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Anonymous6Why Guys Should Pay for Dinner
By Duana C. Welch, Ph.D., author of Love Factually: 10 Proven Steps from I Wish to I Do, available now
-January 27, 2015“Really, that’s just not fair. I always pay my share the first time I meet a man.” ‘Janine’ said this after I suggested waiting for the man to pay for dates, and then paying her part only if he indicated he wanted her to. And not dating him again if indeed, that’s what he wanted.
It’s a tricky topic, and one women have asked me about often in my role as a science-based relationship advisor. Some, like Janine, think it’s unfair to expect the guy to pay; others are confused, wanting to be treated, but thinking that might be wrong; and still others do the fake-pay, pulling out their wallets and feeling shortchanged when he takes her up on what she thought was a symbolic offer.
So what’s the deal? Blame it on Great-Great-Great-Great Grandma
In a survey I conducted on best and worst dates, women’s top reason for not wanting to see a man again was his failure to pay the bill, “in full, without audible complaint. Period.”
Why? Well, just as we inherited Daddy’s height, or Nana’s curls, we’re heirs to our ancestors’ thoughts. Studies in more than 37 cultures and societies globally prove it. Men have a shared psychology with other men, all over the world. And women have a genuine sisterhood, psychologically.
It all comes from what got people’s own genes cast forward.
Men of the ancient past didn’t have to worry about who was going to provide for them; they could get their own wildebeest, thank-you-very-much. But women couldn’t always get enough food when they were pregnant, nursing, and baby-schlepping. Those who happened to value a man who could and would provide, got what they needed to make sure they and their genes (aka kids) survived. Were there women who were devil-may-care when it came to whether a guy brought home the bison? Probably. But those women are part of human history not human ancestry.
Today’s women want what their successful female forbears got: a good provider and protector. Factually, it’s still relevant to women. And our genes’ survival. Globally, right now, women who have a fully invested husband are healthier, wealthier, longer-lived, and happier than women who don’t. And their kids survive better, too.
Pass On Going Dutch
Upshot? Dating is the modern test to show whether a man will provide; it’s the best information we’ve got, up-front, that he is or isn’t into us. Studies show that where a man invests his money, he’s investing his heart; and where he’s not, he’s not. When men fall in love, they fall harder and faster than women do. One way they know they’re falling is whether they like paying.
By going dutch, Janine was casting aside some of the very most valuable information you can get: Does he care? She changed her strategy and found that suddenly, she no longer got played for weeks or months with guys who didn’t truly want her.
So bring on the stayers and eliminate players. Let the guy pay. If he doesn’t, you can easily move on. If he does — that’s a move towards yes for love and possibly for life.
LoveFactually-Final-CoverAbout the Author:
Duana C. Welch, Ph.D., is the author of Love Factually: 10 Proven Steps from I Wish to I Do (2015); this is a partial excerpt. The book is available now. You can get a free chapter and learn more at http://www.lovefactually.co
Okay Gents the above quoted article actually validates everything that we’ve been saying here at MGTOW.com for quite some time. Let me break it down for you, here’s what the article BLATENTLY ADMITS:
1. Women are engaged in open hypergamy
2. Women have an international hive/ hive mind
3. Dating is a series of s~~~ tests
4. Women are inherently cheap and want men to pay
5. This is the big one, FEMALE NATURE DRIVES THEM TO ALL OF THIS!!!!!
6. Feminism goes against the demands of female nature
Have a drink Gents. We’ve seen through it all and here is a freaking FEMALE and a PHD telling us what we’ve been saying for quite some time. Pat yourselves on the backs. Others may be fooled, you aren’t fooled.
From the article:
“In a survey I conducted on best and worst dates, women’s top reason for not wanting to see a man again was his failure to pay the bill, “in full, without audible complaint. Period.”
There you have it.
Damned out of their own mouths, again.

Anonymous54E Harmony should suck my dick.
Do they not want any male customers?!
I bet this woman thinks that she is making revelationary remarks here, when we men have known this all along…
Dating is the most degrading thing a man can do to himself. Online dating is like dumpster diving for women. A dignified man would never resort to such foolish and desperate behavior.
