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Was thinking about this today, and keying in on where things started going south in my relations~~~.
Does she even try any more? Does she put on makeup, does she clean up to meet you or go out with you? Does she make an effort to be ‘sexy’ any more…
If your answer is not a resounding yes… the writing is on the wall.
Your turn is ending if you are asking these questions, or if the answers to them are anything other than yes… time to ride out of town.
No longer can we walk away, we must run. Remove the motive power.
It always amazes me when I think back to how much she DID and WANTED TO DO in ALL areas.
It’s all part of the TRAP.
AWALT LOL LOL LOL
In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash
Going through my divorce, I read the following somewhere (I’m paraphrasing). If you want something you have to give it. It doesn’t guarantee you’ll get it back, but if you don’t give it you won’t get it. You want attention? Then give someone your attention. If you want love you have to give love. If you want respect, you have to respect the person you’re looking for respect from. If you give it and don’t get it, then move on, that person doesn’t care about you.
When I read that it felt like 100 pounds of weight had been lifted off my shoulders. Because it was at that moment I realized that my ex quit on me years before I quit on her. I gave all those things and didn’t get them back for years.
Does she even try any more? Does she put on makeup, does she clean up to meet you or go out with you? Does she make an effort to be ‘sexy’ any more…
The blue pill will tell you that she’s now so comfortable with you and realizes that you really do love her just for her and not her looks that you’ve reached a new level in your relationship. It’s a new level all right, just not the one you think it is.
She’s quitting on you.
Order the good wine
I explained to a guy the other day how him not marrying or cohabitating with his girlfriend keeps the pressure that he could leave any time. Without that pressure you’re a slave.
Murph ~ There is nothing brave or manly about entering into a contract with somebody which allows them to take your money, assets, children, and decades of your future income on a mere whim.
I explained to a guy the other day how him not marrying or cohabitating with his girlfriend keeps the pressure that he could leave any time. Without that pressure you’re a slave.
Kudos.
That is exactly my strategy.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
I can relate to this , had been married 6 months went away for a week working, arrived back she was in full slob mode…
Why get married or even have kids. WOMEN are this way. Carnage posted a video on WHY men are not getting married. Why would you? ALL women do this. They only keep it up as long as they know there’s competition. You make it again that women get left cold and dry, and it still will not work.
The culture is to far gone.
It hurts for me to say this, but as soon as there is a new man, she will start doing things she never did before. F~~~ it. Why not just go on dates and get the best of a woman, and not the Half ass s~~~ if you are willing to go through that crap.
You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home
Yes… ALL the Ladies I visit try their best to make me feel welcome, relaxed, zen, and that, even before I pull out my wallet. Today, I’ve decided on the petite olive-skinned brunette, blue-eyed Romanian.
“Oh, cool, it’s you.” she says with an accent, smiling as she opens the door to her appartement.
Standing erect and visibly proud of her perky breasts, she holds a clean hot towel ready for me when I step into the corridor leading toward her boudoir. She smiles as my eyes roam the curves of her young tight body and she points to the bathroom. It’s clean, it smells like flowers every time. She bends forward to start the hot water then turns over and hugs me for a few minutes.
Then I get naked faster than the Flash and jump into the waiting hot bubble bath AAAAAAAhh… relax and empty the mind of all the bullsh!t out there. She asks if I want her to rub me all clean and I give her the choice back. She nods, smiles and proceeds. She knows me as well as any Lady I’ve been visiting in these city quarters for the past 5 years. She knows I don’t mess with any of those “respectable” hoes out there and that’s why I come see her once in a while. That thought seems to amuse her or she’s already thinking 20mins ahead.
After the bath, she comes back with another hot towel, hands it to me with a smile and disappears into her chambers. I know it’s gonna be a hot two hours and I’m happy not to be spending this time with one of those self-entitled whores who pretend to be respectable and, worse, irreproachable.
I get into the bedroom and am greeted by a sight worthy of Rome’s decadence… All for the fraction of the cost it would take to date one of those hoes for a month.Fellas, if your woman isn’t treating you like you’re the last man on planet Earth then she ain’t worth sh!t and certainly not worth a minute of your time.
Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!Or she can make herself look sexy and go out without you. Multiple “ladies nights” during the week is a sign.
A woman can dump a man who is healthy, is sociable, is admired by her friends/relatives, treats her with respect, has a job with a good salary, has future goals that he is able to achieve, etc. She can dump a man with all these great qualities on a whim and go riding off into the sunset with a man who’s an abusive drug addict or a thug with multiple prisons sentences. If you try to use logical thinking to figure her out, you’ll end up as insane as she is.
