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I saw this video a few days ago, and I had to wonder if MGTOW United understand MGTOW, or if I am getting it wrong:
I wonder, for example, how one can keep MGTOW itself as “the last safe haven” for men, and keep other men from having any association at all with women or prevent women from saying positive things about MGTOW. And other things also. Am I missing something here? Maybe I am the one who has the issue, so I post and ask. I see a site like this can be a safe haven for men, but not MGTOW itself. Again, am I missing something?
My feeling on Angry MGTOW (MGTOW United) he is using MGTOW as something to hold his life together and feels threatened when it goes in directions he doesn’t like. I took going MGTOW as being able to go one’s own way, and if it works, then the rest isn’t as important.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
It’s a bizare thing to me when something like what we’re seeing with MGTOW happens, getting traction, certain frustrated people want to take control of it, take the reigns or insist on their way.
Only this isn’t Men Going That Guy’s Way, it’s ME going my merry way and loving evey day of it.Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!This is like arguing over air. Some air stinks and other is fresh and sweet. Some like air that smells of jet fuel ☺ some like bbq and others beer.
The point is … it’s all air and it’s doing its job. That’s it’s beauty.
Don’t like the way it smells? There is a load of other air out there …. or … make your own. Put your own ingredients in and produce air you like.
As long as that air is going its own way. That way there is no target or argument.
IT’S A FKING IDEA
That’s it … pure and simple.
STOP BITCHING, FIND YOUR WAY AND WALK THAT PATH.
FOR FKS SAKE ….. IT’S REALLY THAT SIMPLE.
You don’t like something? Walk away or ignore.
Anonymous1I will play devil’s advocate here and defend this guy for once.
I think you are partially right: he seems to be using mgtow label to hold his life together. I actually posted a few messages in one of his videos advising him not to do that since it was, apparently, affecting his health.
With that said, he actually has some valid points regarding the Mgtow community on youtube though.
The matter of the fact is, man is a social creature. And the mgtow label was, for a while, a label to men that think alike to get together. Hell, even men that think differently, but have the common goal of not bending over the gynocracy could exchange ideas uner the mgtow label. What is happening right now on youtube, at least from my point of view, is that a lot of manginas and white knights are claiming be mgtow and “defending the poor wymin”. All a woman has to do in order to get this special treatment is to claim that there are “moderate mgtow” and “extremists mgtow”, extremists being anyone that dare to be “mean” to women. For crying out loud, one even posted ROOSH V as a MODERATE MGTOW. So now I see myself on this weird position, where I am defending Mgtow United, a guy that couldn’t have more opposite ideas than I do. Because in the end, despite all the trash that he said, he is one of the few that is being consistent in one thing: NO WOMEN ON MGTOW. His problem, for what I understood, is not women talking about mgtow, but this new trend of women trying to DEFINE MGTOW and men ACTUALLY BACKING THIS S~~~ UP.
Regarding this, I am starting to think it will not matter. Mgtow is a phenomena, not a movement. Even if those assholes manage to co-opt the LABEL on youtube, this will only push true mgtows to other sites. There will always be forums, like this, where men can exchange ideas without the “policing” of women or their f~~~ing lackeys (thanks once again @keymaster).
So I say: BRING IT. Let those white knights and manginas do their f~~~ing videos telling people that “mgtow have to be nice to women”. In the end of the day, each MAN is responsible for THEIR OWN LIFE. Including following or IGNORING such moronic advices.
That is my take anyway.
Cheers.
Anonymous42He’s only reacting to all the feminist persuasions that inundate this community, his pessimism is well founded, but he shouldn’t be attacking his brothers, instead he should keep on stressing HIS point of view!
Like I’ve said before , “We’re MGTOW first, assholes second! It sounds like he’s mixing his asshole with his MGTOW. But I don’t fault him, he’s in the 10% hardcore like me. Women have no legitimate place here or in real life, they’ve lost their identity, are utterly intolerable, and are foreign to my well being.
Women ruin men! Women ruin MGTOW! it’s that simple!
