double (triple?) booking dates

[RockmaninoffParticipant 1641]

Hello,

So I’m going to a concert in a few weeks and I have a spare ticket. I could get my friend to come with me, but I’ve been to a few concerts with him already, and it would be nice to have some female company for a change.

The problem is that women in general are extremely unreliable. It would be awful to think everything is prepared and to have her flake, leaving me with an empty seat next to me.

So, in order to remedy this bad situation, perhaps I should invite more than one to come with me? Simplifying things for the sake of calculation, if the probability of a girl actually keeping her word (and this number is being extremely generous to the female sex) 25%, then as per the binomial distribution, if I want an expected value of one, I need 1/0.25=4 girls to say yes for on average one to show up.

I figure if I do this, the odds of zero showing up is minimized. Of course, I have to consider what if more than one shows up. Part of me would hate to do the same thing women do to me, but another part of me wants to get results. Also, I’ve been told that if you’re flaky with women, they want you more, so if that did happen it would be an opportunity to see what happened.

Thoughts?

EDIT: Could a mod move this to the dating section? I got confused for a second and posted it here isntead.

". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée

[experiencedParticipant]

Laydeez pick up on vibes.
Due to what you’ll unconsciously project, my bet will be that all 4 will sense some sort of an unforeseen challenge and all 4 will show up.
But I “wouldn’t belong to a country club that’d have me for a member” either, so best to get others’ advice.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

Personally, despite the BS/flakiness that a lot of women do in fact exhibit, I think it’s more important to be a man of your word in all situations. I’ve been tempted to do the double booking for the same reasons, but decided against it purely because it’s not the kind of person I want to be.

You’re probably right that there is a good chance that flaking on one of them might actually increase her attraction for you, but at what cost?

It just feels like in some way it brings you down to their level, and that’s not a place I personally want to be.

That doesn’t mean we wouldn’t totally understand if you did do it, nor would we hold you in lower regard, I’m just passing on the reasons I chose not to do this myself. Your priorities may be different, and that’s ok too.

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

If you don’t or can’t trust them, don’t invite them.

I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[revofireParticipant 5]

I wouldn’t recommend it. The simple reason is this: what goes around comes around, but don’t let it come around from us. If someone does something you don’t like, if you do it to them even if they did it first, you’re just as bad. Why? Because if whatever they did was so bad that it hurt you or justifies revenge, then you better damn well believe that you shouldn’t be doing it either. What goes around does indeed come around, but as always, don’t let yourself be the perpetrator. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. We’re better than that, take the risk, you’ll be fine regardless of the outcome. Perseverance, it’s what we do best.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Personally I would find another male friend to go to concerts with.

But if you absolutely must go with a woman, tell each candidate something like: “I’m going to this concert on Friday and my regular date can’t make it so I have a spare ticket. The first one to show up gets it. I’ll be waiting outside the venue at 5:30.”

Maybe send it in a group email or something.

Not only will they all show up, but they’ll actually be there early instead of making you wait. Not because they particularly want to go to the concert, or particularly wanted to go with you (though there is a good chance that they will end up wanting you – female logic) but merely because they want to beat the other women. And the ones who lose won’t hate you for it. They’ll hate the winner, and end up liking you all the more, because women want what other women have.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

If it is possible to buy a ticket at the door for unexpected show-ups – go for it. Let them compete for you. You are the prize, and nothing shows that better than multiple chicks on a date. This is a solid and trusted PUA trick to swing the pendulum towards you. You’re changing the whole dynamic who has to apply for whom without lying to anyone. I say do it.
If you only have one extra ticket and no opportunity to get extras – it would be kinda mean, but still less mean compared to a girl flaking off completely
It’s better to try this strategy with something less noisy and less expensive – say a coffee date.
Who knows, you might get a treesome of of it

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[Anonymous 0]

uchibenkei wrote:

If you don’t or can’t trust them, don’t invite them.

Also, if you can’t trust her in a small matter of not flaking on you, then you can’t trust her on anything more more important.

[RockmaninoffParticipant 1641]

Biggvs_Dickvs wrote:

I think it’s more important to be a man of your word in all situations. I’ve been tempted to do the double booking for the same reasons, but decided against it purely because it’s not the kind of person I want to be.

I haven’t completely decided on my course of action, and I’m still thinking about this.

There’s a very important question every man needs to ask himself: what will be the result/benefit of my course of action?

Choosing to be a man of your word is supposed to be its own benefit. Okay, maybe. But where does that get me?

Only has being a man of my word gotten me some actual additional benefit when I’m known as a man of my word to other men. In my experience, being a man of my word to women has no additional benefit.

revofire wrote:

If someone does something you don’t like, if you do it to them even if they did it first, you’re just as bad.

Another good viewpoint, but then a man needs to make a decision: should I be a “good” man, and spend the rest of my life shaking my fist at the “bad” people while forever scrounging to get what I want; or can I just accept people how they are, and figure out how to maximize the benefit?

sidecar wrote:

“I’m going to this concert on Friday and my regular date can’t make it so I have a spare ticket. The first one to show up gets it. I’ll be waiting outside the venue at 5:30.”

F~~~ing GENIUS.

However, I was going to make my date pay for the ticket herself; has nothing to do with being cheap, it’s my own little “s~~~ test,” to see if she wants to be with me or she just wants a free concert. Could I do this if I add: “$11:30 for the ticket”?

". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée

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