It’s all about what FEELS GOOD at the moment. Past promises and contracts mean nothing to these bimbos. And if you live in a society that allows women to flake out on marriage contracts without penalties, you’re screwed.
If your girlfriend dumps you, it’s sad, but at least you still get to keep your money and lifestyle. And you’re free to date other women. You might end up dating a woman that’s easier to get along with. That would be a bonus.
"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)
Fellas, if your woman isn’t treating you like you’re the last man on planet Earth then she ain’t worth sh!t and certainly not worth a minute of your time.
This is the Saddest thing ever to men that are coming to the Red Pill and are still Blue Pilled. It’s hard to imagine that as a man, you would do this for a woman time and time again. You love her. You Cherish her. But Slowly, she gets tired of you.
You know, I use to feel MAD jelly about my Ex and how she was f~~~ing other men on the side. But then I thought about something. What are the chances she is going to do that for another man? Zero.
What you described was amazing. But the truth is, women are made to serve you. And if you do happen to get a Pro that does this? All the better.
I was actually thinking about that today. I’m sore from the other day working all day. My hands have a blister on them, and I really wish I had someone who was there in the morning when I woke up to get me coffee, make me some Breakfast, and massage me as a way of waking me up.
Thing is, it was Wonderful. And I loved waking up this way. And I did it quite often for her as well. Thing is, there is going to be NO man that is going to do that. But women? Just meet a new one, and you can get this all day long. And just keep switching it up.
Thing is, when you pay to play, you really do get way more than with a “Respectable woman” And it’s something that you just can not get in a realtions~~~. Try as you may, women that start out Hot, Fizzle.
The horrible Human tragedy in all this is stems from women not being Thankful for what they have. And it shows. For women, once they get a man, there is no race to keep him. After children, there is no more competition for her. In a way, you can almost understand why women must be unfaithful as a prerequisite to a steady relationship with a man. In fact, the Military should start calling Marriage for what it is. And should compensate men since you KNOW their wives are f~~~ing around on them. But I guess the real enemy is at home so to speak.
In many ways, the family is going to die. And there really is not that much there to save it. There is no War. There is no Severe strife. And women no longer are kept in line by men. And if one guy senses an opportunity that he can be an Eskimo Brother, then he will. Before, men did not like having other men’s second hand spoils. That time is LONG GONE.
I remember having my best friend’s wife over, and she wanted to sleep in the same bed as me and her sister. I had to Leave the room as I found out that she was trying to f~~~ around with me. I don’t f~~~ around with Married women. Not going to happen.
But other men? Why care? All women are whores anyways, you are not getting any different. Heck, that is why DDJ did it. It’s the thrill I guess for some men of conquering or whatever goes through a man’s mind that gets him off on it.
Thing is, anytime a man feels like he has a good thing going, it’s only as good as long as she is excited by you. After that time goes by, it fades for her quickly.
And with all this Data that the drugs that women are put on ruin their Bonding instincts? Then adding all the rest to the myriad of problems of the modern day relationship?
Yea. Time for a Stiff drink. Sucks when you wasted so much time to just find out it was for nothing. I know one day, I will truly as some other men feel, Way better off. But that little part of you that remembers just how wonderful it was, just keeps on rearing its head. Giving you doubt. It tears you apart some days. Even though you KNOW that you are so much better off, your mind still wishes it could go back.
The only real bright lining of our lives is that we will soon have “women” just like that. And as much as we want to say they are not real, I don’t think it matters if it makes you feel good. Or carefree. The DAY they make synthetic Female A.I. Companion bots that are indistinguishable from women in form, partly functional minus the need for an artificial womb? I don’t see men ever thinking of women anything but an experience in long term futility.
How can anyone take a woman seriously when we all have a century of proof that women were a failed old relic from the past? She gets old faster than you do. She gets bitchy all the time. And she gets angry for no reason. She can not stay loyal, she gets sick more often. And she has this horrible problem of never being able to actually commit. Strange that women always want that. But it’s only to get what they see as a Long term exit plan. A bait and switch. One that, once she has you? She no longer feels anything for you but resentment.
It truly is a sad world. And ONE that we can not ignore any longer. Women have sadly grown out of date at least for men. And there is just no escaping the fact that women are indeed simply not able to cope with what they have achieved. Sad really if you think about it. They worked so hard to have this dream lifestyle. And once they had it, they no longer want it. And they can never go back. It’s like the ultimate tragedy of life.
