Donating sperm to lesbians

[VerityPhantomSpectator 263]

@keymaster 45 grand altogether you say? That is cheaper than what I found in the past. Wow, AND I get to bang a hot 18 year old too? That is one high priced hooker that’s for damn sure. Charles mentioned surrogates from other countries as well, I bet that would be a hell of a lot cheaper.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

I mean I have my own daughter who’s with me EVERY weekend. But it’s still a struggle, because she’s not being raised by me 71% of the time, she’s being indoctrinated in a low class public school, and her stupid mom gives her shots, feeds her GMO and crap against my will. I get some say and influence, but not much.
If I was to go for it, to get a full custody, homeschooling and control over his/her nutrition and medical treatment. If I can’t get it, it might be a good idea just to spread the seed as wide as you can and hope for the better without any financial or emotional investment, which is something sperm banks allow you to do

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

Judges can and do toss contracts like that out all the time. Only the interest of the child is of concern. Lesbian couples have the highest rate of divorce/separation. If and when these women split up, guess who the single mom is coming after for support. If you’re going to donate sperm, especially for free, do it anonymously at a sperm bank so the moms don’t know who you are. Finding out who you are is an extra layer of legal protection they will have to go through to get to you.

Why aren’t they going through proper professional channels to get pregnant? To save money? Not you problem. That’s a red flag right there. This is so obviously a mistake that it’s giving me a headache thinking about it. All risk and no gain for you. You think it will be your kid, but it won’t be. It’ll be theirs. And if you try to be in it’s life, that’ll only further put you at risk for support. If you want kids, find another way. Get a surrogate mother or something. Adopt.

I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[VerityPhantomSpectator 263]

@russky Shots you say? Are these your typical run of the mill vaccinations? As far as I know shots are mandatory in the states and most other countries. I do however understand where you’re coming from on that matter, I wouldn’t want my child overly vaccinated either as it damages your natural immune system. People have white blood cells for a reason I imagine.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

VerityPhantom wrote:

45 grand altogether you say

I’m quite sure it was $20K for one and $25K for the other. Don’t remember which but it was less than $50K about 8 years ago. (to be clear this is for ONE child for ONE of his brothers)

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Frank V.Participant 2445]

I was warned away from this when I found out that in most states, the father can be hit up for child support. There is seldom any contract you can sign that can release you from this.

From people I talked to and some research, this used to be far less risky in the past, again depending in state laws. But these days, no way !

I even had my lesbian cousin warn me off in the past because of some of her “friends”. She even heard some talk from a lesbian couple about getting a guy to donate or sleep with one of them with the intention of sticking him with the bill.

Avoid this like the plague.

Frank V.

[VerityPhantomSpectator 263]

@uchibenkei Yeah they told me that to go through proper channels would cost them too much, that was a bit of a flag for me as well. They said that it wouldn’t be “my” kid though, and I was fine with that if they want the child all to themselves so be it. The thing I was getting at here was I wanted to save myself some $$$ on paying for a surrogate so I was planning on altering the contract stating that when I am ready to have a child that they would be my surrogate no questions asked. But like I said before you guys are right. I just thought for a moment that I could get a kid of my own without the female drama, I don’t trust these lesbians to not f~~~ me over in the future. As for adoption, not interested, I want to see a piece of myself in my kid when the time comes. a lot of predators in the wild don’t raise other peoples cubs/kids/offspring. THEY EAT THEM!

[Frank V.Participant 2445]

I say skip having a child. But, if your heart is really set on it, I’ll quote the Pastor of my old church back in the day when infertile couples would ask him.

“Adoption is always an option !”

I did like that old man, religion aside. He give good advice. It’s not the DNA you give them that is important, it’s what you instill in them.

That’s the “piece of you” that really matters. Passing on DNA is something housepets do all the time, it’s not that impressive or unique.

Frank V.

[Anonymous 5]

uchibenkei wrote:

Judges can and do toss contracts like that out all the time. Only the interest of the child is of concern.

Family courts are about provision for the child.
It doesn’t matter if it’s a cast iron lesbian contract or a hetro prenup set in bronze.
They all go straight out the window when a child is born.

