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    Expelled under new policy, ex-Amherst College student files suit

    A lawsuit against Amherst College claims the plaintiff was falsely accused of rape, not given a fair investigation by the college, and denied justice

    n December 2013, Amherst College imposed its first major sanction under a new get-tough sexual misconduct policy, expelling a 21-year-old senior after a disciplinary board concluded that he had forced a female classmate to perform oral sex during an alcohol-infused encounter nearly two years earlier.

    In April 2014, however, the expelled student presented the college with new evidence — a series of text messages the woman sent to two other male students immediately after the alleged rape, according to a lawsuit. To one, a dorm counselor, she described the sexual encounter in language that suggested it was consensual and she wrote, “It’s pretty obvi [obvious] I wasn’t an innocent bystander.’’

    To the other student, she sent text messages inviting him over later that same night to “entertain” her — an invitation that resulted in a second sexual encounter, according to text messages and an affidavit by the male student. The accuser testified during the disciplinary hearing that she had texted a friend to come over after the alleged attack.

    In the 13 months since the expelled student obtained the texts and gave them to college officials, it appears Amherst has taken no public steps to revisit its decision to expel the student. On Friday, his lawyer, Max D. Stern, filed a lawsuit in US District Court in Springfield, arguing that the college is guilty of a miscarriage of justice against his client, who is identified as “John Doe.’’

    In the weeks after he was expelled and ordered to leave campus, Doe was alerted to the existence of the text messages and obtained copies of both sets of texts with the help of friends, according to Stern. The text messages are included in the lawsuit.

    Citing the text messages, Stern charged in his lawsuit that Amherst’s investigation of the episode by an outside lawyer was “grossly inadequate,’’ overlooking signs that Stern says would have cleared his client. What’s more, the lawsuit also asserts that the action taken against John Doe, who is Asian-American, is part of a pattern since 2013 in which the college has sanctioned only “male students of color’’ for sexual misconduct.

    Pete Mackey, the Amherst College spokesman, said in a statement that the college’s disciplinary process is consistent with federal requirements and is fair to all parties.

    “That process was followed in this case,” he said.

    “We are confident that the process the college followed was appropriate and that the court will conclude that the College’s process was fair,’’ Mackey said.

    His statement did not address a question from the Globe about whether the college is still confident that the decision was right. He did, however, say that the charge that only male students of color have been disciplined is “incorrect.”

    Doe’s accuser, who is identified in the lawsuit by the pseudonym Sandra Jones, did not respond to requests for comment.

    The lawsuit is also likely to further fuel an ongoing debate about the tough new standards on sexual assault adopted by colleges and universities under federal government pressure, standards that many legal scholars believe violate the rights of those accused of sexual misconduct.

    Under the standard ordered by the US Department of Education, Doe was judged guilty under a “preponderance of the evidence,’’ meaning the three-member disciplinary board — made up of officials from neighboring colleges — found it more likely than not that the allegation was true, said the letter to Doe expelling him. In the past, Amherst and other colleges had used a tougher standard of proof — clear and convincing evidence of guilt.

    Meanwhile, the expelled student is in academic and professional limbo. His transcript, which he would need to finish his degree or get a higher position, says he was expelled for disciplinary reasons, according to the lawsuit.

    Now 22, he was looking forward to a career that probably would have been enhanced by a degree from one of the country’s most prestigious liberal arts colleges

    For now, he said in an interview, he works at a small company where he started as an intern last year before getting his first promotion.

    His superiors wonder why he did not finish college. And he said he is so embarrassed about what happened that he stays home at night, and is so ashamed of being seen by former classmates that he wears sunglasses when riding the subway.

    He has a teenage brother. “I had wanted to be a good role model for him, so this is so disappointing,” he said, as his eyes filled with tears. His father knows he was expelled, but not why.

    He asked that he not be identified. Though he wants his name cleared, he said he does not want notice of the case to follow him on Google for life. As for his accuser, it is the Globe’s policy not to identify alleged victims of sexual assault unless they decide otherwise.

    The sexual encounter that is now in dispute occurred in the early morning of Feb. 5, 2012, months before Amherst became prominently ensnared in a national maelstrom over insensitivity to women students who had been sexually assaulted.

