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I just recently was discussing in a lengthy post about how I felt screwed over from the get go…I went on and on about how I felt skipped over…I worked my rear side off starting at the age of 14, and in a ton of jobs that had no future, to attempt to get into a secure, financially rewarding future…I made a ton of mistakes along the way, including letting an invention that would almost certainly guaranteed all of this and much more, slip right out of my hands over fear, just to name ONE….I still feel that way to some extent, however, after reading all my fellow brothers posts, I realized, that 99% of us are in the same boat, well maybe not 99%, but a TON more men than I ever realized…This simple fact, along with the total and complete understanding of modern slavery in America, had enlightened me, and slapped the s~~~ out of me, until I was wide awake, and paying attention to much more than I previously was…Now, most here know I don’t have cable, cell phone, and only go into town once a month for groceries, so as far as what is going on around me, generally speaking of course, I have no idea…No idea what trends are going down, no idea what songs are in the top 100000, no clue….No idea what movies are out or coming out, etc etc….So when I found through researching a few very stimulating topics on the boards here, that the new generation of young people will not take a job that they feel is beneath them what so ever at all, I wanted to puke…Do these young people have any idea the f~~~ing millions of us that took dead end, no f~~~ future, my boss is the biggest douche bag on the entire planet jobs, and stayed there for years on end, NOT BECAUSE IT WAS A F~~~ OF A GOOD TIME, but because we understood future employers would see that we had work skills, future employers would see that we knew how to get the f~~~ out of bed and show up on time, future employers would see we worked even when the f~~~ing work was MILES beneath us, just so we could make ends meet????
Here is an idea, see if I get slapped the s~~~ out of for saying this….
1. Take away all the x-boxes, playstations, laptops, smart pads, ipads, cell phones, cable tv, internet…
2. Take away the car, the insurance for said car, the gas for said car….
3. Take away all T.V.’s, flat screens, monitors, and all screen f~~~ devices I am missing here…
4. Take away all phone privileges EXCEPT to receive and make INTERVIEW calls…
5. MANDATORY bed time 10 pm, no staying out at the bar, club, hang out, restaurant, friends house, or what the f~~~ ever I am missing here….
6. Mandatory wake up 6am, no sleeping in, no naps, no bulls~~~…
7. Mandatory chore list, to be completed each and every day, Hell, I will take it a step further, I will give a mandatory schedule you can follow, and I will break down every 15 min for the entire day…
8. No friends over, no girls, and no going over to friends, or a girls, or meeting them somewhere, none….None of these things return until you take a full time forty hour a week job and keep it, not missing one hour unless you get a note from the doctor specifically saying individual cannot work, for an entire 6 months…And if for some reason you lose the job, back to the list until requirements are met…
When I was 14 we had one tv in the house, and I had absolutely ZERO control over it, and what was playing on it the few times it was on…Not to mention, there was not s~~~ on anyways, and all I wanted was to get a job and get the f~~~ out, so I could have MY OWN TV and decide what the f~~~ I WANTED to watch…Does this sound like Marxism or a Nazi dictatorship to any of you, or does this maybe sound like a good way to get these self entitled youngsters a dose of reality and life????
Chime in, as I am curious….Men are at a time when panning for gold in a urinal has a higher probability of success than finding a faithful and loving woman, it is time to go your own way.....
does this maybe sound like a good way to get these self entitled youngsters a dose of reality and life????
This may give some fathers on here, including me, some “good” ideas when trying to bring around one of their own troubled teens. I’m a big believer in creating independence in kids, and TRAINING them on how to become a “responsible” adult.
(#2 day may stand i the way of employment. Ideally, a young adult/teen would be financially responsible for at least some if not all of their transportation.)The key is that you’re attempting to make these “kids” to become “independent” adults, and yes most of these adult kids need to be trained in how to live life. They need to know how to take a few lumps, and get up fighting instead of running away to play video games. Life is tough, and even tougher for young males growing up in a feminazi matrix.
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Anonymous42Let them hit the wall and starve for producing nothing, no free lunch, that’s just stealing it from another, making work that much more unattractive, time to starve the leaches until they fall off.
Being MGTOW means the only other host for these leaches is more big daddy government. Eventually whoever is the willing host will be sucked dry and blow away in the desert wind.
I like all my bodily fluids to be left inside and not leached away by a legal parasite!
Run to big daddy government modern woman and stay the f~~~ away from me! Bend over and leach yourself goodbye!
Anonymous43naaaaw dude that is sooo like harsh.
umm sounds like my dad. No bulls~~~ until the work is done. and the work better not be half assed either.
That’s what’s missing in my students…no dad, bulls~~~ has free reign, half assed is ok, mom is too busy with work and her chad
my students get a little disconcerted when I catch them dogging it on their work.
My daughter teaches in a local state university. She gave her students an assignment, you must do this and that. Many of them asked ” You mean both?”