Romeo and Juliet at least went out knowing they loved each other. Sad as it may be, there story never will have an ending. Sounds weird. But its true.
Lets hope that for us men, we to soon have the option of spending our lives with a being that truly is worthy of us. Man that sounds pompas if you think about it.
You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home
Fellas, if your woman isn’t treating you like you’re the last man on planet Earth then she ain’t worth sh!t and certainly not worth a minute of your time.
This is the Saddest thing ever to men that are coming to the Red Pill and are still Blue Pilled. It’s hard to imagine that as a man, you would do this for a woman time and time again. You love her. You Cherish her. But Slowly, she gets tired of you.
You know, I use to feel MAD jelly about my Ex and how she was f~~~ing other men on the side. But then I thought about something. What are the chances she is going to do that for another man? Zero.
What you described was amazing. But the truth is, women are made to serve you. And if you do happen to get a Pro that does this? All the better.
I was actually thinking about that today. I’m sore from the other day working all day. My hands have a blister on them, and I really wish I had someone who was there in the morning when I woke up to get me coffee, make me some Breakfast, and massage me as a way of waking me up.
Thing is, it was Wonderful. And I loved waking up this way. And I did it quite often for her as well. Thing is, there is going to be NO man that is going to do that. But women? Just meet a new one, and you can get this all day long. And just keep switching it up.
Thing is, when you pay to play, you really do get way more than with a “Respectable woman” And it’s something that you just can not get in a realtions~~~. Try as you may, women that start out Hot, Fizzle.
The horrible Human tragedy in all this is stems from women not being Thankful for what they have. And it shows. For women, once they get a man, there is no race to keep him. After children, there is no more competition for her. In a way, you can almost understand why women must be unfaithful as a prerequisite to a steady relationship with a man. In fact, the Military should start calling Marriage for what it is. And should compensate men since you KNOW their wives are f~~~ing around on them. But I guess the real enemy is at home so to speak.
In many ways, the family is going to die. And there really is not that much there to save it. There is no War. There is no Severe strife. And women no longer are kept in line by men. And if one guy senses an opportunity that he can be an Eskimo Brother, then he will. Before, men did not like having other men’s second hand spoils. That time is LONG GONE.
I remember having my best friend’s wife over, and she wanted to sleep in the same bed as me and her sister. I had to Leave the room as I found out that she was trying to f~~~ around with me. I don’t f~~~ around with Married women. Not going to happen.
But other men? Why care? All women are whores anyways, you are not getting any different. Heck, that is why DDJ did it. It’s the thrill I guess for some men of conquering or whatever goes through a man’s mind that gets him off on it.
Thing is, anytime a man feels like he has a good thing going, it’s only as good as long as she is excited by you. After that time goes by, it fades for her quickly.
And with all this Data that the drugs that women are put on ruin their Bonding instincts? Then adding all the rest to the myriad of problems of the modern day relationship?
Yea. Time for a Stiff drink. Sucks when you wasted so much time to just find out it was for nothing. I know one day, I will truly as some other men feel, Way better off. But that little part of you that remembers just how wonderful it was, just keeps on rearing its head. Giving you doubt. It tears you apart some days. Even though you KNOW that you are so much better off, your mind still wishes it could go back.
The only real bright lining of our lives is that we will soon have “women” just like that. And as much as we want to say they are not real, I don’t think it matters if it makes you feel good. Or carefree. The DAY they make synthetic Female A.I. Companion bots that are indistinguishable from women in form, partly functional minus the need for an artificial womb? I don’t see men ever thinking of women anything but an experience in long term futility.
How can anyone take a woman seriously when we all have a century of proof that women were a failed old relic from the past? She gets old faster than you do. She gets bitchy all the time. And she gets angry for no reason. She can not stay loyal, she gets sick more often. And she has this horrible problem of never being able to actually commit. Strange that women always want that. But it’s only to get what they see as a Long term exit plan. A bait and switch. One that, once she has you? She no longer feels anything for you but resentment.
It truly is a sad world. And ONE that we can not ignore any longer. Women have sadly grown out of date at least for men. And there is just no escaping the fact that women are indeed simply not able to cope with what they have achieved. Sad really if you think about it. They worked so hard to have this dream lifestyle. And once they had it, they no longer want it. And they can never go back. It’s like the ultimate tragedy of life.
Romeo and Juliet at least went out knowing they loved each other. Sad as it may be, there story never will have an ending. Sounds weird. But its true.