    In October 2012, a former student, Angie Epifano, published a harrowing account of how Amherst had her involuntarily committed to a psychiatric facility after she resisted pleas by Amherst’s sexual assault counselor to forget about her rape and forgive her alleged assailant. In 2011, Amherst was one of 55 colleges and universities threatened with the loss of federal funds unless they moved quickly to investigate and punish sexual abusers.
    <p id=”U81223586360kWF” style=”letter-spacing: -30;”>With alacrity, Amherst shifted gears: It forced out the sexual assault counselor. It adopted tough new guidelines governing student behavior and the reporting of sexual misconduct. And it implemented a new disciplinary process designed to deal expeditiously and forcefully with sexual misconduct, in part by adopting the “preponderance of the evidence’’ standard. Doe was the first Amherst student tried under that standard.</p>
    The disputed sexual encounter began late on a Friday night, when Jones, the accuser, and Doe were sophomores. He had been dating her roommate, who was out of town, for a month.

    According to accounts by the accuser and witnesses given to Allyson Kurker, the outside investigator brought in by Amherst, Doe arrived in a fourth-floor dormitory lounge where several friends had gathered. He was very drunk. She was tipsy.

    Within minutes, they were “making out’’ in front of the others, and then left and went to her dorm room.

    In her initial written complaint, Jones said that in the dorm room, the entire encounter was forcible. But in her interview with Kurker and during the hearing, she said the oral sex was initially consensual; then, after Doe boasted about “hooking up” with both her and her roommate, she told him to stop. He refused to do so, she said, according to the hearing transcript.

    In his defense, Doe said he was not the kind of person who would do such a thing. But he told the disciplinary board he was so drunk that night he had no memory of the encounter.

    During the 2013 hearing, Jones’s roommate testified that she had learned Jones had exchanged text messages with a resident dorm counselor just after the alleged rape. But the school made no effort to contact the counselor or obtain the texts, according to the hearing record.

    When a hearing officer asked Jones about those texts, she replied: “I didn’t want to address what had happened to me and I was in no position yet to accept that it had been rape. So in my text messaging [to counselor] I only said things about the hook-up as if it had been consensual.”

    In the lawsuit, Stern argues that the texts contain evidence that make it clear the sexual encounter with Doe was consensual and initiated by Jones; that she deliberately misled the college’s investigator and the hearing board; that she was motivated to make the allegations so her roommate would not blame her for what happened; and that Doe, who was incapacitated that night, is the real victim in the case.

    In the texts, which extend over several hours, Jones and the dorm counselor exchanged the following messages:

    Jones: “Ohmygod, I jus[sic] did something so [expletive] stupid.”

    Counselor: “What did you do?”

    Jones responded that she had sex with Doe. Then she expressed concern that her roommate would find out, noting that her roommate’s friends had witnessed the start of the encounter.

    The counselor’s recommendation was to blame Doe for the encounter. Her reply: “But I mean [roommate] knows me it’s pretty obvi I wasn’t an innocent bystander.’’

    As she was texting with the counselor, Jones was also texting another male classmate to come to her room: “I mean I happen to have my room to myself this weekend if you wanted to come over and entertain me.”

    Hours later, Jones had another text exchange with the counselor that indicated she and that classmate had sex after hours of conversation.

    In an affidavit he signed in April 2014, the classmate, who turned over his text messages to Doe early last year, said he had sex that February night with Jones, who was friendly and flirtatious, and did not appear “anxious, stressed, depressed or otherwise in distress.’’

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/05/29/amherst/4t6JtKmaz7vlYSrQk5NDyJ/story.html

    Then also this locally:

    Innocent boy’s jail nightmare

    A 16-YEAR-OLD boy who was acquitted on Friday night of multiple rape was locked up for almost a year awaiting trial.  Audio: Solicitor Laura Timpano discusses this case with 6PR’s Millsy and Tony Mac

    Patrick Waring, then a 15-year-old Catholic college student, was dragged out of bed by police a year ago and refused bail on nothing but the say-so of a lying 17-year-old girl who cried rape.

    Just before the trial started, the girl admitted lying about her sex life the whole time. She had insisted she was a virgin.

    DNA tests excluded Patrick from her claims of rape.

    She finally admitted she had had sex with a man at the back of a cinema the same afternoon, two hours before claiming Patrick raped her at Joondalup’s Central Park after following her from the railway station on March 30 last year.

    She also admitted to having been in a sexual relationship with her boyfriend at the time.

    Patrick was originally denied bail when a police officer told the Children’s Court that Patrick had phoned the girl and threatened her — a fact the police later admitted was wrong.

    Patrick’s father, Terry Waring, said his family had been torn apart for a year. His and his wife’s belief in the justice system had been shattered.

    “Shoddy work, cruelty and seeming vindictiveness cost us our house, financial security and a lifetime of savings for a three-week trial,” he said.

    “The emotional cost to the family has been incalculable. Personally, I have not cried as much since my brother was killed in Vietnam.”

