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[MGTOW_MikeParticipant 6253]

Anonymous wrote:

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Yes! Selection of words is critical. “THE” implies the one and only.

A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

MGTOW_Mike wrote:

I am not implying that Hammer Hand hates black people.

Oh he does bro… its plain as day. He is racist to the core. Same as many Alt Right people and other people who are too fvcking dumb to understand stats, charts and sociology… Its real easy to fvck people’s perspective up and make them bandwagon Alt Righters parroting bogus concepts. And to be fair to the Alt Right, the blacks make it REALLY EASY to hate them. Its not like blacks themselves are trying to help alleviate misconceptions. The blacks have a BIG inferiority complex and a invincible victimhood narrative. As long as the term Uncle Tom is tossed around without reprisal, you will continue to see activists and people like Al Sharpton…

Anyway… Hammerhead is a two face piece of sh!t. I will not even watch the rest of that movie because the first 25 minutes completely eradicates anything he could possibly have to show us beyond that.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

I dont think the “blackistan” part was racist in itself. But was one opinion.

the outrage is that Blackistan has NOTHING TO DO WITH:

hypergamy
prostitution
sexual dimoprhism
evo psych
family courts
male issues from suicide to circumcision
sexual marketplace value
etc….

Where is all that information??? Where is the MGTOW part of the MGTOW movie??

Oh I get it, he put all that stuff in, AFTER his propagandic alt right bullsh!t … ohhh my mistake…

[MGTOW_MikeParticipant 6253]

Gravel Pit wrote:

Anyway… Hammerhead is a two face piece of sh!t. I will not even watch the rest of that movie because the first 25 minutes completely eradicates anything he could possibly have to show us beyond that.

I see bro. Perhaps I am being a bit too naive and ignorant. But yeah, I too did not watch the rest of the movie. I do not want to watch a mish mash of what is already on YouTube. I want to see ORIGINAL CONTENT! My personal favourite channels are Spetsnaz (of cocurse his channel is gone long ago but his content is still backed up) and Thinking APE. I only resonate with deep introspective style content. I have no energy for trash talk.

A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

[Anonymous 3]

It is difficult to define MGTOW because it can be anything a person wants. There is knowledge to obtain under the MGTOW umbrella that will set you free.

But there is no MGTOW movement, and any definition of MGTOW will kill it, because it will give people who hate freedom something to grab on and destroy.

The greatest strength of MGTOW is not being a classic movement, because that can be boxed, appropriated and destroyed. We have seen this happening with the MRA. The Big John example is the best, he had his most influential content while he was simply stating his wisdom. When he tried to make a movement, go public (the CNN, was he crazy?), then he was destroyed. Where is his voice now? Who is he helping? It is the simple videos he did at the begging that still live, although under the noise of the CNN debacle.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

People like Hammerhead like to pretend this video by Colttaine was never made.

If I had the money, time and resources to produce excellent content on par with Colttaine, I would make a video showing how CULTURE, in the case of the Blacks, has caused racism. And that their culture is SO BAD, that bogus genetic arguments are now accepted as truth (even though they are wrong) … but it doesnt matter if the Alt Right claims are incorrect or not because the Blacks are now so memeticlly toxic that they need to be addressed definitively.

The meme is indistinguishable from the gene. BUt apparentaly people are too fvcking dumb to understand Genes and Memes, so you get those violent protests between alt righters and antifa fa^gets

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

difficult to define MGTOW because it can be anything a person wants.

NO IT CANT! That is PLAYING SEMANTICS WITH THE ACRONYM. That is disingenuous because it completely oversteps 15 years of how MGTOW came to be.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

MGTOW_Mike wrote:

My personal favourite channels are Spetsnaz (of cocurse his channel is gone long ago but his content is still backed up) and Thinking APE.

Same here bro. I like learning about MGTOW.

I do not like being manipulated by emotional appeals to identity politics.

[MGTOW_MikeParticipant 6253]

As soon as an individual defines MGTOW, they are only setting themselves up and limiting their own spiritual growth, i.e. a glass ceiling. Trying to describe MGTOW is just like trying to describe the multiverse.