Only dates I’ll be paying for come from Morocco…
Ever notice how dating websites tend to SHAME men?
Marriage and Divorce for a man is like getting a cactus shoved up your ass. It’s painful with all the spines that go in and it is painful getting all the spines out, meanwhile Wifey gets most of the money, your home, your kids, and practically everything you own.
So eharmmany is confirms it: women are whores.
One of the most important things you can say to a woman is: “This is not a date.”
Dating is the most degrading thing a man can do to himself. Online dating is like dumpster diving for women. A dignified man would never resort to such foolish and desperate behavior.
Exactly. When the ‘pool’ is a cess-pit filled with money-grabbing skanky whores, what man with any sanity would dive in to that pool?
At one time, eHarmony had some better quality women. Nowadays, the one’s on eHarmony are also on POF, Match, OKCupid, etc. It’s all the same now.
My most recent peach I met on eHarmony (post in Dating). She was also on Match as well. Strangely, she used a zip code 30 miles where she lived. Strange. They all lie.
They’re right: a man have pay the dinner, cuz she have a vagina.
And if a day we’ll meet, you guys have to pay me 5 dinners, cuz I own 5 fleshlights!
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women are whores.
Water is wet.
Okay Gents, the above article actually validates everything that we’ve been saying here at MGTOW.com for quite some time. Let me break it down for you, here’s what the article BLATANTLY ADMITS:
1. Women are engaged in open hypergamy;
2. Women have an international hive/hive mind;
3. Dating is a series of s~~~ tests;
4. Women are inherently cheap and want men to pay;
5. This is the big one, FEMALE NATURE DRIVES THEM TO ALL OF THIS (!!!!!);
6. Feminism goes against the demands of female nature.Have a drink, Gents. We’ve seen through it all and here is a freaking FEMALE and a PHD telling us what we’ve been saying for quite some time. Pat yourselves on your backs. Others may be fooled, you aren’t fooled.
The article makes dating and women sound so appealing!!! I’ll give it a pass, thank you very much…
This article is akin to “the poetry of hypergamy”, it should be included within a MGTOW’s library.
This passage is pure gold, due it’s extremely telling about the nature of “love” in women:
When men fall in love, they fall harder and faster than women do. One way they know they’re falling is whether they like paying.
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Dang it, I left my wallet at home.
skip the cavernous vag and go your own way
Dang it, I left my wallet at home.
and all of my f~~~s are lying beside it….damn.
Untamed wrote: Quit complaining and Go Your Own Way in whatever manner suits you best.
They have jobs and earn their OWN money. The cheap f~~~ers can pay for their own food.
Pass On Going Dutch
Upshot? Dating is the modern test to show whether a man will provide; it’s the best information we’ve got, up-front, that he is or isn’t into us. Studies show that where a man invests his money, he’s investing his heart; and where he’s not, he’s not.
I noticed one thing in my “unicorn” tests.
I paid for dinner. But the c~~~s don’t stop there. You are then supposed to pay for her following shopping spree wishes or you get dumped on the spot.
That is how the c~~~ carousel is built: On to the next provider “test”. But with the standards of a princess. And since no man ever qualifies, this count can go up into the hundreds.
So bring on the stayers and eliminate players. Let the guy pay. If he doesn’t, you can easily move on. If he does — that’s a move towards yes for love and possibly for life.
Yes, and the c~~~s move on and on and on. No man will pay for dinner and shopping sprees “every time and all of the time”
So women move on from c~~~ to c~~~ and none of them fulfills their exalted expectations.
We call it the c~~~ carousel.
Come baby rabies time, they “play” lowered expectations (aka “to settle down”) to make us think they are NAWALT. Only to make the guy’s life a living hell who was stupid enough to marry her.
Yes: For not “manning up” and paying for her endless amounts of s~~~.
C~~~ carousel = No ring. That is why. Very simple.
All gold diggers have a c~~~ history. 100 per cent of them.
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Anonymous12Keep in my mind that many dating sites will only charge men to join while women get to treat it like a silly game.
I always pay for dates…
and apples, grapes, etc…
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