    The girl’s new story included being raped by two different men in two hours. She said the cinema sex with a 20-year-old, who she had met on the internet, was rape, but she didn’t want him charged because it might affect her compensation claim.

    The girl had previously lied to interviewing officers, the Sexual Assault Resource Centre doctor who examined her and to prosecutor Amanda Forrester.

    Director of Public Prosecutions Robert C~~~ dropped his opposition to bail and Patrick was allowed home on strict conditions on the eve of his trial, but Mr C~~~ pressed ahead with a three-week trial in the District Court.

    Yesterday, while Patrick was enjoying his first day of complete freedom for exactly a year, his family was still suffering from the trauma.

    “The accusations came out of left field,” Mr Waring said.

    “We are a very close family and Patrick had never been involved in anything.

    “The biggest issue we had with him before was that he cycled to school without waiting for his mother to see him across a main road, and he was grounded for two weeks.”

    The Warings had to re-mortgage their house in Beldon to pay for the trial and they moved to Canning Vale to be close to the Banksia Hill Juvenile Detention Centre so they could visit Patrick daily.

    Patrick’s mother, Marie, resigned her nursing job at Joondalup Health Campus and his father took leave from the commonwealth public service to cope with the trauma.

    “It’s the finish of school for Patrick,” Mr Waring said.

    “He’s lost virtually all of Year 11 and the start of Year 12 and he’s had to grow up very fast. He lost his youth in there.

    “We didn’t tell anyone at school what had happened to him. He just disappeared. And now we couldn’t send him back there to face the ramifications of this.”

    Patrick’s 24-year-old brother, Michael, also lost a year of study for his degree in computer science and information systems because of the ordeal.

    His 25-year-old sister Danielle has changed her plans to study civil law and is studying criminal law at Notre Dame University.

    Patrick was charged while his shocked parents were still making their dash back to Perth from a Walpole holiday and before DNA results were obtained.

    It took PathWest seven months to provide the results.

    It was only when defence counsel Tom Percy QC and Jonathan Davies consulted DNA expert
    Brian McDonald to interpret those results that another male’s DNA, not Patrick’s, was found in the girl’s underwear and in her mouth. Only then did she admit her lies.

    Mr Percy told the court that the case was dangerous and based on the lies of a complainant who was bizarre. In his closing address, he told the jury that the girl’s evidence was riddled with inconsistencies, was most implausible and totally dishonest.

    He said she had lied to people in positions of authority on the night and deliberately lied for a long time, her lies only discovered last month.

    Ms Forrester told the jury in her opening address for the prosecution that the girl’s account would be corroborated in each and every way by the independent evidence gathered by police.

    But nothing to substantiate the girl’s claims was found during a forensic check of the Joondalup park on the night and the SARC doctor found no evidence of sexual assault.

    SARC’s Dr Catherine Nixon, who told the court the girl was clear, composed and cogent on the night, agreed on cross-examination that abrasions on her back could have been caused by carpet burns.

    PathWest biologist Janine Bennett said in cross-examination that the prosecution’s claim of a two billion-to-one likelihood of DNA on Patrick’s jeans being a mix of the girl’s and Patrick’s, was not valid if you allowed for the possibility of a third person being involved.

    Mr Percy said it was the only calculation PathWest did on the samples and it ignored the possibility of a third contributor found by Dr McDonald.

    After a three-week trial before Judge Philip Eaton, the jury found Patrick not guilty of four counts of aggravated sexual penetration without consent, one count of deprivation of liberty and one count of aggravated indecent assault.

    Mr C~~~ defended continuing with the trial, saying there had been some corroboration of the girl’s story by other witnesses and the jury’s 10-hour deliberation supported the view that there were serious issues to consider.

    Patrick admitted in court that he had lied about not ever speaking to the girl. He acknowledged in late November that he had had some innocent, non-sexual social contact with the girl on March 30.

    He told the court that after seeing the girl at Joondalup train station and talking to her for a while at Central Park, he exchanged phone numbers with her and went home.

    In court, police conceded they had not followed best practice in the case.

    Various officers said that the Central Park scene was left unguarded from 1.25am on the night, it was a week before it was searched, and the same officers had visited the homes of the girl and the accused which allowed for contamination of evidence.

    The male DNA found in the girl’s underwear was not identified by PathWest as not belonging to Patrick because it was excluded under PathWest’s reporting levels.

