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Unless you get something in return, let her deal with her problem on her own. After all, she’s strong and independent and don’t need a man’s help.
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DONT HELP ANYONE.
We all have a super hero complex, we all have this foolish idea of “helping” to virtua signal how good we are.
Life is a fight, we fight for resourcess, pussy, etc.
I didnt watch the video and i wont, everyone is in this mgtow spree bulls~~~, FOR MONEY, MONEY. is all it is about, dont get me wrong, im ok with that.
But i decided im evil, i dont wanr to help, i wont donate, i wont do s~~~ to help a bum make a living of you tube.
TAKE EVERYTHING AND LEAVE NOTHING IM EXCHANGE.
I wold sell drugs to five years old if it was legal, i wold cut all the men in here open and sell their organs in the black market if it was legal, i wold own slaves and work them down hard (not to death, tgat aint good bussiness) if it was legal, i wold pimp every woman in this planet if it was legal, no remorse, no mercy.
And i hope you all wold do the same for me.
I love george soros, he is evil and not ashamed of it, but he is sincere, he knows the human nature, “if it wasnt me, it wold be someone else” and he is right.
No one in here is better, most of us are just a bunch of hipócrites anyway.
GYOW and if it is an evil way, even better.
To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.
Anonymous1Unless you get something in return, let her deal with her problem on her own. After all, she’s strong and independent and don’t need a man’s help.
Yes, I have adopted this attitude in my teenage years.
All these strong empowered women still wanted me to open doors, pay for meals, fix their car etc. I made sure to tell them that Feminism has changed everything. Women are the same as men now and they can open their own doors, pay for their own meals, fix their own cars.
That’s what I call equality.
A fish should be able to change a bicycle tire on her own. Err…
Untamed wrote: Quit complaining and Go Your Own Way in whatever manner suits you best.
No Good Deed Goes Unpunished…..Just Seems to Work Itself Out That Way More Often Than Not…..
In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash
No Good Deed Goes Unpunished…..Just Seems to Work Itself Out That Way More Often Than Not…..
You bet your ass.
To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.
Helping women goes against my Feminist principles! A strong, independent woman should never need help from any man! You’re a misogynist if you’re a guy helping a woman…
Obviously there is no requirement one must help everyone. Or that anyone can make a moral claim on another to take care of them, except a child to a parent.
Te great thing about mgtow is being able to be selective about who we help, if anyone. You arent anyones savior, anyones retirement plan, anyones captain save a ho. You are free to help exactly who you want, gynosociety social conventions be damned.
At the same time, being mgtow doesnt mean being a complete asshole to everyone just because they exist. Some may think so but it is true you can be mgtow and not deliberately p~~~ people the f~~~ off. When you truly do not give a f~~~, you dont go out of your way to be an asshole to everyone. You just dont care, you are just you, and youre no trying to garner extra atention, good or bad, you are stealth, gray man, the guy who doesnt want to be noticed because life is better that way.
Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.
Yep.
I’ve been lead to believe that women are my equal, through all the indoctrination during my formative years.
I’ll accept that as long as it can be proven.
So if I’m asked to help, it indicates that I am capable of doing whatever is required, then she who is my apparent equal, is also capable of doing what is required and therefore doesn’t need my help.
Any objections and it’s “Hey! I’m giving you an opportunity here to demonstrate that equality that is often touted rather than just assume you are my lesser!”At the same time, being mgtow doesnt mean being a complete asshole to everyone just because they exist. Some may think so but it is true you can be mgtow and not deliberately p~~~ people the f~~~ off. When you truly do not give a f~~~, you dont go out of your way to be an asshole to everyone. You just dont care, you are just you, and youre no trying to garner extra atention, good or bad, you are stealth, gray man, the guy who doesnt want to be noticed because life is better that way.
Makes sense.
