Dodged a Bullet

[BeardedOneParticipant 57]

So, September 22, 2014 I married my girlfriend of almost 5 years. We have a 3 year old daughter together & it seemed like the right thing to do. I did one thing right & got a prenup made up, witnessed, & reviewed by each of our lawyers. Got her the bulls~~~ wedding ring. A month later she cheats on me with one of her ex boyfriends — who just got out of prison a few months prior. I’m now in the process of getting our marriage annulled haha. At first I was pretty distraught, but I realized it was actually a blessing.

The best part is that I’m having a house built & I was JUST ABOUT to put her on the title even though I’d be the only one responsible for actually paying the mortgage since she had no credit to get onto it (stupid nice guy). I jokingly told her if she would have just strategically timed her cheating she could have had half the house & I’d be stuck paying for it. She’s still convinced that she should own half because “she’s taken care of our daughter” even though I have taken care of both of them financially & physically. She’s probably worked a little over a year of our entire relationship, which she insinuates is somehow my fault even though we have family including my parent’s who would like to watch our daughter any day. What’s pretty messed up & stupid of me is that this is the only girl I’ve *ever* been with lmao (I’m 22) — AND I’m actually still with her! Severe case of “oneitis”. She goes from telling me she’s falling out of love with me, cheating on me, to wanting to keep our relationship going even though we’re getting divorced. Her prisoner bf didn’t have anything financially. I think that’s what it really comes down to. I honestly don’t think she’s even aware that this is the legitimate reason she wants to stay with me.

She’s straight out told me she resents me. I can’t completely blame her for those feelings. I own & rent out 2 other houses, have a decent job, & am having a 3rd house built. She works for barely over minimum wage & owns a crappy 2004 dodge neon. She could easily do better if she went to school. I had to get a couple licenses to make more money (Water Treatment). I’m considering giving us another shot, but I feel kind of bat s~~~ crazy for even wanting to. At least there’s a lot less risk of getting robbed since we won’t be married.

Happy Thanksgiving, y’all.

[AposematicParticipant 2671]

Run Forest Run. Don’t look back. UNLESS you enjoy putting the quarters in the C~~~ CAROUSEL to help you slore keep riding. I am still counselling a sick guy that remarried his Ex – and thus is completely f~~~ed financially (as she took half the assets in both divorces!).

Afinogyny.. from the Greek Afino {to abandon/ to set down/ to leave /to allow/ to let } + Gyny {Women} MGHOW’s philosophy to not engage women without “hating them”. Narcorca =Narcissistic Orca typically spouting to a bathroom mirror taking an arms length selfie ; Wallinate describes post wall females whose SMV is terminally negligible New Years resolution "To not make women happy" . Instadestitue: yet another Neologism for Men that cohabit with women that decide to pull the handle of intervention orders.

[TheNinjaUWannaH8Participant 386]

OMG!  Dude… Usain Bolt on her Ass As fast as you possibly Can!

Please get your Lawyers to get you 100% Custody of your daughter with no visitation since she is seeing a convict.

[Deus Ex MachinaParticipant 1068]

Holy s~~~ bro,

You dodged a heat seeking missile with ground penetrating explosion power!. And take my advice, DO NOT TAKE HER BACK!. Let it go, and leave her be. One month of marriage and she cheats on a guy straight out of Prison?… Good to know you signed a pre-nup, and  got out of it fairly good.

 

What’s always baffled me is that damn marriage contract, I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, it really f~~~s up a female’s mental state once the pen is put to the paper for their signature. I swear, there must be some chemical reaction in the brain that sets off their bat-s~~~ crazy side of they Brain.

 

My Uncle was with His girlfriend for over 19 years and on their 20th year he surprised her with a fat rock and proposed to her, within 2 years?, she cheated on him with over 4 different Men and got pregnant from some Ponzi Scheme artist the FBI was looking for.

 

I got one more for you, couple years ago I read an article online about a Law school professor, who dated a Woman for well over 15 years before they got married, they finally got married had children, and by the time the marriage hit it’s 3rd year?, she wanted out of the marriage, because she had become a Lesbian, and was having an affair with her Intern who was 11 years younger then Her. It’s seriously one of those W…T…F… moments. I can go on and on about people who were together, and got married and everything went to s~~~…It’s one of the great mysteries of the Universe like Loch Ness or Sasquatch.

 

I wish you the best in the future, and wow that’s a pretty amazing story.

"If You have the Tooth of a Whale, You must have the Whale's Jaw to hold it". (i.e. One Must have the right qualifications for leadership) -Hawaiian Proverb

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Gents, a great friend of +20 years married in 2010 and invited me to the wedding. I didn’t fly and told him he was an idiot. 4 months(!) later she jumps on a motorcycle riding thug dick.

@cellsworth… you just brought new meaning to the word “Thanksgiving”.

Happy Thanksgiving!

Beautifully played.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Mann FugaSpectator 77]

Let that be a lesson that you hopefully will never forget.  I hope you realize that you’re wearing a HUGE target on your back.  You are every woman’s dream – a man with money.  Once they figure out that you have money, women are going to tell you whatever you want to hear to get you locked down.

 

I’ve come very close to being destroyed by a woman as well and I will never again give any power to a woman over my life.  By getting married – you give all of your power over to women and take away the biggest power play you have – the ability to just walk away.  You got very, very lucky.  There are lots of ways to destroy a guy even with a prenup and to have a prenup voided.  You are lucky she didn’t figure that out beforehand.