I hold that if you make the MGTOW label, and what happens around the “MGTOWosphere” as the thing that holds your life together, rather than your own life, there are risks of burning out severely from it. Not only do you have your own way that has issues, but you have a bunch of other ways of other men, you are concerned about, and you end up policing dozens of other ways to make sure they line up with a way that makes yourself feel safer about it.
For myself, I don’t care where an idea comes from. If the idea is useful, I use it. Of course, the way I approach MGTOW, is to not see women as women, but as a human being independent of their gender/sex. I don’t consider their sex to be relevant to what they contribute. But, that is my approach. The byproduct of that though is that I can respect a woman as an individual, but strip any sort of power play by feminists to elevate those who claim to have a female identity just because of that identity. I guess that is why I am not concerned about “women infiltrating MGTOW” as maybe Angry MGTOW happened to feel. MGTOW will do whatever it will do. I just need to get on with my life. I do believe in trying to pay proper respect and be accurate with the MGTOW label though.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
Anonymous42This is like arguing over air. Some air stinks and other is fresh and sweet. Some like air that smells of jet fuel ☺ some like bbq and others beer. The point is … it’s all air and it’s doing its job. That’s it’s beauty. Don’t like the way it smells? There is a load of other air out there …. or … make your own. Put your own ingredients in and produce air you like. As long as that air is going its own way. That way there is no target or argument. IT’S A FKING IDEA That’s it … pure and simple. STOP BITCHING, FIND YOUR WAY AND WALK THAT PATH. FOR FKS SAKE ….. IT’S REALLY THAT SIMPLE. You don’t like something? Walk away or ignore.
Hey live again, are you sure we’re not brothers??? perhaps from the same neighborhood where some sperm jacking was done? You’re tuned into my algorithm like a perfectly tuned 12 string guitar!
It’s really, really, really, really important…. that these people don’t get caught up in the 5 letters acronym. It stands for something, yes, but strike it from your mind. He’s allowing it to drive himself crazy and over thinking it.
Really LISTEN to when he’s saying.
It’s “men going their own way”, but he’s got a problem with DIVISION??Major problem right there.
The very groups / factions / splinters / individuals are all technically GOING THEIR OWN WAY. You can’t tell them NOT to. That’s against the core principal. What they should not be doing is looking for people to join them. If you’re not going to associate, don’t expect people to join your group. I would be like Sandman saying “I’m a lone wolf and collaborate with no one”….. and then wanting 50,000 subscribers, or having a problem when they UN-subscribe.
In two minutes he (angrymgtow) said “MGTOW” like, 50 times.
Just the title of this thread has MGTOW in it 3 times! (that’s not a problem, I’m just illustrating a point)When Bar Bar created “The post feminism man” video, he didn’t say “MGTOW” even ONCE.
Because it doesn’t even need to be spoken.He brings a red pill perspective on thoughts about something that inspired him to think about it….. and THAT”S what MGTOW is about. Just bring your genius to the table, share it with others, and go your own way . MOST of BarBars greatest hits (for example) don’t even talk about “MGTOW”. He’s just talking. He turns on a Mic and discusses NAWALT. Or Briffault’s Law. Or Why Alpha males and PUAs are bulls~~~. End of discussion.
But once you start saying “hey is that MGTOW?? Can he be MGTOW?? Am I a MGTOW?? Do you think MGTOW should? I think MGTOW should all….” you can see where the problems arise. When you start thinking about “what is MGTOW” , it can get silly how some guys just won’t shut up about it. They don’t even talk about anything VALUABLE like a valuable subject that helps someone… or a simple story about an interaction in real life. It’s just Paula Shelamb and her “MGTOW VS PIGTOW” bulls~~~. It’s Alexandra Blue’s stupid Documentary on “MGTOW”. It’s Sandman’s “what is MGTOW”… next to Terrence Popps “what is MGTOW”.
We’re a site for red-pill men – first and foremost. Christ, even Roosh would be welcome here. Our feature vids and articles discuss problems (and solutions) that exist in the societal matrix. Specific topics. Taking a thought (or idea) and exhausting it…. until another red pill man adds to it some more. Rejection. Paternity Fraud. Marriage. Divorce. Success. Briffault’s Law. NAWALT. Failure. Relationship bulls~~~. Dating disasters. How to shut a woman up. We even have a recent thread on breaking BREAD.