By actually making an effort to deliberately be an asshole, you *are* giving a f~~~, because you only put effort into the things you do give a f~~~ about.I don’t quite subscribe to the idea of “not giving a f~~~”, but rather “not giving a f~~~ about something that can’t be changed” and also “don’t take s~~~ from anyone”.
Humans (men and women) are (mostly) social creatures, it’s built into our instincts: we do need to rely on others from time-to-time, we need friends and to feel like part of a greater group for our well being.
The development of suitable laws and rules is so that we all get along in harmony – if we want to be part of that group, then we don’t against the others’ wills and p~~~ing them off as that leads to being alienated from the group which is undesirable.
Like this extreme feminism getting out of control, leads to men going there own way, and now there are signs that women are concerned about this as it effects there well being.Also, take this forum for example, all the damage that can be/has been done when members go rogue…
So I strive for balance, and be selective in who I help and in what manner, and make sure help is given only where it is needed.
As I pass by a woman broken down on the side of the road just about everyday, I say to myself , would she stop and help me? Nope. I am reminded daily about how strong women are and how they can do anything a man can do. Sometimes I wave as I pass doing 70……zoom!
We all have a super hero complex, we all have this foolish idea of “helping” to virtua signal how good we are.
Doubtful. Not everyone possesses this quality or has behavior of “Helping” that you are alluding to. Have you Heard of Billy from Nova Scotia?
There is a few books about it but I don’t think it goes much into his past as there is virtually nothing published about his first wife or early life. I don’t regard his actions unordinary. But it does make me wonder if there is a gene that can be isolated to this behavior or chemical. Maybe even a birth defect that might be undetectable on the surface.
In fact, I think that being kind is a survival instinct. For women, the tactic of manipulation is indeed a survival mechanism. In fact, the two are mutually beneficial in nature as one allows the other to exist between men and women.
The real question is doc, if we use phenobarbital sodium panthenol to elicit a state of non memory, during the careful introduction of those two c~~~tails, is it possible to observe a human being capable of inflicting pain and suffering if there was no recollection of that action to the human in the study? Arguably, they would not remember their actions and may indeed be unable to to act independently.
But if it was possible, could the removal of the instinct of protection of males for females or people in general lead to being able to find out how to isolate that brain function as being higher or lower portions? ; and therefor, make a drug to eliminate feelings or emotions? Arguably there are many factors of this study that need to be accounted for. But if we could Isolate the parts of the brain responsible for instincts, then maybe we could finally get to the bottom of if we indeed “feel” only due to our higher brain function. Or is it another chemical induced response not connected with higher brain function but mammalian instinct?
I would have to argue that most people do not act virtuous on their own accord. I think it’s rather a function of Selfishness. In fact, I beg the question if it is indeed at all “Good”.
My hypothesis is that the action to do good or even treat one fairly is in fact a matter of pride that separates man from beast so to speak.
In nature, animals follow their mating instinct. If in fact that was eliminated, would that person still exhibit positive traits of morality such as not wanting to cause the pain of beings or animals for pleasure or sport?In fact if that was known, we could possibly create an antidote that would be effective for all sorts of things. SMoking cessation, drug addiction etc.
In fact we could create a cure for the common heartbreak before we cure the common cold! It would render women’s Hypergamous actions useless against men.
In fact, I have witnessed that most Cocaine or drugs users of MDMA feel wonderful regardless of the current situation.
Also, the opposite is possible. In fact it may be the cure for women’s own immoral actions if they could feel the pain they cause. I’m not interested in relaivined anything, I am interested in severe moral torture. If they are alive, that person could be treated instead of being jailed. Therefore saving taxpayers millions.
Now if we look into how Common antidepressants work, and we use these to in fact tailor made these substances so that they only work on the particular persons in question and their Bodies chemistry, (i.r., only works on that person in the same way the body rejects foreign items but accepts others in the same way a bodies T-Cells selectively target foreign bodies) this would be a great way to treat hypergamy. In fact depresion. It would also induce pain if say for example foreign semen was ingested or contact with others by way of some kind of hormone excretion by other males for example.
