Does the Manosphere Hate MGTOW?

[President CamachoParticipant 941]

I just thought I’d ask this honestly.

On other forums, women of course hate MGTOW and think that everyone on the site lives in their mother’s basement and has no job, blah blah blah. I’m sure you’ve heard and seen it all by now.

But I find myself coming across a lot of hatred amongst other male dominated forums and I can’t understand it. Most of these sites seem to arrive at the same consensus that this one does regarding women’s rights, the feminist movement, etc. Yet there seems to be a lot of trashing of MGTOW on these same places. I’ve read comments along the lines of “thank God their genes won’t be replicated” and “betas retreat, they watch porn, they MGTOW.” It’s almost as if they still have hope that society will be functional with draconian anti-male legislation everywhere. As far as I can tell, this website isn’t contributing to the problem at all.

A Western marriage that survives in the current year is an act of mercy and compassion by the woman.

[Anonymous 42]

Spot on! We don’t give a s~~~ about them but they sure do obsess over us!

We’re having all the fun and they’re just jealous!

[Anonymous 24]

President Camacho wrote:

I’ve read comments along the lines of “thank God their genes won’t be replicated” and “betas retreat, they watch porn, they MGTOW.”

That’s funny. What, are they all Alphas on these other sites??? I highly doubt it.

They are just cannon fodder for women and the State. I care not to analyze their delusion. Fine by me if they keep taking bullets while the heat stays off me.

[Anonymous 16]

Well i got a lot of colleagues, all Doctors, since im monk mode, they shame me, and tell me things like “come see me i will get you t~~~ for free you pussy”
They are constantly chasing women around, they live for sex, but is like a competition ¿who gets more pussy?…
I dont see it like strength anymore, they look like craving addicts to me.

Soo i think they hate us couse we are like recovered AA, we like the pussy but if we dont get it its like… mehhh… who cares?

[Anonymous 0]

President Camacho wrote:

But I find myself coming across a lot of hatred amongst other male dominated forums and I can’t understand it.

Here’s a thread on the subject from a couple days ago: /forums/topic/another-rant-from-return-of-kings/#post-289321

[UintatheriumParticipant 1861]

For the record, there a ton of infighting all over the manosphere. The MRAs sometimes lash out at us because they think we are too harsh towards female MRAs.

That being said, most of the anti-MGTOW talk in the manosphere comes from either tradcons or PUAs. Both of them are mad about our sexual liberation.

We are also hated by “love-shy incel” losers but they are easily ignored. It’s hard to take a man seriously when he is literally a wuss begging for sex.

MGTOW: because you can (and should) say anything about a woman as long as she isn't within earshot

[Anonymous 24]

Had another thought-

You will find more Veterans of the game here I bet than anywhere else. I would bet my left nut that the average age here is considerably higher than on these other sites. So, you are likely bumping into more indoctrinated young kids on other sites, rather than guys who have been around awhile and see that the game is rigged and decide to walk away from the table to varying degrees. It also doesn’t mean everyone here is sexless, only the Monks are, and even that extreme is respected here, because most here know what a woman can drive a man to when she has the power of the State behind her. What men here have in common is that they are against entering into a three way contract with a woman and the State. Everything beyond that is variable.

[Anonymous 54]

I’ll never understand it. We tip the supply and demand factor in there favor for them.We give them more clout,more leverage power on the market. We help them,inevertanly, but it it still helps them. I don’t get it…????

[President CamachoParticipant 941]

Thanks for clearing the air guys.

On another note, I don’t know why anyone could bash living in a basement like this.

A Western marriage that survives in the current year is an act of mercy and compassion by the woman.

[Anonymous 24]

Ha, awesome, needs some guns on the walls though and some Farrah Fawcett posters. Yes, I am old.

[Mr. ManParticipant 2916]

Anonymous wrote:

Ha, awesome, needs some guns on the walls though and some Farrah Fawcett posters. Yes, I am old.

I was always partial to Jaclyn Smith. Yes, I am old, too.