Once you start on the “is that MGTOW?” stuff…. it all gets lost and the focus is in the wrong place.
There is no substance to it. It’s just technicalities and definitions.The best stuff is when a guy makes a video (or writes something)… and doesn’t even MENTION “MGTOW”. He talks about an experience, or a revelation(!) he wants to share, or a bad date he was on – and bonus if he makes it funny. Or … when he just needs someone to listen to him for a change.
The response videos are meaningless fluff and there are WAY to many of them.
And then you wrote:
I hold that if you make the MGTOW label, and what happens around the “MGTOWosphere” as the thing that holds your life together, rather than your own life, there are risks of burning out severely from it. Not only do you have your own way that has issues, but you have a bunch of other ways of other men, you are concerned about, and you end up policing dozens of other ways to make sure they line up with a way that makes yourself feel safer about it.
Bingo.
This is like arguing over air.
Bingo. Again.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Mgtow is a phenomena, not a movement.
but he shouldn’t be attacking his brothers, instead he should keep on stressing HIS point of view!
This is like arguing over air.
It’s really, really, really, really important…. that these people don’t get caught up in the 5 letters acronym. It stands for something, yes, but strike it from your mind. He’s allowing it to drive himself crazy and over thinking it.
You guys said it for me. I agree. “MGTOW” is just our name for what it really is, and what it really is can only be realized in the mind of he who decides what his own way might be and how he is to go along his own way.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
This is like arguing over air. Some air stinks and other is fresh and sweet. Some like air that smells of jet fuel ☺ some like bbq and others beer. The point is … it’s all air and it’s doing its job. That’s it’s beauty. Don’t like the way it smells? There is a load of other air out there …. or … make your own. Put your own ingredients in and produce air you like. As long as that air is going its own way. That way there is no target or argument. IT’S A FKING IDEA That’s it … pure and simple. STOP BITCHING, FIND YOUR WAY AND WALK THAT PATH. FOR FKS SAKE ….. IT’S REALLY THAT SIMPLE. You don’t like something? Walk away or ignore.
Hey live again, are you sure we’re not brothers??? perhaps from the same neighborhood where some sperm jacking was done? You’re tuned into my algorithm like a perfectly tuned 12 string guitar!
Hahaha what you don’t realise Tower … if you done a dna test … you would find that you are the love child of RoyDal and myself ?
I thought you knew …. told RD to tell you that story while he tucked you to bed ?
he is one of the few that is being consistent in one thing: NO WOMEN ON MGTOW.
Indeed, for this he has my respect.He is one of the few to stand up to the manginas opening the door wide open.
Anonymous1Another thing I think is interesting on his case is this:
This guy clearly has issues and he is using the Mgtow label to try to deal with those issues. I am not going to pretend I am on a moral high ground here because I did this as well on the past (and I catch myself giving more credit to the label than it deserves from time to time, but I digress), but thankfully, I moved away from it. Mgtow United doesn’t seem to have to, and this clearly is affecting his LIFE.
Instead of showing compassion, or caring for the man (or his attitude), people are more worried about the NAME MGTOW and/or on using his pain to PROMOTE THEMSELVES. I am not saying he is beyond criticism, or that people should go out of their way to help him (the only person that can help him at this point is himself) but is amusing to me that the same people that claim to be for man’s rights are the first ones to ignore a man’s struggle! All they care about is on how “bad it will look for MGTOW”, or “how WOMEN will think we are all like this” and so on and so forth.
If anything, this guy showed me what can happen if you take what others do with their lives too seriously, and I am not referring to the “opinion backlash”. He already stated that “hate” (for feminists, according to him) is giving him health problems. And “making videos about mgtow, prevented him from doing other stuff”. This, in my opinion, is of much GREATER concern then “comparing women to c~~~roaches” (one of the favorite complains of the community on youtube about him). This just shows me the level of compassion the “community”, women and men, have for someone that is clearly suffering: none. Women, the ones that claim “not being like that, actually REJOICE when some MRA makes a video making fun of this guy. This, to me, is like watching someone being on fire and criticizing him for being too loud, for wearing a “not proper shirt”, or laughing at him.