It would be a great way to treat Depression in women for example, or be sold as such to cure menopause and aging since its effects cause a natural promotion of fertility.
You know Doc, I am sure there is an ICD-9 or 10 code that goes into diagnosing the various behaviors a woman does when she is being unfaithful, or wish to practice infidelity.
In fact, just like Depression affects millions, one could argue this could be a great way to solve that “Problem”.
Of course, I have no such motives in mind. You say you are evil. But really, Evil requires you to seek pleasure in pain and suffering. I don’t see that in you man. Nice try bro. Leave that up to the pro’s.
You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home
Life is a fight, we fight for resourcess, pussy, etc.
There is a difference between fighting for survival and fighting for relevance. You are doing the later. Sure you work, sure you protect yourself. But in the scope of things, our lives give value to others from the crack head to the doctor who heals the “sick” as an occupation. There is no Fight for pussy. Its freely available. If it was not, you would be on /R9k or /MLP instead of MGTOW.com
In fact, I would have to argue that if you are able to divorce yourself from emotional attachment like that is required to be in your profession, I would have to argue that in that case, a change of occupational specialty could do wonders for you. Even Bartering your service for exchange of said service women are known to provide for men.I see no shame in that since drug dealers follow the same exchange with very positive results of their clients. In fact, I have to say that if you ever want to see a woman at her best all the time, this noble exchange provides the best outcomes for both parties involved. Infact, it may be a great thing for women since you could also offer the service that every women wants. The ability to for once, really not have any accountability in the matter at hand since the guilt she feels for her infidelity is quickly displaced. You could even charge her for your service and time. Or you could just go be your casual self. Either way, fighting for pussy is as dumb as water bottle vending machines inside the Evian plant. Still, people do buy it.
TAKE EVERYTHING AND LEAVE NOTHING IM EXCHANGE.
This is actually quite noble. It means that you respect the laws of economics and trade. In fact, it means you are a Libertarian. And a great boon to our economic system. It ensures the quality of goods and services, and furthermore, discourges begging, laziness, and promotes value of men as a Valuable finite non renewable Resource that should be respected and spent wisely. This also stops communism, , inflates the value of men, their work & their time & resources and actions become a valuable commodity in the market.
In fact, it also helps stop crime, pollution, and overall leads to a stronger more resilient and worthwhile society that promotes teamwork and mutual participation of laws, order and so much more positives. You are also not wasting your resources on others who will not appreciate any of your hard work or contributions. Women even benefit from this arrangement as she no longer has to deal with the high cost of contraception either. And without that? you just helped some guy not get Cucked. Hell, this outlook stops world hunger.
I wold sell drugs to five years old if it was legal, i wold cut all the men in here open and sell their organs in the black market if it was legal, i wold own slaves and work them down hard (not to death, tgat aint good bussiness) if it was legal, i wold pimp every woman in this planet if it was legal, no remorse, no mercy.
And i hope you all wold do the same for me.
I would sell drugs to five years old if it was legal
They do this all the time time in the states. How about at 2 years old?i would cut all the men in here open and sell their organs in the black market if it was legal
i would own slaves and work them down hard
Your not original. Try Harder.i would pimp every woman in this planet if it was legal, no remorse, no mercy.
I love george soros, he is evil and not ashamed of it, but he is sincere, he knows the human nature, “if it wasn't me, it would be someone else” and he is right.
If they sell their soul for money, they were never worth much to begin with.No one in here is better, most of us are just a bunch of hipócrites anyway. GYOW and if it is an evil way, even better.
At a certain point, you have to ask yourself, if everyone else is doing it, is it evil anymore?
I can tell you carnage, once you see the world, evil does not mean what you think it does.You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home
Anonymous38I don’t take orders from anyone. I’ll help someone if I feel like helping them, not out of some bulls~~~ duty, but out of natural compassion, if I should happen to feel it at that time, or out of a perceived future benefit to myself.
