yes you did.

Never said it was legal, just said approval.

You said your lawyer approved it. Which implies they did so in their professional capacity. You then walked that claim back to say all he did was not stop you.

If I said that my doctor approved something, I’d be implying they did so in a professional capacity. The same holds true with any other profession. You either misspoke or you lied.

You can believe what you want to believe.

And I don’t believe you.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[ForeverDoneParticipant 2928]

Free country. You can believe whatever you wish. Best wishes to you.

[bladeParticipant]

ForeverDone wrote:

will never understand how the female mind works; if it truly works at all. Sometimes, I just think they are on autopilot.

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[PuniShredderParticipant 2268]

I don’t blame you for using dirty tactics to beat the c~~~ in an overwhelmingly rigged system against men. Sorry, the “law” argument is void here as it’s a tool primarily used in this theatre to royally f~~~ men. I’d do what the OP did and MUCH MUCH worse. NFG. 🖕🏿👴🏿🖕🏿

Be professional be polite but always have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

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