Recently dated a 34 year old ” Model”. Very nice looking woman with a BS in Business. She was not what she told me initially and I did a background check, criminal, Linkedin. Her actual job history for the past 5 years has been work for a month, go on unemployment and food stamps for 8 months. She has been couch surfing for years. She has an ex boyfriend who has a business who lies for her as a reference. She just would rather , according to her, ” Roller skate on the beach, watch TV, smoke pot 5 times a day, and masturbate 3 times a day.” She has never had an orgasm without her vibrator, so she really does not need or even want your dick. Just your money.
That was a fine looking one with a degree and no kids. I passed when I learned the truth of her .
When she hits the fast approaching wall she is done.
I had to teach a recent college STEM graduate how to mop a floor.
He grew up on tech. Never worked a job, rich parents, encouraged book learning.
He was too good for manual labor.
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I had to teach a recent college STEM graduate how to mop a floor.
Are freaking serious Jan, who doesn’t know how to use a mop??? Holy bats~~~ sir….I was mopping floors at the local Hardee’s at 16, Learned how when my cruel mother made me do terrible chores…Wow…just wow…
Men are at a time when panning for gold in a urinal has a higher probability of success than finding a faithful and loving woman, it is time to go your own way.....
They need to know how to take a few lumps, and get up fighting instead of running away to play video games. Life is tough, and even tougher for young males growing up in a feminazi matrix.
I couldn’t agree more sir….
Men are at a time when panning for gold in a urinal has a higher probability of success than finding a faithful and loving woman, it is time to go your own way.....
Anonymous8While it is easy to blame the current generation for their shortcomings, lets not forget who raised them, or failed to in this case. I’m not trying to excuse anyone from earning a living, however the opportunities available now are vastly different from the past, granted there was still minimum wage, however the cost of living has gone up significantly more than wages have, that is to say the buying power of currency is less than what it was due to inflation and dilution. The money supply in the US has more than doubled with the stimulus packages, other countries have similar situations, hell in parts of South America it takes so much currency to buy anything it won’t fit in wallets.
Where it used to be possible to earn a living with a full time minimum wage job, they no longer exist at an entry level, everything is part-time until you pay your dues, at which point student debts or welfare come into play. Those without post secondary education and no skills will not earn enough to live on, no matter how hard they work, because there are so many of them that the market can set terms and never need to negotiate due to the abundance of desperate applicants.
Another factor to consider is automation, many jobs have already disappeared and this trend will continue at an ever increasing rate due to technological advances. Cashiers, Truck Drivers, Cabbies, Uber Drivers, Servers just to name a few, businesses are doing cost benefit analysis’ and machines are more efficient and cheaper in many cases, or if not now, they will be soon.
Now I’m not trying to say there are no entitled brats out there, because that would be dishonest. However there is more than one take on this issue. Furthermore a lot of young people have never truly had to earn their keep, therefore the concept is foreign to them.
This is a troubling issue in that it pits the old against the young, and the young are getting fed up by being stereotyped as lazy, entitled, spoiled, etc.. These are just more shaming tactics, like the race & gender baiting we are all too familiar with. To me it feels like the old divide and conquer and competition will see to it that AI is rushed out as quickly as possible, due to profit. We are on the cusp of another industrial revolution and the implications are staggering. Blaming the youth is literally the worst possible answer to these problems, because if someone is called lazy, privileged or entitled enough times, well don’t be surprised if they start to believe it.
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Well sir, I certainly enjoyed the analysis you have provided for me…I had too read it more than once to ensure I was not reacting with an emotional response as much as an objective one…This is indeed is a very fantastic viewpoint that not only myself, but millions of others have simply overlooked, or maybe misjudged in some way…In the parenting aspect, to place all of the blame on one or another is simply passing off inherent responsibility…Yes, the parenting for this generation has been different than any other…But have you asked yourself why that is??? This generation of parents, when they were young and learning, had to deal with their own problems with their parents…Do kids today get physically abused??? Not even close to the numbers of the previous generation or the one before that for that matter…So they have to develop new means for punishment…Is this easy??? Not even…They have also had to develop ways to reward the youth, as in my childhood experiences, the one’s who exceeded expectations, in whatever aspect you would like to analyze (sports, education, chores) were sometimes not rewarded at all, this has lead to an over rewarding system that gives a trophy just for participation…So yes, these last two subjects reward/punishment have gone complete opposite in just one generation…This is a huge swing of the pendulum…No gray area in there at all, and I believe this is where we will end up in the future, somewhere in the middle of where we are now…At least that is where logic leads me to believe, I could be wrong…Is there inflation today??? Yes, of course there is, but you pretend as if this is a new issue, or pretend that we had a wonderful life making a living on a minimum wage, and you could not be further from the truth, living on a minimum wage was even tougher when I was younger, we did not have so many options for cheap entertainment right at our fingertips, not nearly the options that you have today, not even close…When I was working at sixteen and living on my own, I could not get cable, so you know what I had for fun??? Books or the radio/cassette tape player…This was it, you think today’s youth would be okay if we took away everything and gave them those two options for entertainment??? Not a chance…You list the lack of opportunity today, this has always been an issue for the young and starting out, this is