Don't be a MRA!

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

Who cares what women or other men think of us and please stop asking for solutions to gender problems. These problems have been all solved when you went your own way and stopped being a mangina. I personally don’t care if all other men get sucked in and lose all of their money because those who worship vagina deserve it. I will explain it by saying that simply, I don’t think it’s worth to save simps and betas. MGTOW is a self liberation philosophy not an army of men who will rescue you from your female master.

However, I do think it is important to inform men of the consequences of marriage. I do not think it is a good idea to fight for better marriage laws.

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[HitmanParticipant]

Ah, the MRA’s.
They want to fight for men’s rights. .
I’m tired of fighting for anything except my own personal freedoms. .
Let them go up against the establishment. .
The next half of my life is as much mine as I can make it.

[UintatheriumParticipant 1861]

I think that the Men’s Rights Movement is the second best part of the larger anti-feminist movement. I think that they are 95% right … but that extra 5% counts.

Most of what the MRAs say about modern gender relations is accurate. The modern feminist movement is full of misandry. Men who have been abused do face mockery.

The MRAs are wrong when they tell themselves “These problems can be fixed! I just need to argue with feminists! What could possibly go wrong?”

The MGTOW understand that these problems can’t be solved just by arguing by feminists and normies. We might be able to create change in the long term by getting the third world on our side. I want to put emphasis on the word might. This might just be another one of my nutty pipe dreams.

In the short term (or perhaps even the long term) we need to focus on our own lives and our friends.

The MRAs have the right info but they have drawn the wrong conclusion. They think “Misandry is everywhere, so we need to fight the system.” They should think “Misandry is everywhere, so I should focus on my male friends and be ready to help a brother out.”

The MRAs are wasting time arguing with feminists. They are making themselves feel good but they aren’t making any social change. They could spend that time learning about what friendship is all about. That might sound corny, but its true.

Being financially independent is a big part of MGTOW, but it isn’t the only important part because life isn’t just about money. Platonic friendship is a very important part of life. If you are a MGTOW, then you can embrace a very deep form of platonic friendship, since you don’t have romance distracting you.

MGTOW: because you can (and should) say anything about a woman as long as she isn't within earshot

[sidecarParticipant 35860]

Blue Skies wrote:

I don’t think it’s worth to save simps and betas.

Some simps are that way simply because they don’t know any better. They’ve fallen for the lies that have been shoved down their throats all their lives. I think it’s important to let these deceived men know the truth. From there it’s up to them to act upon it. If they are shown the truth and persist in their mangina ways, well then there’s no helping them, but at least the attempt was made.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink. But just because some won’t drink doesn’t mean we shouldn’t lead them to the water. If they want to die of thirst after that, well that’s not our problem. At least they can be another cautionary example to show other deceived men who might save themselves.

[AttonParticipant]

My men’s rights activism is promoting MGTOW.One more MGTOW means one less mangina and one more free man.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

MRAs and their war with feminism is a whole lot ado about nothing.

A tempest in a tea cup.

Aint going to amount to s~~~.

Gynocentrism is the issue.

Woman worshiping.

Pussy worshiping.

Failing to see the true nature of women..

And the fool men who feed into it.

The solution is simple and still complicated.

For men to just walk away.

No need to play a game of Thermo Nuclear War Dr Falken.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[Anonymous 0]

Blue Skies wrote:

Who cares what women or other men think of us and please stop asking for solutions to gender problems. […snipped]

I’m probably oversimplifying things. But as I see it, MRAs are basically political in nature, and I’m pretty much apolitical. I don’t want to get into the politics of men’s rights. MGTOW presents me with some pretty big freedoms and liberties. I just want to be kind of libertarian/anarchist and get the maximum out of those MGTOW freedoms and liberties without giving a s~~~ about other people’s opinions or worrying about the politics of my actions.

I don’t mind setting the example for other men by telling my story here at MGTOW.com and contributing opinions and posts for MGTOW. But I don’t really care about the politics of the movement. Like the lines from Hendrix’s song “If 6 was 9” I say:

I’m the one that’s gotta die when it’s time for me to die,
So let me live my life the way I want to.

[FermatParticipant 3478]

I am confident 90% of MRAs on the internet are married cucks or whipped men in relations~~~s who blog on male rights in secret from their fiances, girlfriends, and/or wives. There is NO Way any of the stuff they write about would EVER bode well with the misses. If those girls knew what they were watching and posting, they’d cut off the sex (if they haven’t already) and his b~~~~ (which likely ALREADY happened).

I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

I don’t know a lot about MRA.
I certainly don’t want to argue with feminists.
Sounds like it’s a good way to ruin a great day.

I agree with sidecar that it’s a good thing to mention MGTOW to deceived men searching for the truth as maybe a small subgroup will find truth and save themselves. I personally don’t mention MGTOW to men unless they ask for help or seem like they are searching for truth. I can just see some mangina running to his feminist master and telling her that I am MGTOW.

Nothing good comes from fighting the system or arguing with feminists. There are too many golf courses, too many roads, and too many beaches left to explore. Who cares if the feminists take over or do whatever it is they do? They can all dye their pits and gain 100 lbs and chant until nightfall. We have better things to do.

