Down about "love"

[HowardParticipant 164]

As most of you are aware, I’ve fairly recently swallowed some red pills in the last half year or so.

I had recently decided to grow out my beard as I’ve not done so in many years and I’ve missed it. My daughter commented to me “I don’t care if you grow out your beard, Dad. I’ll love you no matter what.” I got kinda sad about this and said to her “Thank you. You will probably be the last female that will love me on this earth since my Mom died.” She asked me why that is. I just told her that’s how it is. She tried to convince me that various female friends I have love me, I told her one isn’t even a friend anymore and the other is really the wife of my one of my male friends.

The whole conversation made me kinda depressed thinking about it.

Just wanted to mention it to people who’d understand I guess. Still working on NFG I suppose.

[X11Spectator 4520]

Think about it some more and realise how lucky you are and how far you have come, sovereignty baby.

Those doubts are self sabotaging demons trying to keep you in chains.

MGTOW AKBAR.

[SESQUI ano estParticipant 2534]

You still have a heart Howard and you still feel pain/loss. People will still love you but at some point you won’t need the external validation to know you are awesome. You are a valuable person and it is not dependent on someone else’s love. Live well, raise your daughter well and know how valuable you are as a man and father. We all get down sometimes but this too shall pass. You are loved.

Everyday above ground is a good one. Everyday above ground while single...better still.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22508]

When she gets older even that one may not hold true.

AWALT.

PLenty of daughters out there like that to their dads. Maybe some more justifiable than others, but many get poisoned against dad.

I had heard through my mom she had bumped into my first big high school girlfriend’s dad (they knew each other from high school too). After we had split up, years later, apparently he and his wife divorced. The daughter I went out with still stayed in touch with him, but his younger bitch daughter, who pretty much seemed to hate everyone, including me for going out with her sister, she dropped all contact with him after that. It really did hurt him.

It does happen and it happens regularly. AWALT.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Old BuckParticipant 3596]

I have good days and bad days too.

For almost my whole life, being overweight had turned me into an undesireable to most women. The only female friends I have are spouses of friends. They are the ones that had to take the time to get to know me.

We have been programmed to think a certain way, and now that we have seen a different life, it creates a lot of confusion.

Men are programmed to fix things for others, but when it comes to help ourselves, we get lost.

We are here for you brother.

Don't chase tail. Turn yours around, walk away, and live free!

[HowardParticipant 164]

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

When she gets older even that one may not hold true.

Not gonna lie, that would really hurt me too.

[xanthineParticipant 4903]

This is something i have been thinking about a lot lately…and i have come to the conclusion that “love” is not something a man can realistically expect to get from a woman.

Sure there are unicorns out there, but the vast majority of women today are broken and completely unfit to be wives or mothers. They all lie, they all cheat on their husbands and boyfriends, they all manipulate and exploit men, they all use divorce and children as a means to extort money from men, the list goes on and on…they are all horrible people basically.

They are ALL like that…ALL OF THEM! Because even if they weren’t, how could you possibly know which ones aren’t like that and are actually good? The answer is you can’t…ask anyone who has been divorced. That is why they are ALL like that. They are too good at deception, the odds are too heavily stacked against you, and the stakes are too high to risk anything on them. You will only get burned if you try, and the harder you try the worse you get burned.

We have to learn to live comfortably without women in our lives. If you let them in, all they will give you is hell. All they will do is take from you and devastate you, financially and emotionally. That’s just the world we live in, and there is absolutely not a damn thing we can do to change it. All we can do is accept it and go our own way.

[Pedal, run, rowParticipant]

xanthine wrote:

This is something i have been thinking about a lot lately…and i have come to the conclusion that “love” is not something a man can realistically expect to get from a woman.

I have thought a lot about it as well, and came to the same conclusion.

The best a man can do, if he is perceived by her as high quality, strongest vine she can grab, alpha, all that bulls~~~ to describe the briffault’s law equation programmed into her head, is have a woman fulfill his traditional marriage fantasy.
The one where he has a loyal, loving wife and mother to his children.
How long she can role play will depend on how long he stays on the winning side of the formula, but eventually even Brad Pitt or George Clooney will have his modern wife HATE HIS F~~~ING guts for wanting her to be a Stepford wife.

Through the years she will release some of her pent up frustration by having affairs, spending tons of money, acting out in various ways destructive to the man, the family, bad mouthing him with her hive mates etc.

And one day she will grenade the marriage regardless of anything he does or does not do.

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

If she’s your daughter, then you instill the values in her. If you are going to send her to school, the school will instill their values in her, and she’s not your daughter. Sorry for the harsh truth bomb, but better to get this out right now for everyone with daughters.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22508]

PRogramming, yes.

We get lost about ourselves because the programming shoved down our throats says “YOU are a man, you are expendable, suck it up, no one gives a s~~~ about your feelings, just shut up and take it.”