not a new thing that this generation invented…Fast food workers are still in demand, same as when I was younger, I worked as a oil derrick hand when I was that age…Can you do that today??? Sure you can, you just have to be where that particular field is still in operation…Are there grocery stores in every city in this country??? Sure there is, these were the types of jobs we worked then, and you can still do today…Do you end up having enough money left over for a seventy dollar a month cell bill + internet + cable tv + gas + car payment + car insurance + rent + food = NOPE…So this generation could use a little more “Doing Without” as far as I see it..The things this generation considers “necessary” to live on, simply stated, is simply not…You bring automation up…Has this affected this generation’s ability to be employed??? Not yet…The machine, however threatening it may be in the very near future, has not taken over just yet…They have not put a machine in place of a human everywhere just yet…Yes there are self checkouts, atms, pay at the pump, but in all honesty they have not replaced us just yet, so that may be an excuse for coming generations it is not a good one now…I do not hold the youth to “blame”, I am trying to hold them “Accountable”…And it seems to me that no one in this generation wants that…They look at their parents, and they want better, sure, so did we…They want happiness, sure, so did we…But you do have a point to an extent that maybe there was a bit too much coddling, and being there for them when maybe they should have been left to figure it out on their own…I am certain that no generation can be held fully responsible…It is indeed a shared responsibility…But using the words lazy, privileged, or entitled is exactly how I see them, I do not see today’s youth making the attempt I seen in my youth, but then again this is what the generation before me called my generation, and you know what it did for us sir??? It did not make us into that, it lit a fire under our asses and gave us just another reason to go out and prove them wrong….Has any generation had it completely right??? Probably not…But what this generation can do is correct the mistakes our generation made in parenting, punishment/reward, and teach their children all the better…I guess in the end sir, it does no one any good to shame anyone, not a group, not a generation, not anyone (well women maybe) but not the point here, I see yours though, and from now on instead of using language to shame a generation, maybe we should use it to try to positively reinforce…All of this though sir, is simply my opinion, not a fact, just a viewpoint from myself…I could be totally off base on everything I said, and if so, I apologize, if I am ever wrong, I have no problem at admitting it, it is just the way I am seeing things is all…..Men are at a time when panning for gold in a urinal has a higher probability of success than finding a faithful and loving woman, it is time to go your own way.....
Anonymous8You make a lot of good points and I agree with a most of them.
this has lead to an over rewarding system that gives a trophy just for participation
That’s a perfect example, participation trophies trivialize the competitive spirit of sports, winning and losing are important life lessons, like failure and success people need to learn to cope with both.
As far as parenting through punishment and rewards, that is something which does not uniformly fit any era in so far as I can tell, however there is a clear lack of discipline with many children and some bad ideas on how to deal with it, for instance fast food and pharmaceuticals.
maybe there was a bit too much coddling, and being there for them when maybe they should have been left to figure it out on their own…I am certain that no generation can be held fully responsible…It is indeed a shared responsibility
This is another good point, and like you said teaching people to be accountable for themselves is important, kids who grew up with everything they wanted never having to earn anything or missing a meal are complacent and take those things for granted.
But what this generation can do is correct the mistakes our generation made in parenting, punishment/reward, and teach their children all the better
This is true, I think the key word is balance, children need boundaries and without them, well you know, you made the thread. I am simply playing devil’s advocate here.
A lot of us have kids that we try to teach the “right way” so they don’t grow up to be entitled twerps. However, from my personal experience (and I can see it happen with others) I can say that married or unmarried you don’t always have a lot of control over how the kids are raised. Some guys see their kids every other weekend (thanks to bulls~~~ legal system who thinks fathers suck) and only have a limited influence on their kids. They have to fight the ideas that Mom, In-Laws, Liberal School Teachers, Television, and other sources of propaganda stuff in their brains. Even if they are still married to the mom if she is high conflict it is a never ending tug of war for control of the kids upbringing. They would rather jump off a cliff than to step back and let Dad parent.
For instance A lot of these kids are brought up to think it is normal to get a toy every time they hit the store because that’s how Mom bribes them to act “good”. Mom doesn’t give a s~~~ that it teaches the kid to expect a treat every time he leaves the house or that someday it will turn into a huge problem. Kid grows up with tons of toys, clothes, and gadgets that they really don’t value that much because he is used to getting so much all the time. But Mom has trained them to expect this their whole life without realizing the consequences.
When they grow up they suffer so much more because of the way they were trained to always get things with little effort. Some figure it out after a great deal of pain. A lot don’t.
Consequences of Divorce, Feminism, and the destruction of the family are far reaching and real.
@ member—–A subject totally neglected in all previous postings sir…And so very true…My daughter is being raised by one of these as we speak…So yes, I can certainly attest to the truth in what you say brother….
Men are at a time when panning for gold in a urinal has a higher probability of success than finding a faithful and loving woman, it is time to go your own way.....
I dont think its like that.
Ive met my good share of people who work and study non stop.
I think its the dumbed down generation.The only way to control a lot of people is if they are dumb enough that they dont know who is f~~~ing them over.
Then you can find someone to blame and f~~~ them all over again.
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