I may disagree with him, and may disagree with his attitudes, but I do UNDERSTAND where he is coming from and wish he eventually finds peace. Unlike the NAWALTs that are but too happy to see this guy’s demise.
Just a rant about this whole thing.
Cheers.
What I saw with Angry/United is a lost man who is trying to cope. The sheer amount of videos had me concerned about the lost state, and acted as a mirror about myself also. With that, I see it too easy to end up making the road of MGTOW the destination itself, and I am bothered with myself doing this also. Those who don’t fit the social norms, who don’t go the marriage route, and end up not with women, will get little in the way of support by society. Such men are considered to be disposable. And with this will come the leaning of MGTOW for meaning, and then getting immensely disappointed and disillusioned when it doesn’t act as the support structure you would want it to be. Such individuals then circle the wagons and want MGTOW to meet standards they have, to provide them the structure they are missing. What I see, is that it just isn’t possible if men go their own way to have MGTOW be a safe space longed for by men who need it.
To compound this, all the networking and communication is done over the Internet, which immensely depersonalizes things. People don’t interact with people here, just concepts, images, and thoughts, not human beings. It is easy to end up being detached from humanity and be on the Internet, and not connect. One can also run filters with the Internet to screen out others they may disagree with. And as you see with the videogames, this technology makes one not really see people as humans, but concepts or enemies and so on, and the end result is a ton of stuff like Doxxing happening and more.
Well, I wish MGTOW would network better and offer support. It is just way hard to do so.
By the way, in regards to dehumanizing, I speak of stuff like Vegan Gains got doing (show a knife and say you would kill someone):
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
Anonymous1Those who don’t fit the social norms, who don’t go the marriage route, and end up not with women, will get little in the way of support by society. Such men are considered to be disposable
All men are considerate disposable by society. Not only single men. Married men are considerate tools and the rest of us not even that. However, unlike the married men, we have our freedom.
And with this will come the leaning of MGTOW for meaning, and then getting immensely disappointed and disillusioned when it doesn’t act as the support structure you would want it to be
That has a lot more to do with the person’s personal history and mental resilience. Mgtow is a philosophy and a phenomena. It has nothing to do with a “platform” (MRA are there for that).
What I see, is that it just isn’t possible if men go their own way to have MGTOW be a safe space longed for by men who need it.
And that was never the point. I think there is this misconception about “safe space” and “MALE SPACE”. There is NO safe space other than, maybe, your private home/life. This idea that EVERRYWHERE has to be a safe space is something that SJW are trying to push.
To compound this, all the networking and communication is done over the Internet, which immensely depersonalizes things.
Well, sometimes all we need is exchange messages. At some points, I felt more connection with people posting messages here than with the people I know personally. And that happens because here we are allowed to speak our minds freely. I thing “depersonalization” comes more from people’s ATTITTUDES and ACTION than TECHNOLOGY.
And as you see with the videogames, this technology makes one not really see people as humans, but concepts or enemies and so on,
Ok, let me stop you there. There is NO EVIDENCE linking VIDEOGAMES with violence or dehumanization of people for that matter. Please don’t start with this bulls~~~. Unless you have some evidence, as far as I know, the (unbiased) studies made so far couldn’t prove what you are suggesting. In fact, people doing the DOXXING and all this other stuff are the SJW, which ironically enough DON’T PLAY VIDEOGAMES, just pose as they do…
As for the Vegan Gains video, he is a self-declared sociopath, so I am not at all surprised that he said that. But again, it has nothing to do with GAMES, and to be honest I am tired of this attempt of linking video games to violence (or to the society’s faults) in order to censor it.
Anonymous5He does make a good point about MGTOW vs Black MGTOW. It is stupid. MGTOW is for everyone of all races yet “Black MGTOW” wants to purposely be racist and only have blacks allowed. It is a huge shame that some men hate white people so much. I hope they can grow up someday and realize how stupid it is to exclude white people simply because of the color of their skin. We are all men. It doesn’t matter where we come from.
I used to be subscribed to him. He sounds as a sincere and honest guy. But he just states the obvious in an angry way. So I unsubscribed.
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