As well as highest rates of divorce, lesbians also have the highest rates of domestic violence and child abuse.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

VerityPhantom wrote:

@russky Shots you say? Are these your typical run of the mill vaccinations? As far as I know shots are mandatory in the states and most other countries. I do however understand where you’re coming from on that matter, I wouldn’t want my child overly vaccinated either as it damages your natural immune system. People have white blood cells for a reason I imagine.

Shots nowadays are far from being run of the mill vaccinations. It’s a slow kill bioweapon cash cow. Mercury, Aluminum, Formaldehyde, s~~~ty quality non inactivated genetically modified viruses and God knows what else they put in there.
My daughter was very vocal with speech and could make 3-letter words with magnets on my refrigerator before she received booster shots on a follow up visit. After that she’s been staying very quiet and couldn’t make any words until 2 years later. Well, at least she didn’t pick up seizures, allergies, asthma, MS or any other auto-immune bulls~~~ like other kids do. I will never forgive myself for going along with it. I did a lot of research about it since, but my ex-wife wouldn’t listen. I kept forwarding all the research I could find to her and begged her to opt out of vaccinations, and she promised she would do that. And then my daughter tells me she was getting shots anyways. And XW would deny it by lying to my face – SHE F~~~ING TOLD ME MY DAUGHTER WAS MAKING IT UP
I am really worried about when she turns 12 – I told her if they’ll try to poke her with Gardasil (HPV “vaccine” that doesn’t protect from HPV, but instead can cause infertility) – that she should resist and run away if necessary. I have tears in my eyes right now. My XW is a bitch. Government and pharma wants to make you dumb and sick. Make no mistake. You might be allright and nothing happens to you after shots, but it’s like a lottery – not everyone can withstand that, and quality varies wildly, since there is no QA. Giving s~~~loads of shots to pregnants or newborns is a crime against humanity
Autism and “SIDS” is exploding everywhere. China Japan India and other counties seen a spike of autism after introducing combination vaccines. Coincidence? No. Let’s call it for what it is – a f~~~ing brain damage

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[VerityPhantomSpectator 263]

@frank V. I disagree to an extent, I feel like we all have a genetic memory instilled within all of us. For example lets say a man is a good hunter, his son will be a good hunter too, and so the line goes of being a good hunter generation after generation. I call it genetic memory, just like lets say if a woman is attractive. Then her daughter will most likely be attractive as well and so on and so on. The piece of me that I want to pass on could be a learned behavior I’m sure, I just think why try to instill something in a kid that isn’t yours? What if that kids parents were bums or lazy or stupid? I don’t want to deal with that. I KNOW I’m strong, I KNOW I’m smart. So when I have a son he will more than likely be those things as well, the piece of me will already be in him when he is born. This is why if/when I am ready for a surrogate I want the mother to not be a piece of s~~~. As for skipping the child, I mean, that could be a possibility too. But only if I’m still poor by the time I’m in my 30’s, I just don’t find the idea of f~~~ing whores for the rest of my life as appealing. I’d like to share my empire with my offspring, I don’t want to die and have all my hard earned cash go to the government or some random relative who never even called. I think it would be nice to pass something down to someone I raised who I know has potential.

[The_Mad_PirateParticipant 1278]

@VeritiPhantom read about the “tender years doctrine”. A judge can nullify a contract based on that doctrine a hand over your ass on a silver plate.

"We didn't start the fire. It was always burning. Since the world's been turning" "A world that vilifies men only breeds a generation of men that feel no empathy towards women" “In a woman’s mind , there is really no such thing as a ‘we’. In her eyes, earth allways revolves around her, not the other way around. So thinking that your needs , aspirations or desires are valid enough to be persued, or even that you are entitled achive such goals, is like asking your boss for a pay rise in your very first day at the job.”

[VerityPhantomSpectator 263]

@Ordinaryguy Lesbians have the highest rate of child abuse and domestic violence? I did not know that… That is so strange, I always thought lesbians were cowardly pussies. Who would have thought they were violent? Good to know my man, good to know.