I wold sell drugs to five years old if it was legal, i wold cut all the men in here open and sell their organs in the black market if it was legal, i wold own slaves and work them down hard (not to death, tgat aint good bussiness) if it was legal, i wold pimp every woman in this planet if it was legal, no remorse, no mercy.
This a community, if you would do that to the men in this forum then you don’t deserve to be in it.
You are a waste of oxygen. Worse, you are cancer.
I don’t take orders from anyone. I’ll help someone if I feel like helping them, not out of some bulls~~~ duty, but out of natural compassion, if I should happen to feel it at that time, or out of a perceived future benefit to myself.
THAT WHAT GOT US HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE! 🙂
Good people get f~~~ed over! It’s the law of the land.Just look at how many people were conveniently removed from the Gene Pool for being good people.
I would have to make the argument that life is more like this Sci Fi Show then Battlestar Galactica
You have to ask yourself, what is the morality behind abortion clinics? Even Male Circumcision where the parts of that tissue are used in just about everything. It reminds me of the Sci Fi Series Lexx in its entirety. It has this GRIM feeling it gives you everytime you watch an episode.
Kind of like how it is watching Tales of the Dark Side where more often you get this unnerving feeling that the world around you that you experience is not what is actually reality.
They guy failed in his suicide attempt. You don’t come back from that. You are never the same person afterwards.
This a community, if you would do that to the men in this forum then you don’t deserve to be in it.
You are a waste of oxygen. Worse, you are cancer.
Then you would have to make the argument that Nature is indeed evil. Apathy or more correctly described in action or words as “Leave it up to god” or Ying and the Yang or “God has a plan” is indeed the same line of thinking of sorts. In fact, the most evil thing a person can do is lie about the truth of his or her actions.
I am a good person. But only till I have the chance to not be one.
Strange, but I don’t fear death. I don’t even fear incarceration. What I do fear, is that any good I do, will only be met with more things that will end up being exactly the opposite of my good intent.
The only true good is Power. And that is why we are here. We are powerless in this community. Not due to not having the means of change, but in fact, any change or positive actions we do result in others repeating the cycle that brought us here.
I have no doubt that in the past, many good men gave their lives for us to have better ones. And what did we do with it? We took it for granted till one day, reality bit us in the ass.
That’s why I am so thankful for those that have learned from our mistakes, so they do not fall in the same trap and are actually moving humanity in a forward direction.
On a personal note, You know how sometimes you have to smile and just let people find their own problems even though it’s wrong? For example my son that wants to make a solar power car. Well? Its hard to tell a person it won’t work. But if you see that it does not work in action in real time and you get to experience that failure? Then you understand. Allowing people to find the same is what is best. He is neither a cancer nor is he a boon. He is just another wett back, trying to get off the farm.
You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home
Anonymous38I don’t take orders from anyone. I’ll help someone if I feel like helping them, not out of some bulls~~~ duty, but out of natural compassion, if I should happen to feel it at that time, or out of a perceived future benefit to myself.
THAT WHAT GOT US HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE!
Good people get f~~~ed over! It’s the law of the land.
Just look at how many people were conveniently removed from the Gene Pool for being good people.
I would have to make the argument that life is more like this Sci Fi Show then Battlestar Galactica
You have to ask yourself, what is the morality behind abortion clinics? Even Male Circumcision where the parts of that tissue are used in just about everything. It reminds me of the Sci Fi Series Lexx in its entirety. It has this GRIM feeling it gives you everytime you watch an episode.
Kind of like how it is watching Tales of the Dark Side where more often you get this unnerving feeling that the world around you that you experience is not what is actually reality.
They guy failed in his suicide attempt. You don’t come back from that. You are never the same person afterwards.This a community, if you would do that to the men in this forum then you don’t deserve to be in it.