    The trial in the District Court cost taxpayers about $90,000 and has left Mr Waring demanding answers to the failings in the justice system, citing flaws in the police investigation, delays in PathWest testing and its interpretation levels.

    http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/innocent-boys-jail-nightmare/story-e6frg12c-1111113259916

    He did an AMA on reddit which is worth a read about his experience in jail for that year where he got the s~~~ beat out of him regularily:

    http://www.reddit.com/r/AMA/comments/2qm8o8/i_am_the_15yo_guy_who_was_falsely_accused_of_rape/

    Then this on the other hand:

    Intern’s $23 million payday after being slut-shamed by Wall Street CEO

    A WOLF of Wall Street has to cough up $23 million for sexually harassing and then trashing online his pretty Swedish underling, a Manhattan jury has ruled.

    Plaintiff Hanna Bouveng, 25, scored the massive payday after filing suit against her married former boss, Benjamin Wey, the 43-year-old CEO of New York Global Group.

    The big award came from punitive damages, with the federal jury handing Bouveng a total of $20 million for defamation that included Wey smearing her on his Webzine after their breakup and emailing her father a vicious note when he found another man in her bed.

    Bouveng also landed $650,000 in compensatory damages for sexual harassment that ranged from Wey openly panting over her at the office to pressuring her to sleep with him. When she finally fell into bed with him, he lasted just 2 minutes, she said.

    Jurors awarded Bouveng another $1.95 million to compensate her for Wey’s defamation.

    The four-man, four-woman jury was upset by the trial’s intense and graphic testimony.

    “It was a pretty disturbing trial. I think everybody was troubled by the nature of the case,” said the jury foreman.

    A female juror bashed Wey for defaming Bouveng.

    “We hope it will make companies and individuals think twice before personally defaming someone else,” the female juror said of their award.

    “We felt she was hurt in everything that came out on social media and in the media.”

    Asked whether she would spend a night in a hotel room with Wey — as Bouveng testified she was pressured into doing on multiple business trips — the juror smirked and said, “No comment!”

    Bouveng’s suit had sought a total of over $1 billion.

    The jury awarded Bouveng $US1 million for the retaliation she suffered after she called it quits with Wey and he fired her. And then they deliberated several more hours over punitive damages before awarding the final $20​ million.

    “I saw a 6-foot-tall homeless black man named James lying on her bed. The man was totally naked, dirty, totally drunk and perhaps on illegal drugs,” Wey wrote to Bouveng’s father, Nils Sundqvist, in one e-mail entered into evidence.

    The pretty brunette gave a small smile to her lawyers as the initial verdict was read.

    Also in court was the other man she’d been in bed with, James Chauvet — a sharp-dressed club promoter. The pair shared a long hug after the verdict.

    “I think it was a good verdict,’’ Chauvet later said.

    Wey, who had been in court every day for the trial with his wife, was not in the courtroom.

    His lawyer, Glenn Colton, declined comment.

    One of Bouveng’s lawyers, David Ratner, bashed Wey for not showing up to hear the verdict.

    “He’s got b~~~~ when he’s hiding behind his stupid magazine, but when it comes to facing the jurors, he doesn’t show up,” Ratner said.

    “The jury said yes, she was sexually harassed, yes, she suffered retaliation, yes, she suffered defamation — and they rejected everything Wey had to say,’’ the lawyer said. “She’s ecstatic, and we are very, very pleased.”

    http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/interns-23-million-payday-after-being-slut-shamed-by-wall-street-ceo/story-fnkgbb6w-1227421132790

    The kid who spent a year in jail didn’t even get an apology, let alone compensation because the Police didn’t want to admit they f~~~ed up badly as well as his treatment inside jail and even during the trial with it being heavily biased towards the supposed ‘victim’ favour with evidence submitted (he covers the bias in his AMA), or the woman who raped the passed out dude gets off scott free.

    Makes my f~~~ing blood BOIL, what f~~~ing equality? Last time I checked EQUALITY MEANT EQUAL!

    They want to be ‘more equal’ than men.

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    This fake rape bulls~~~ only works because the “Justice” system allows it. Meanwhile, I read articles from feminists bitching about unprocessed rape kits in an evidence department. Does it ever occur to them that falsely claiming rapes makes others distrust them hurting those with valid claims of rape? Hell no!

    They don’t ever punish the women for it. Yet, the man pays even if he gets cleared. Equality, my f~~~ing ass.

    #79093
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    Puffin Stuff
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    My 18 year old son has been so indoctrinate by his mom that I cannot even broach this subject with him without him thinking I’m a misogynist. He thinks even looking at girls is a form of rape.

    But he is very interested in sex.

    I keep my distance and vote him “Most likely to knock up a snake and ruin his life or get burned in a fake assault case”.