[TattooDaveParticipant 6952]

Remarks are not pussy addicts anymore. I think that is what really p~~~es these guys off. I am a 57 year old man and I have been retired for the last 20 years I definitely live in my own house own my own stuff and enjoy life thoroughly without a young lady to interrupt and make trouble. Oh yes we all have tried that whole Pua Alpha bulls~~~ butt it really just wears you out and doesn’t do anything for your personality your wallet or your spirituality if you have that. Good posted

I can see their heads have been twisted and fed with worthless foam from the mouth. Bob d

[Anonymous 24]

Mr. Man wrote:

Joe Bauers wrote:

Ha, awesome, needs some guns on the walls though and some Farrah Fawcett posters. Yes, I am old.

I was always partial to Jaclyn Smith. Yes, I am old, too.

Ah, another Angel… I am pretty sure I got my first hard on watching that show as a kid. If not, then it was certainly Heather Thomas from The Fall Guy.

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[DorkShitParticipant 4353]

President Camacho wrote:

But I find myself coming across a lot of hatred amongst other male dominated forums and I can’t understand it

I wouldn’t know about their hate because I don’t go to those sites.

I am an old man. I only see devastation for men. Reading or arguing against their hate would be the equivalent of stabing myself in the eye with a number two pencil.

They hate because they want.
Force is all they know.

The force is strong with them.
They have much to learn.

Thank you for taking the time to question and learn.

When you learn to go your own way there will be no force.
That, I believe is our secret

Peace brothers

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

the other guys are mostly tradcons who miss the old days, or they are PUAs.

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

President Camacho wrote:

On other forums, women of course hate MGTOW and think that everyone on the site lives in their mother’s basement and has no job, blah blah blah. I’m sure you’ve heard and seen it all by now.

They NEED to tell themselves that s~~~. Else their f~~~ing brains would explode.

Consider criticizer of MGTOW — MATT FORNEY — from “Return of Kings”.
Jesus titty-f~~~ing Chipotle. That’s supposed to be an authority on “game”?
He can shut the f~~~ up for life.

“My mother’s basement” is 2500 miles away. And I lived in 6 cities internationally. MGTOW can’t get laid? Is another farce. I dated a famous porn star before she became a porn star. Before she even got fake boobs. They sell a mold of her holes in sex shops but I had the real thing. You could even say I was the one who taught her how to f~~~! So if they have any questions about that, they can ASK.

How f~~~ed in the head would you need to be to go on record and write an essay about a group of people you never met, spoke to, or ask questions of, while pretending to know their sexual history.

INSANE.

Not getting laid is not exclusive to MGTOW anyway.
Plenty of outwardly attractive women can’t get laid – or even a date.

They have no f~~~ing idea what they are talking about.

There are soldiers, doctors , military men , teachers, professors, anesthesiologists, PILOTS , Police, HELICOPTER PILOTS, firemen, owners of their own YACHTS and the finest caliber of man you can find are members here. None of them live in their mother’s f~~~ing basement. I can promise you that.

I exchanged messages with a MGTOW who actually lives on his yacht.

Sure there are men here who are students in school and some are out of work too. But marital/ employment / residential status is not even the point, and plays no role in the merit of an argument. Whether you live in your mother’s basement or in a beach house in Malibu….. 1 + 1 still = 3.

These people who go on about MGTOW living in their mother’s basements are intellectual retards.

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We also received an email like this a few days ago from a woman:

President Camacho wrote:

thank God their genes won’t be replicated

To which you can always reply….. “Why are you pretending a great number of MGTOW are not fathers? Where do you think all that paternity fraud comes from? Maury Povich made a CAREER out of that s~~~. You know who’s not getting laid? BOYFRIENDS AND HUSBANDS. You f~~~ing moron. How do you know I don’t have kids when even I can’t be completely sure? After all, it’s still legal in this country for a woman to allow herself to get pregnant without a man’s consent. So what the f~~~ are you going on about???? “

We didn’t hear back from her of course.
Because she can’t AFFORD to respond.

Does the Manosphere Hate MGTOW?

Who cares. But if they do, they have no reason to. We didn’t give them the opportunity and reached out to them FIRST.

Have you even been “the better man” and noticed how much people HATE that? Have you ever offered your hand to someone who just didn’t want to accept help from you – even when they were ASKING FOR IT? Have you ever been kind to someone who just doesn’t like you? Have you ever smiled at someone who walks around with a permanent scowl?

Same thing.

