Evo Psych is hamster wheel spinning

[mgtowSAParticipant 670]

Many mgtow youtube channels and even forums such as this one have explained the evolutionary psychological basis for male female behaviour. For our purposes as mgtow, these explanations have basically argued that femtard hypergamy is a female biological imperative. Similarly we as men are driven by our biological imperative to procreate and that accounts for our lack of judgement when it comes to sex.

Now don’t get me wrong. I agree with evo psych in the sense that the human animal is indeed influenced by biological imperatives designed to ensure its survival as a species.

However, as is typical of the scientific dictatorship, many of these theories are actually justifications for the s~~~ show that have become male female relations and society. Hypergamy and simpism explained away as women and men being influenced by their biological imperatives is scientific hamstering that ignores a crucial aspect: agency or the ability of choice.

Our unique ability to use reason and choice to override base biological imperatives is what separates us from other animal species. This is not to deny that biology does affect our choices and subsequently our behaviours, but it is not the be all and end all. We have agency.

This is why I get hot under the collar when femtard behaviour is dismissed as “oh she’s only following het biological imperative, it’s women’s nature to do that”, as if they have no choice in the matter.

If all that mattered was the biological imperative, humans would never have evolved into cultures and societies governed by laws and rules that directly affect behaviour. Since these laws and rules are now called oppressive and patriarchal, it is no surprise that evo psych is now also used to justify not only bad behaviour but destructive behaviour as well.

Hypergamy and simpism are behaviours influenced by biology but are reinforced and perpetuated by choice.

[trader1913Participant 1577]

I find it funny that you are talking about scientific hamstering and then appealing to agency which is thoroughly debunked. Youve taken the mysticism of religion/philosophy/sociology and injected it into the scientific world; humans are not special snowflakes in the scientific world.

Robert Sapolsky explained it well; humans do not have agency with regards to important choices; but they do have agency with regards to novel choices like which colour shirt you are going to wear to work.

Ask any scientist that does work on human behaviour and they will tell you that the biology/culture distinction is sophistry. Culture is an extension of biology and is present in many intelligent animals (humans, chimpanzees, whales etc.). Culture and society isnt the result of an ethereal concept such as agency or choice; its the consequence of advanced mammalian evolution.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

in my perspective, the more a person let his primal instinct take over, the closer he/she is to a monkey.

Hipergamy and uncontrolled sex drive in men is a sign of lower individual evolution.

The closer you are to a monkey the less selft restraint you have.

Is this natural or induced?

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[Anonymous 38]

mgtowSA wrote:

This is why I get hot under the collar when femtard behaviour is dismissed as “oh she’s only following het biological imperative, it’s women’s nature to do that”, as if they have no choice in the matter.

Eventually you’ll stop getting hot under the collar because you no longer care. The reason you no longer care is that formulating rational arguments against idiots causes you stress and wastes your time.

The majority of people are living instinctually. In one sense that isn’t a problem because it allows the species to keep on, however in another sense it limits our rate of progression. If only people could rise above their base instincts, we could potentially solve many of our problems. But it is wishful thinking and the majority will always be like animals. MGTOW are thinking men, as Barbarossa once said. That puts us in the awakened minority.

Just stop arguing with feminists even in your head, it’s not good for you man. It’s a black hole!

[Cú ChulainnParticipant 3910]

I thought feminists were all for the ‘blank slate’ theory and very much anti-EP.

[AttonParticipant]

One might have the capacity to override biology that does not mean they will. Until such time as there exists a reason to do so and for women, there are no consequences for disgusting behavior. In some cases there are even rewards with act as positive reinforcement for such behaviors. This reinforcement must be removed before addressing these problems with become viable.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

mgtowSA wrote:

Similarly we as men are driven by our biological imperative to procreate and that accounts for our lack of judgement when it comes to sex.

That’s not actually what evolutionary psychology says. At least not correct evo psych.

The actual theory is based on the fact that sperm is cheap and unlimited while eggs are limited and expensive. Instead of any procreative “imperative” this actually permits men to have a more relaxed approach to procreation because our opportunities are not biologically limited like women are. It also permits males to be less selective in our sexual partners. A male can walk away from a bad pairing relatively unscathed – he has plenty more sperm to go around. This lack of selectivity can be confused for a “lack of judgement”, but it is not the same thing. Meanwhile women, with their limited egg supply, are evolved to have a much higher sexual drive than men while at the same time be much more selectively conservative due to the higher reproductive penalty for them from a bad pairing.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

Feminists believe we are all the result of environment. There is only social programming and that can be reversed because mommies know this about kids in a way men could never know. /s

Or, you could believe that Darwin and our feminists and imagine that we are the pinnacle of evolution. We have the hubris to think that a species as young as us, perhaps a few hundred years old, is the pinnacle.

Every animal has choice. Even the tiniest amoeba to the biggest bear we all have choice. I’m sure that bears know the difference between a freshly killed prey and a ripe one. The bear has a choice.

Do you think the mindless regular dude who wakes up and shaves, drinks some joe and then does an hour and a half commute without even focusing his eyes is acting on choice alone?

I don’t think so. He is trained like a rat in a maze.

We are mammals and are trapped in the cage of modern feminism. The walls are not real.

Go your own way out of the maze but get out.

Don’t become part of the femininasty experiment in destroying western civilization for the fun of it.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Puffin Stuff wrote:

Feminists believe we are all the result of environment.

Feminists believe whatever is in their current best interest to believe.

Feminists are inconstant selfish hypocrites.

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