That’s why. F~~~ the gynocentric programming. Don’t be anyone’s slave. You don’t have to be a deliberate asshole, just recognizing no one can make a moral claim on you to do anything for them, is a major shift in mindset.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22508]

Yeah if I had a daughter and it went like that I would be hurt.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Anonymous 18]

Women love.

It’s just that an aware man can’t bring himself down to that level to justify exchanging his love for hers.

Sandals wrote:

but better to get this out right now for everyone with daughters.

Every woman is someone’s daughter.

Female nature, its destroying lives.

No room for sentiments. Those that manage to get out – are the lucky ones.

No offence to OP.

[Ever5Participant 1008]

Yeah it still hits me too. But with each bout of pain/suffering, comes more acceptance(escape from denial).

I think men in general, desire love, and it’s their biology to commit, at least until they wake up. But the majority of men, want commitment, to be monogamous. Women on the other hand, just don’t. Women’s attraction for a man changes like the weather. Women get into relationships for very different reasons than men. And now it’s well known that women are like this.

I can remember all the times I had oneitis, and just realizing, I was infatuated with a woman that was probably going out and sucking random dick. I think what sucks the most, is the amount of energy, stress, time, that went into something that never was what I thought it was. That’s more painful than all women being that way. It’s that I couldn’t see it, and how long it took to finally see it.

Presently, basically in monk mode. I go out, to eat for example. Last couple times I’ve went to eat, the waitress seemed to be attracted to me. Good looking women too, at least, what I used to think was good looking. Now it’s just, it’s not all that appealing, because i know what it is, and I know “love” isn’t there. Without the idea of ‘love’, it’s like my sexual attraction towards women is just not really there. Like why would I want to put my dick in something that’s had so many dicks in it already, and will have more dicks in it in the future. That doesn’t view commitment the same way as me, the same way as a man. I guess part of my sadness is that my desire for sex isn’t really there like it used to be. I just don’t want to deal with it.

It is sad. But through each layer of sadness comes more truth, a firmer grip on reality. Maybe one day in the future I’ll be interested in having sex, but in that time, I won’t be interested in love. I’ll just use the only thing they have available, they only thing they have to offer, sex. And in that time, it’ll be what it really is, just sex.

Truth has no place to live in the mind of a woman.

[Anonymous 18]

Ever5 wrote:

Without the idea of ‘love’, it’s like my sexual attraction towards women is just not really there

The idealism of love is what leads men to have oneitis; what leads them to marry a whore; and finally what leads some men to put a gun to their head.

Male projection of their idealism for love on to women and a global conditioning of it to boys and young men is sickening.

[HowardParticipant 164]

Ever5 wrote:

Now it’s just, it’s not all that appealing, because i know what it is, and I know “love” isn’t there. Without the idea of ‘love’, it’s like my sexual attraction towards women is just not really there.

Mine is gone now too. I can’t remember the last time I even masturbated. Once in a while I dream about a made up woman or even just dream about masturbating, but when I am awake, I don’t even think about it unless I realize I’ve not done that in a while. I don’t even notice the beauty of the women at work anymore. And that doesn’t depress me in the slightest.

[Anonymous 14]

Ever5 wrote:

. Women get into relationships for very different reasons than men.

And this pretty much sums it up right here-

[sjt1975Participant 2536]

Howard wrote:

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

When she gets older even that one may not hold true.

Not gonna lie, that would really hurt me too.

Well, you better be prepared to possibly get hurt in this way. My sister hurt her father and her mother and nearly destroyed my family, all for some ass-hole c~~~. When their hormones take over, i.e. at any age beyond 11 nowadays, a girl’s/woman’s focus increasingly becomes herself, money, and c~~~. My sister hurt my Dad so much that he had an actual Angina Attack, needed a heart operation, and is now on pills for the rest of his life. Yeah, good luck with your Little Princess. I hope you never get hurt in this way, but to think that it may never happen, is just deluded. Women, of any age, really know how to manipulate and hurt men, it is bred in to them somehow… even your little girl saying what she has to you is manipulation, not genuine, although you think it is, because you are a man and you have your Blue Pill glasses on. Sorry, man, but your Little Girl is already an AWALT. I never believe anything that any woman ever says. It’s sad, but true.

[sjt1975Participant 2536]

Ever5 wrote:

Now, it’s just not all that appealing [i.e. sex/women], because I know what it is, and I know “love” isn’t there. Without the idea of ‘love’, it’s like my sexual attraction towards women is just not really there.

This is exactly how I feel. Why force yourself to pursue something that is un-true, an illusion, and is most probably fraught with danger/risk? When you realise the truth about ‘love’, sex, women, and ‘the game’, any sane man would just remove himself from those things. You must value your own sovereignty over everything else.

[Anonymous 54]

Get a Dog.

Women have nothing to offer you.

[Billy&The CloneasaurusParticipant]

Condolences about your mom man.

Mine is an old school, redpill lady. I’ll be devastated when she goes.

We’re with you.

BTC.

The answer, is no.

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