    There is nothing I can do, so I do nothing.

    I go my own way and try to help men/boys who have not been completely brainwashed or have half a brain.

    #icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

    #79098
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    Anonymous
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    I hear ya Cpig, I treat women like flowers, I don’t touch them or ruffle their peddles, I never forced so much as a pinky on them ever. The hyper man hating hysteria is, and has been for quite some time, at a level that dictates I play it safe, simply by NEVER being alone with women or children I don’t know, and NEVER “playing games or crude jokes” with strangers .

    The media is all to quick to brand, bind, bond, and burn a man to a cinder before he ever reaches trial.

    Look at all the “long term” prisoners (men) that have been released on genetic testing, thereby exposing the witch hunt mentality that could strike you, me, or any one of us just because we weren’t “playing it safe”…..

    Countless innocent a men have rotted away in prison, Tortured for decades by injustice and false imprisonment, all on the “word of a woman”….

    P.S. @H.R., I feel for ya man, It sucks to watch someone you know go down the tubes, FALLOPIAN TUBES !

    What the f~~~ does it take for men to wake up? LIFE IN PRISON?

    #79103
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    I will never understand how MGTOW especially college mgtow still desire to have sex with females who are likely to file rape charges against them to ruin their lives. Yes they will never marry but trying to have sex with girls while in college in the US is literally one of the worst things you can do to yourself in this day and age. Engaging women sexually on college campuses will only perpetuate their nonsense.

     

    I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.

    #79107
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    Anonymous
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    @HRP: Man, I hope your son has a conversion before he gets torched for life. The boy is swimming with the sharks.

    @Tower: I propose we treat them like ebola carriers just to be on the safe side.

    The one false rape case I personally had the disgust of watching transgress had the guy spend 45 days in the county joint as a sex offender. He was then packed off for a month of in house treatment at a mental health facility. After her, he probably needed it. She had a family connection who helped her “work” with a district attorney he knew to finally get him cleared after she admitted it was bogus. Nothing happened to her.

    #79108
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    Unbelievableyetnot
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    These guys are given mandatory “consent classes” so they know full well how perilous it is to have any relationship with college girls beyond the most superficial and safe of topics (they have to be treated like infants. Nothing upsetting, nothing challenging, nothing sexual, no criticism.) I have no empathy for these dudes at all, because if they know how s~~~ty the college environment is and went ahead anyway, then frankly they knew the risks and frankly these frat boys think very little of mens rights people. I bet this dude isn’t considering the MRA and MGTOW “Losers” anymore, huh.

    #79130
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    Mango Ingaway
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    Does it ever occur to them that falsely claiming rapes makes others distrust them hurting those with valid claims of rape? Hell no!

    “We know some of them are spouting total bulls~~~, but we still always should trust the victims!”
    Ya sure.
    L-m-a-o at this s~~~.

    He thinks even looking at girls is a form of rape. But he is very interested in sex.

    It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.

    #79139
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    Wolf
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    My 18 year old son has been so indoctrinate by his mom that I cannot even broach this subject with him without him thinking I’m a misogynist. He thinks even looking at girls is a form of rape.

    Do women realize that this type of male social conditioning will hurt women in the long run? If guys are afraid to even look at women, how can women expect to form relationships with men, get pregnant/married and get their hooks into men’s resources?

    Of course, they will say that they don’t need men, but we all know that is bulls~~~. Any guy in a relationship or the dating world knows full well how dependent women are on men.

    Overtime, more and more men will be terrified of having anything to do with a woman, and women will be left to fend for themselves – no babies, no alimony, no child support, no monthly government handouts for being a single mother, no division of property…nadda f~~~ing thing except their pay cheque and/or welfare.

    #79151
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    Anonymous
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    @Tower: I propose we treat them like ebola carriers just to be on the safe side.

    Knock me over! That’s exactly how I see women, hell everyone for that matter! I had a woman come back to me after a couple of months claiming she had hep c, what a heart stopper! She was the last and final straw! F~~~ THAT!

    #79261
    Survivor
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    I’m not too far from that age but not in college anymore; college age guys are ruled by their little head completely. Some think more clearly, but most do not.

    "Shot through the heart, and you're to blame, You give love a bad name, I play my part and you play your game, You give love a bad name."--Bon Jovi

    #79264
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    Survivor
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    I propose a minimum $100, 000 fine to the person who falsely accuses of rape, DV, or sexual assault and 6 months in jail.

    "Shot through the heart, and you're to blame, You give love a bad name, I play my part and you play your game, You give love a bad name."--Bon Jovi

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