You are a waste of oxygen. Worse, you are cancer.Then you would have to make the argument that Nature is indeed evil. Apathy or more correctly described in action or words as “Leave it up to god” or Ying and the Yang or “God has a plan” is indeed the same line of thinking of sorts. In fact, the most evil thing a person can do is lie about the truth of his or her actions.
I am a good person. But only till I have the chance to not be one.
Strange, but I don’t fear death. I don’t even fear incarceration. What I do fear, is that any good I do, will only be met with more things that will end up being exactly the opposite of my good intent.
The only true good is Power. And that is why we are here. We are powerless in this community. Not due to not having the means of change, but in fact, any change or positive actions we do result in others repeating the cycle that brought us here.
I have no doubt that in the past, many good men gave their lives for us to have better ones. And what did we do with it? We took it for granted till one day, reality bit us in the ass.
That’s why I am so thankful for those that have learned from our mistakes, so they do not fall in the same trap and are actually moving humanity in a forward direction.
On a personal note, You know how sometimes you have to smile and just let people find their own problems even though it’s wrong? For example my son that wants to make a solar power car. Well? Its hard to tell a person it won’t work. But if you see that it does not work in action in real time and you get to experience that failure? Then you understand. Allowing people to find the same is what is best. He is neither a cancer nor is he a boon. He is just another wett back, trying to get off the farm.No. People got f~~~ed over because they weren’t smart enough to avoid it. You can be good and smart.
Carnage is smart, but not good.
He is a cancer because like a cancer he would happily destroy his environment. And he infects others around with that destructive philosophy.
Nature is neither good or bad. it is amoral. Good and bad are concepts created by man. Most people understand what is good and bad.
‘We’ are ‘here’ because we listened / listen too much to women. Hell, just look around at how much of a man’s life is shaped by the women in it. Lol.
Smart?Doctors are Engineers that can’t draw straight lines.
Therefore, Carnage’s method of problem solving is most likely reverse physiology since this in his practice of medicine seem to have the best results.
In fact, I may be incorrect due to my analysis with limited data to go about. But I know when I see a pattern. And I can see clearly, that his claim that he does not care is hores~~~. And his claim that he wants the world to end is not the world itself, but the world that was built.
Good men can not accept the programming of our reality. It does not make sense to exist in a place that has no perception to fix the problem or injection nor cure as a vaccination to relive the issue altogether of our present s~~~y state as a human race.
In fact, we are all for the most part failures in our efforts to accept the slavery of our predicament.
Above, I gave carnage a clear way to not only move himself out of any kind of financial woes, but in fact become a millionaire if he so choose to do so.
But he won’t. To him, there is no point in life to move forward since the only thing that life is really about has been extinguished from his heart.
Sometimes, in order to change the world, we must care for the uncared for. And be nice to those who are misguided. Yes, it’s a dangerous game. But in fact, that is all it is.
Post Number #882695 has something only he will be able to understand clenery hidden in that post. If he in fact does keep up on medical literature, he will find something quite interesting he will look up.
But alas, the true beauty of life, is watching something grow. If the world see’s value in hopelessness, then so be it. I’m still irked that people have left due to his candor. But that’s not his fault. Honestly, I have to wonder if this place is sanctuary, or prison.
When MGTOW.com went down, I was happy. I even did things. Now, I am back to needing my crutch. I have not learned to live alone yet. Or be free. I am still here.
This place as Carnage puts it is for his amusement. That is a lie. I know it. he knows it. And whatever is said, he is no monster. Just a lost soul like the rest of us.
The point is, Cancer can be cut out, but as far as I know it has no cure. It can be controlled if treated early and regularly. It always shows signs of needing care. But to expel it from the body is from what I can tell, only able to be done if we can stop the damage from replicating the error in the first place.
If you want to cure a cancer, you get to the source. Simply cutting it out will not work. You must find the cause, patch the hole, and build an immunity to its vulbranilty that caused the problem in the first place.