Lets hope that for us men, we to soon have the option of spending our lives with a being that truly is worthy of us. Man that sounds pompas if you think about it.Another great post, Mickey.
Now don’t get me wrong, I would much rather what I described happen between me and a girlfriend or even better, a wife, but we both know it isn’t possible these days. Odds are I’m the one who’d be required to do all that for her and for what? To wake up one day under a bridge and having to pay out the rest of my food money for the month to someone who’d brake my heart to pieces, got me arrested and convicted to pay up until my last breath?
No fuc.king way ever!
I’m a Christian man and I hate to go see Ladies for my sexual urges but I pray and hope God sees the sh!tshow and understands the predicaments we’re in.
Just because I won’t trust another bitch until I die doesn’t make me less of a man with needs and wants.
Wants I can manage but needs…?Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!Odds are I’m the one who’d be required to do all that for her and for what? To wake up one day under a bridge and having to pay out the rest of my food money for the month to someone who’d brake my heart to pieces, got me arrested and convicted to pay up until my last breath?
(Great thread). Your comment may seem like an exaggeration to the uneducated but it reminded me of a red-pill shot-across-the-bow back in my blue pill and newly married days:
There was an Eastern European woman in her late 20’s, divorced with 2 kids, who worked in our dept. She was a pretty girl with long legs and liked to show them off with short dresses. Often she would sit on my and other guy’s desks and flaunt them.
Anyway, during lunch one day she was complaining about not getting child support payment and that she had reported him. However, one of the people knew her ex-husband and said, “But didn’t he lose his job and now he is living in his car?”
She just shrugged and said, “Yeah, but I don’t care.”
And neither does the court system.
"You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."… but as soon as there is a new man, she will start doing things she never did before.
A classic sign that Chad is in while you are out.
Going through my divorce, I read the following somewhere (I’m paraphrasing). If you want something you have to give it. It doesn’t guarantee you’ll get it back, but if you don’t give it you won’t get it. You want attention? Then give someone your attention. If you want love you have to give love. If you want respect, you have to respect the person you’re looking for respect from. If you give it and don’t get it, then move on, that person doesn’t care about you.
When I read that it felt like 100 pounds of weight had been lifted off my shoulders. Because it was at that moment I realized that my ex quit on me years before I quit on her. I gave all those things and didn’t get them back for years.
While it sounds nice on a surface level, I don’t think this is very good advice. More accurately, the advice isn’t complete enough. Yes, you need to give, but what you give matters immensely. You can’t assume that what matters to you also matters to her. While getting attention and respect tells you that your loved, it may not matter that much to her. She may very well feel loved with you just telling her you love her and buying gifts. And that might mean nothing to you. From an objective point of view, I don’t know that it’s always a case of one person stopped trying, but that the two people didn’t realize that the efforts they made were a complete waste of time or making things worse.
The other important point is, don’t do anything you don’t want to do. It just builds resentment. She might want you to hold her hand in public, but if you’re hating it the while time, you’re just going to blame her for making you do it (even though you agreed to). And it won’t make her feel special because she’ll know it’s all forced anyway. Instead, perhaps you feel comfortable giving her frequent hugs in public, and this is just as good in her eyes. Do that instead. You really can take this even further. Don’t do anything together unless you both want to do it.
I think the second point is way more important that the first actually. If you’re always doing things you want to do, there’s no loss at all if it doesn’t matter to her. Her liking it is just gravy at that point.
A further extension to that second rule, which I think is rather problematic, is to never do anything your spouse doesn’t want you to do. On one extreme, this is rather obvious. If she wants to go to the club and flirt with guys, it’s quite alright for him to say no, I don’t want that. That clearly hurts him and should be avoided. On the other end, if he wants to go fishing every now and then, she needs to recognize that it makes him happy without causing any real harm to her. Be happy that he’s happy. And if doing whatever it is more important than the relationship, well, you know what to do.
In my mind, doing what you want to do is of utmost importance in a relationship. That means you don’t be fake and do what you think you’re supposed. It also doesn’t mean you never do anything for her, you just do things for her because you want to. It keeps her trying to because she knows you aren’t obligated, you’re doing what you want to do. It also makes it easy to end it when it’s time, because you’re still just doing what you want, you owe her no explanation.
But most people don’t think this way. It’s more of a fake it till you make it attitude, then when the mask it off, blame the other person for not loving the real you. Then take all that you can when you walk out the door. No thanks.
Ok. Then do it.
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