A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Gravel Pit wrote:

PLAYING SEMANTICS WITH THE ACRONYM

Mgtow aint an oath of celibacy, but its clearly not PUA antics and college boy philandering… They will counter that with semantic bullsh!t like: “Im going ‘my own way’ so that is a green light for pussie begging, getting married and having 3 girlfriends at the same time — Im still a MGHOW if I say Iam…”

If MGTOW “behavior” is defined as anything, than it is nothing.

MGTOW is more than an acronym. It has a basis. It has a RICH history of EXTREMELY SCIENTIFIC CONTENT about psychology, biology and sociology. It is 100% about Males and Females EXCLUSIVELY.

There isnt now, and has never been, any reason to bring “race” into it. In fact, the term race is in itself a non scientific term as there are many genetically unique geographical populations within a socalled race. Where does one draw the line? Well, for people who dont give a damn about scrupulous scientific objective facts, they draw lines at what “color” a person is… thats the easy way to denounce unappealing statistics among American Blacks.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Yeah Manfred, I loved Big John too. The MSM and CNN is why this site is “down” if you ask me … I think they sued KM into a corner as far as this site goes. So we are effectively on our own. That is the only logical conclusion I can come up with. The site has become legally pinned to the floor. We are the lucky few who remain. And we will SING the MGTOW anthem til the cows come home.

ALL MEN SHALL BE FREE TO GO THEIR OWN WAY. (away from women to be exact) … Fvck the fake news media.

[MGTOW_MikeParticipant 6253]

Gravel Pit wrote:

MGTOW is more than an acronym. It has a basis. It has a RICH history of EXTREMELY SCIENTIFIC CONTENT about psychology, biology and sociology. It is 100% about Males and Females EXCLUSIVELY.

Well said!

It is a teaching about REALITY. Being the observer and watching very very carefully. Being the wise man who learns from others.

A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

[MGTOW_MikeParticipant 6253]

Also to add to my previous comment, NOT injecting our own OPINION….but sitting still and OBSERVING. There is a BIG difference between OPINION and REALITY. Opinion is based on our own EGO. Reality is what it is.

A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

just as we talk about how hypergamy is not limited to Western Women …. so too, the MGTOW philosophy and liberty on offer, are not limited to elementary barriers like skin tone. All men shall be free from the Clam Scam because the Hive Collective is borderless and global.

The same parasitic camel spider is between every female’s thighs, no matter if you lift up a California skirt, or a Iranian burka! Its there and it wants to destroy you. Race has fvckall to do with the universal caution that MGTOW emits.

[MGTOW_MikeParticipant 6253]

Yeah, female nature is EVERYWHERE. In eastern countries, it is under control. In western countries, it is out of control. So many men think that going abroad will solve the problem, only to learn the hard way.

A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

[SpiderHerderParticipant 3763]

MGTOW_Mike wrote:

Well said!
It is a teaching about REALITY. Being the observer and watching very very carefully. Being the wise man who learns from others.

Yes ! This is something I’ve always strived for. It is a great way to shed our fears and stress about the world.

[MGTOW_MikeParticipant 6253]

SpiderHerder wrote:

Yes ! This is something I’ve always strived for. It is a great way to shed our fears and stress about the world.

Precisely, brother!

The more in tune we are with reality and our surroundings, the less suffering we experience.

Suffering = Expectations – Reality

A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

[Anonymous 3]

Gravel Pit wrote:

MGTOW is more than an acronym. It has a basis. It has a RICH history of EXTREMELY SCIENTIFIC CONTENT about psychology, biology and sociology. It is 100% about Males and Females EXCLUSIVELY.

YES! That is what I mean by “knowledge to obtain under the MGTOW umbrella”, but I hesitate to say what knowledge is MGTOW. That would put me in the same basket I am criticizing.