[Masculine_ManParticipant 2735]

First off I can not believe I am reading this. One, never mind the fact they can hit you with child support not if but when times get rough. Never mind the fact that means you will give up a large part of your future earnings for such a gamble. WHY WOULD YOU CONTRIBUTE TO ANOTHER FATHERLESS CHILD IN THIS WORLD?

Think for one second who they are, lesbians. Do you think they will instill a milliliter of manliness in him if it’s a boy? Or feminine lady traits if it’s a girl? No matter what, they will teach this new life men are the enemy and you will be an accomplice to that. Your DNA will weaken as a result of this influence because the child would be raised by man hating lesbians. Even if you were to try and convince me they are not man hating lesbians the potential for the environment to expose them to such will be there. If it becomes a boy, he would be groomed to be gay. Product of his environment. Likely would get molested a few times. If it were to be a girl, either another lesbian or a major slut that was longing for some male connection. Do you really want to contribute this to the world?

Last, they are a lesbian couple. Undeserving of your DNA. We are attracted to a certain look because they bring the healthiest offspring. An androgynous cesspool of STD infected Uterus that traded in real c~~~ for a plastic one with batteries is not a place for a new life to come from. Do not contribute to this s~~~ty idea.

If it costs you your peace of mind, then it is too expensive.

[Anonymous 12]

I wouldn’t do it. Whatever the laws are now in your country and how water tight you think that contract is things can change and you can end up having to pay for these kids.

Asides from the financial aspect, do you really want your offspring being raised by lesbians, to be brought up most likely with idiotic Left Wing ideologies and grow up to be the very people that made you gravitate to MGTOW in the first place?

I don’t know why you want a kid, but I can’t think of why having a kid that you will probably never see, have nothing to do with, is being raised by people you probably disagree with politically serves any purpose to you at all?

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

To HELL the F~~~ to the NO.NO f~~~ing way.
You have got to know that if you p~~~ one of those lesbians off you are in hot water!!

Find a better class of friend!

Those women are an accident waiting for a place to happen.
http://www.advocate.com/crime/2014/09/04/2-studies-prove-domestic-violence-lgbt-issue.

http://www.pandys.org/articles/lesbiandomesticviolence.html

Being and getting personal with women especialy lesbians is a realy bad idea.If they feel comfortable enough to come to you with something THAT personal then you are in a hazardus situation and dont know it yet.
You are being tested and tinkered with in a subtle way.Women are much more subtle than we are.

Being a single father is no romp in the park.You worry about expenses?Try medical,dental,daycare.Days off work because of having a sick kid.Hours you cant work because you have to pick up your kid at a certain time.Nights you dont sleep because feeding a baby or kid is sick.

I went through it.

If you trust those women with your sperm then you are a FOOL!

They can go to a sperm bank.I just looked at the prices.If they can afford to take care of a child,they can easily afford a sperm bank.You are being played.

Damn i hope that my words are not going in one ear and out the other.But i really suspect they are.

See a family law attorney about surrogacy.And then think real f~~~ing hard about what you are doing.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

If you think your DNA is that importannt then consider Sperm Bank Donation.Anything to say would be foolishness.
Have at it.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[AttonParticipant]

Just don’t and don’t ever think about it.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[The_Mad_PirateParticipant 1278]

@verityphantom My mistake. I meant the “Best Interests Doctrine”. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_interests

"We didn't start the fire. It was always burning. Since the world's been turning" "A world that vilifies men only breeds a generation of men that feel no empathy towards women" “In a woman’s mind , there is really no such thing as a ‘we’. In her eyes, earth allways revolves around her, not the other way around. So thinking that your needs , aspirations or desires are valid enough to be persued, or even that you are entitled achive such goals, is like asking your boss for a pay rise in your very first day at the job.”

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

This is an unbelievably bad idea. You gain nothing but risk everything.

VerityPhantom wrote:

I’ll sign a contract stating that they can’t come after me for child support etc…

They won’t be the ones coming after you for child support when they inevitably have some petty lesbian fight and split up.

The state will.

And the state won’t give a f~~~ about any contract you or anyone else signed. You will be 100% on the hook for a child that you will have zero rights to but every responsibility for.

Why the hell would you even consider this?

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