[Anonymous 54]

Spending your life arguing with feminist….Pass.

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

I don’t want to fight for fair!

Im out! Dropping to tools!!

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

MRA is a group of men who see the lies of women, and demanded that lie to be true.

Their weapons are complaining and recruiting other man to complain too. However they still does not shun marriage that still give power to the women and government.
Hence the women just let them complain will still making more bias laws. Even if they convert 100% of the man into MRA, nothing much will change with their tactics.

MRA does not increase happiness for men because they cannot do anything.

MGTOW is a group of men who see the lies of women, and walk away from the game.

Their weapons is walking away from the game and letting other man know about the rigged game so they shun marriage too. Without marriage as the resource extractor, they hit the women and government where they hurt most. If 50% of the men go MGTOW, the matricidal society will collapse as they will be too little men to feed the government. Women control 80% of the household spending, without a man wallet to enable them, there will be less taxes to the government.

MGTOW increase happiness in men because they teach men to focus on themselves and do things that improve themselves and make them happy.

PUA see the lies and take advantage of the lies.

Their weapon is feminist sexual liberation so it is easy to have sex, if you are attractive enough.

PUA does not really help men much because women will still go for the more attractive 20% men. PUA can only help a small number of men to pretend they are the top 20%. If every men step up their game PUA can help no men because women will go for the new top 20%.

PUA does not guaranty happiness because their mindset is to work and work more to get women. You can still be falsely accused of rape, Oops I am pregnant so come child support, drama and more drama of women.

In the end I conclude MGTOW is the best for men because they teach men to avoid the dangers of women and the government, how to be happy with themselves, how to be financially independent, how to resist the siren call of the matriarchy, hit women and government where it hurts so real change can be made…… for 2 or 3 generations later. Unless society collapse, we will not see it in our lifetime.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[Chaff/FlareParticipant 3235]

MRA, yawn. I got better s~~~ to do with my time. If I thought I could change the court system by fighting it, I would. This, is a much better strategy. And, you have the cash to bleed them in court if you have to

When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Blue Skies wrote:

I personally don’t care if all other men get sucked in and lose all of their money because those who worship vagina deserve it.

I would be a little more understanding there, because of the way women misrepresent themselves. You can’t really fault a guy for “falling for it” because he is conditioned since kindergarten.

Take the Disney cartoons … like Aladdin.

Have you really WATCHED that? Holy s~~~. The minute he sees her in the marketplace , he’s all “WWWOOOOOWWWW” and she hasn’t even done anything! He can’t even SPEAK to her properly and is tripping over his words like he suffers from “approach anxiety”. His eyes are all glazed over and he’s worshipping her for no reason, he white knights…. it’s pathetic. They grind this s~~~ into kid’s minds before they can formulate a thought.

For the longest time, I never understood why so many guys are all freaked out about talking to women and suffer from “approach anxiety”… and why women always behave like they are “not impressed” — even when guys jump through hoops for them.

Blame Walt F~~~ing Disney.

Blue Skies wrote:

I do not think it is a good idea to fight for better marriage laws.

Prevention is infinitely more effective. To argue it AFTER the fact is pointless. Even if they come to some “agreement” it’s still bulls~~~.

“OK, we won’t f~~~ you over SO badly. You can still visit your kids.”.

Gee, thanks.

NO. GET THE STATE/COURTS THE F~~~ OUT OF PEOPLE’S PERSONAL LIVES, OR MGTOW WILL MAKE SURE THEY WON’T EVEN GET ONE FOOT IN THE DOOR! SOLVED.

Chaff/Flare wrote:

If I thought I could change the court system by fighting it, I would

“Negotiating for better marriage laws” is still permitting them to have any say in the matter. Deny them that. Governments don’t negotiate with terrorists. So why would anyone else?

You don’t even need to be an “activist”.
Just a simple “no” is all that’s required.

“We need to talk!!!”.

“No. You need to LEAVE. There’s the door”.

Put it to them like that , and “the issue” exists no longer.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

I spent several days with all sorts of manosphere people.

MRA, FNF, Mgtow, False rape accused, Erin Pizzey, politicians etc etc.

Although I’m mgtow to the marrow, I was getting the impression that feminists are starting to get pushback from all sides now.

So it’s now Fathers rights people, male MPs, antifems all asking questions, finding data and calling out.

It seems that the Internet is starting to pull all these ideas together.

My lasting thought that if all these people are starting to organise the pressure on the feminazis to answer questions with facts, that can only be a good thing.

KM said a slut walk was cancelled. Women’s shelters are being shut to to lack of funds.

Radfems are being called out in MSM by the public and the victim status s~~~ is starting to crumble.

It’s not for me. My life is wonderful as a mgtow. I can think of no better life now.

However, I do have skills that can help ram all this crap back down those c~~~s throats … and I will offer my skills for free just for a ticket to the show.

We are in a recession and it will only get worse.

Someone said ‘you won’t see feminism is harsh environments’ …. and there’s a big fkg one right around the corner.

The feminist machince cost money … a fk load of it.

Sooner or later people will ask why it is costing billions each year to stop men looking at women. Why not just issue men with shades and women cover up from head to toe.

Meanwhile …. I’ll go play with my toys.

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