I would agree with the list you have done, and probably is the most consensual:

Gravel Pit wrote:

hypergamy
prostitution
sexual dimoprhism
evo psych
family courts
male issues from suicide to circumcision
sexual marketplace value

But I dont understand how you do not accept the many way men can live with the MGTOW knowledge. There are monks, there are people who date, who pump-and-dump and some have girlfriends or live with them. Are we going to say who is not MGTOW?

Then there are different political opinions, is MGTOW associated with a single one?

What I know of the origins of the acronym is from an old newsletter of the old MRA movements, when one guy complained that men would never band together to go in a single direction, that each one wanted to go his way. So the origin is a frustration that you could not have conventional movement because these men are so independent.

Eventually this became a strength. The absence of a movement and the lack or an hierarchy or even a coherent objective makes MGTOW impossible to stop.

What do you want? I want to learn from red pill intelligent people, and I want to help those blue pills that are waking up. I have no other goal.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Are we going to say who is not MGTOW?

yer goddamn right we can say who is and who isnt “Going Their Own Way”

Im not a fence sitter like all these other dudes, I will scream, rant and rave about how pussie beggars and half measured delusional guys currently cohabitating and having LTRs are NOT MGTOW! Neither are goddman Tradcons and selflabeling TFL, TFA or Incels or whatever gayass thing they go by.

FVCK THEM ALL.

No one here took an oath of celibacy (because some have worked out other methods to get ass without effort or risk). But just because a few dudes like Hermit and Puffin Stuff exist (older men) that doesnt give a White Knight pass for 23 year old guys to beleive their own delusional arguments of what Going Your Own Way means… so that they can set them selves up to be sperm jacked, falsely accused, divorce raped or catch STDs etc…

MGTOW either means something or it doesnt… For MOST, if not ALL, mgtow under the age of 35, it means unequivocally MONK MODE! There is no MONK MODE that includes LTR, dating, one night stands or freinds with benefits lays…. whatever. It means exactly what we all know it means.

LATER ON, whan a man naturally gains massive SMV with age post35, then sex is going to happen to you without trying ON YOUR TERMS. So if and when you allow it to occur, be weary. But even after youre 35, the juice is still not worth the squeeze.

THESE HALF MEASURED IDIOTS want to make MGTOW include whatever the fvck behavior they think is sanctioned under “Going Their Own Way.’ <THAT is playing semantics. That is a DELUSION and it will be attacked mercilessly by a few men like me who have nothing better to do that fvck with people online. LOL

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

What do you want?

I dont want anything. I would love to see MGTOW return to what it actually meant in 2013 and 2014.

But it was diluted by PUAs and Blue Pill mangina boys to include sucking up to bitches on Tender and spending copious amounts of time trying to get laid…. How many fake mgtow hypocrites are out there? This isnt a cute lil boys club… its a dire caution and conscious re-direction of natural instinct. How many guys say they are MGTOW, but they still go with the natural tendency to be total pussie beggards?

Then, more currently, MGTOW was trounced by a bunch of gooey effeminate woe-is-me types who want to bask in self made grievances … they adopted names like incel and True forced Lonliness… Thankfully, there are not many of these nuerotic idiots on Youtube but the ones that are on there are trying to recruit validation for their fvcked up neurotic, pill popping fake ailment. (a product of being unredpilled in modernity, total confusion about whats going on)…

Also, MANY TIMES, MGTOW has been highjacked to be associated with ALt Right crap… labeled a hate group many times either against women, gays, blacks or (insert minority group…) …

BUT NONE OF THOSE DEFINITIONS IS CORRECT

Men Going Their Own Way is a monk mode collective of men who choose not to engage women, especially with respect to marriage, LTRs and cohabitation. Furthermore, MOST of these men are independently motivated to abstain from women all together, as in carrying on their lives without interaction or sex with women at all! They are neither sworn to celibacy or engaged in prostitution, they just have other things to do… The juice is not worth the squeeze. We can also see that its no use anyway because women are all stuck on their phones 24/7 using Dating Apps to harvest Chad THundercuck.

Monk Mode is what mgtow behavior is, the WHY OF IT is purely biological philosophy pointing out sexual dimorphism and misandric laws… There is a reason we went our own way….

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