They just need to dislike you to function.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Chaff/FlareParticipant 3235]

The genius of MGTOW is that they have nothing to fight. Everyone has met the psyco that will just make up a whole story in her mind, cry etc to get a reaction out of YOU. That’s just gone. Someone used the fire triangle analogy- take away the o2 (attention)and fuel (anything you say to her) and the heat she brings creates no fire-brilliant.

The “meh” about sex, in my case, has come from reading the s~~~ guys/I have gone through or might go through. My mind conversion ha been incredible. The hottest chick could spread her legs and I would be disgusted, not tourned on….I encouraged it, allowed it, and welcomed it. A purposeful effort to liberate my thinking time.

Now do I think this will work long term? No, because we would die off, and those that did reproduce would create more followers.

I do happen to believe it’s part of an overall social engineering strategy that’s as old as wooden underwear- divide and conquer. It was sophisticated and simple in that the women’s lib movement told women that their lives sucked and men are to blame, then let them run. My point is that the social engineers didn’t say ” create laws to f~~~ men, take away kids, turn your boys into girls”etc. It was simple propaganda and good engineering to let them run with it. And so here we are today. Its much easier to take over a society when the women run it, and the men won’t defend them. Look at Europe.

Alas, here we are. Too many women have bought into it, too many men waste time fighting them in court and on the street with words. It’s going to have to burn. They can say what they want about us, I will continue to allow myself to be disgusted by them and I will raise my children the best way I can.

When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

[NerevarParticipant 8040]

Chaff/Flare wrote:

The genius of MGTOW is that they have nothing to fight. Everyone has met the psyco that will just make up a whole story in her mind, cry etc to get a reaction out of YOU. That’s just gone. Someone used the fire triangle analogy- take away the o2 (attention)and fuel (anything you say to her) and the heat she brings creates no fire-brilliant.

The “meh” about sex, in my case, has come from reading the s~~~ guys/I have gone through or might go through. My mind conversion ha been incredible. The hottest chick could spread her legs and I would be disgusted, not tourned on….I encouraged it, allowed it, and welcomed it. A purposeful effort to liberate my thinking time.

Now do I think this will work long term? No, because we would die off, and those that did reproduce would create more followers.

I do happen to believe it’s part of an overall social engineering strategy that’s as old as wooden underwear- divide and conquer. It was sophisticated and simple in that the women’s lib movement told women that their lives sucked and men are to blame, then let them run. My point is that the social engineers didn’t say ” create laws to f~~~ men, take away kids, turn your boys into girls”etc. It was simple propaganda and good engineering to let them run with it. And so here we are today. Its much easier to take over a society when the women run it, and the men won’t defend them. Look at Europe.

Alas, here we are. Too many women have bought into it, too many men waste time fighting them in court and on the street with words. It’s going to have to burn. They can say what they want about us, I will continue to allow myself to be disgusted by them and I will raise my children the best way I can.

Pussy started to bore me. Had three gf’s and only one felt tight, the one who admitted she had 8 boyfriends before me. Two others said they were virgins, but “hotdog down hallway”-style. F~~~ it. I’ve been over/done with pussy 5 years ago and don’t see myself dipping into a cesspool ever again.

"One of the best things internet exposed is just how insane women are." - Freeman_K

[HitmanParticipant]

Keymaster wrote:

Have you even been “the better man” and noticed how much people HATE that? Have you ever offered your hand to someone who just didn’t want to accept help from you? Have you ever been kind to someone who just doesn’t like you? Have you ever smiled at someone who walks around with a permanent scowl?

yes.
the high road .
less traveled.
better view as well,
like the incredible view i have from the bay windows in my home.
.
left mom’s house at 18.
went to college and worked full time, at the same time.
i could go on and on..
i believe member chir has a signature that really sums it up.
we are MGTOW,we eat shaming tactics like tic tacs ..
.
i love that !

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Hitman wrote:

left mom’s house at 18.

I started my working life in Amsterdam – the Netherlands. Moved there when I was 18. My mother would have preferred that I lived in her basement, but the world was too big for me to stay put.

I even went to middle/high school in other city, so I didn’t really live with my parents AT ALL since I was 11.

All you can do with these morons is point and laugh.

Roosh V lives with his Mom, though.

He’s 36.

The Fatt Horny’s, the Rooshes, the Elams and the “Return of Kings” opinion on MGTOW is totally irrelevant. They made sure of that themselves. In the future, if they have any QUESTIONS, they may ASK.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

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