Basically, you can snuff out a fire, you can put out a match. But the warmth of the sun always penetrates one way or another. You may never be able to see the light if your eyes are broken, but you can feel the warmth if you chose to walk in the light.
Even a blind man knows where the sun is. But only a man who feels nothing can live in darkness.
Not trying to be our famous poet on here, but I think you get the hint. Sometimes, even dead flowers produce seeds. And they grow quite wonderfully in s~~~. Sometimes, what we see as s~~~, is just fertilizer to grow better crops.
I say it again, every man has some kind of value, and every action and being has a place. However, it is our actions that determine its value. Like it or not, we are all masters of our lives. But we choose to let others make us into puppets.
You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home
As I pass by a woman broken down on the side of the road just about everyday, I say to myself , would she stop and help me? Nope. I am reminded daily about how strong women are and how they can do anything a man can do. Sometimes I wave as I pass doing 70……zoom!
As a motorcyclist, I stop for any/all fellow riders broken down out on the road.
Most of the time, they are just out of gas, so I’ll ride to (and back from) the next town for a can of gas.
Sometimes, due to a flat tire, or a broken chain/throttle cable, I’ll give them a ride to the next town.THIS ONE TIME, I stopped for a woman rider with a flat tire.
I offered her a ride into the next town.
She said “I don’t ride BITCH.”
I said “Good for you!”, hit the throttle, and left her there.If I saw a man and woman fighting in public, I would ignore it – and have before. There’s no way in hell I’m risking my own safety for some lippy c~~~ who probably wouldn’t even be grateful. I believe in minding my own business anyway, it’s not my place to make assumptions about something that doesn’t concern me. Especially when, regardless of how the scene appears from the outside, she’s not helpless at all. She has the entire advantage over him. If not physically, then socially. There are dozens of people who would intervene if things got violent, and as many guys on here have said already, there’s always the three failsafe numbers she can dial.
But if I saw a woman drowning, burning up in a crashed car, or about to fall off a cliff, I would do something. But I’d do that for anyone, not just a woman. I don’t think of it as chivalry, it’s basic decency. I admit I hold a lot of grudges against women and never intend to get involved with one of them again, but I still want to be a good person. I have a conscience and would feel awful if I let someone die. But it would have to be a pretty extreme situation – something where death would definitely happen if I didn’t act.
If it’s not a matter of life and death, then I’m going nowhere near it. So if a woman’s car breaks down, she’s struggling to lift something, or she’s fighting with her boyfriend in some public area, tough s~~~.
To see what is in front of one's nose requires a constant struggle. -Orwell
Anonymous38If you are living your life with the intent to ‘punish’ women, congratulations you are really controlled by them. You’ve changed who you are because of women’s actions.
F~~~ THAT. Protect yourself yes, live smart, but don’t be someone you’re not out of spite. That’s sad.
If under all the bulls~~~ you’re a kind hearted man, then have the b~~~~ to live authentically as a kind hearted man. If you’ve sworn off women anyway, what does it matter? There’s no cost. Actually the major benefit is it keeps c~~~s from getting close.
Too many of you think you can’t be nice cos you’ll be abused. That’s bulls~~~.
I always fear that I might save the life of someone who is evil…right down to their core…like an ex wife or something like that. I save her life, and she divorce-rapes some poor injured vet hero.
I couldn’t live with myself. LOL
BVC
Swallow this RED PILL ===> Men will lay down their lives for their brothers, their women and their children. This makes Men useful as slaves. Women will lay down their lives for ONLY their children. To expect more from women is just a FANTASY created by society and reinforced by the unconditional love that we experienced from our Mothers. The key to freedom is the understanding that the woman you meet is not going to fantastically love you like your Mother did. If you buy into the fantasy, then she is your new master. If you do not buy into the fantasy, then she is nothing, and you retain your freedom.
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