 

She probably never really cared about you and simply saw you as a means to finance her relationship with the other guy.  How?  By soaking you in the divorce.  Many a naive fool has been taken by a crafty woman in this manner.  My X tried her best to transfer as much of my wealth as she could to her new relationship with her affair partner as well.  Like your soon to be X, she failed.

 

If her thug boyfriend is out of prison, you need to have your will and life insurance set right asap.  Seek professional help if you’re considering going back to this woman.  You are playing a deadly game with your life and future if you go back.  She could always have prison guy have you whacked.  You deserve better than to be treated like a piece of s~~~.

[BeardedOneParticipant 57]

Thanks for the support & advice, guys. I think my next move is an obvious one.

[MountainMike68Participant 137]

Sorry for your troubles.  If I were in your position I would be interested in a paternity/STD test.  Mostly for peace of mind.

What value does a woman offer a man that he cannot get cheaper and easier on his own?

[KeymasterKeymaster]

MannFuga said

I will never again give any power to a woman over my life.

My exact words some time ago – after a particular girl. Thankfully it didn’t have to come to an expensive and messy divorce (or a family ripped apart) on the whims of a female’s emotional fartstorm. I don’t even know the rage I would be capable of if I had to send that slag a monthly check. And I often bathe in the glow of knowing she didn’t win….. her current life is a schadenfreude I can’t even put into words.

If cellsworth is +1 to the men who didn’t go down in flames…. then it’s a great f~~~ing day today.

About 3 billion more to go.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Mann FugaSpectator 77]

Here’s a worthy read you’ll never forget.  I stumbled upon it several days ago.  It’s the one post every man and boy should be taught from early childhood.  Why?  It’s the illusions, false beliefs and enchantments that lead men to total life destruction.  If men could be taught the truth from the beginning, there wouldn’t be so much male suffering in this world.  It’s a shame the truth doesn’t get out more often.  How many men’s lives could be saved if the truth, instead of lies, were told?

 

F Marriage

 

http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2m13i2/f~~~_marriage/

I’m going to be blunt in saying that any man who gets married whether he thinks the woman is of quality or not is a f~~~ing fool. Eg: George Clooney. Just because she was your unicorn princess when you married doesn’t mean she won’t be a scathing bitch 5,10 or even 15 years down the line. Marriage is a life long investment and you don’t have a crystal ball. Women are great at the whole permanent personality switch thing. The branch swinging hypergamy upgrade thing. And the whole “switch sides because it suits me to do so thing.” They also need constant maintenance. If they’re not haaaaaaaaaaaaaapppy then you’re a s~~~ man and they’re off. F~~~ the fact you have to work hard, concentrate on yourself, look after your kids and do other s~~~. No. A woman’s responsibilities are domestic/kids and usually any part time job she has. You have kids, full time job AND THEN HER. She is probably the most mentally draining thing out of all of those things.

Women lean towards neuroticism (all bitches are crazy, some just less so than others) and thus they are incredibly temperamental. The older they get the more pronounced any latent psycho-neurotic tendency will become. Depression (post natal or otherwise), schizophrenia and all that dysfunctional bad s~~~ which basically makes a woman a no-go as a hard option increases as she ages. Think I sound crazy? Google mental illness, it’s more prevalent in women, specifically, OLDER WOMEN. They have a natural predisposition to general bats~~~tery. Definitely worth digging deep into a prospective woman’s family dirt to see what her mother, grandmother, sisters and all the rest are like. If there’s any, even A SNIFF of mental illness, nope the f~~~ out of there. You don’t want those genes in your kids, either. It’s your responsibility as a man to check for all this s~~~. If you bring a little sadistic boy or girl into the world because your wife’s X chromosomes contain dysfunctional DNA, that’s on you.

Some women actually stabilise around/after menopause which is a blessing in disguise, I guess. But most women are long past f~~~able once they reach that stage and any kids you had would be grown up so you would have survived the bulk part of your marriage. That’s the beginning of the home stretch of your marriage, entering the early twilight years, not the hard part of having a hot young woman bear your kids and managing her swinging emotions, wants, needs, whining, hypergamy and negative social influences that hijack her personality via the hegemony of the female groupthink mentality and turn her into a c~~~ (EG: slutty friends, media, a bitter venomous mother-in-law etc.)

I rather risk money on the stock market than risk my family/heart/money on a legal contract with a woman who has the power to rape everything. We live in a culture where a woman’s feels have more legal reach than justice, common sense and logic. I see guys hamster a lot “why marriage is necessary” it isn’t. You just want it because you were inculcated to desire it. In light of that you have a very weak logical basis for “why marriage is good.” Kids need two parents, not a marriage contract. F~~~ marriage. Tell the bitch if she wants a man as high SMV as yourself that she accepts your terms or you will nope the f~~~ out. Call her bluff, if she calls yours, follow through. If she begs for you back, excellent. If not? You’ve just avoided playing a game of Russian roulette where your net worth, emotions and family are ripped away from you by a woman who has fallen out of love, gone crazy or just lost her s~~~ and wants to make you pay. Because all her problems are your fault. Even if they’re not.

I’ve had this conversation with guys before. Some guys are dumb enough to think getting rich and just paying her off is worth it for a 5-10 year marriage and then f~~~ing up your kids when they become teenagers/pre-teens with a divorce. I think they’re f~~~ing chumps. That’s just pure hopeless romanticism. It’s a poor as s~~~ strategy whichever way you cut it. Most women are not worth what they get in a divorce. They get way in excess of what can be deemed reasonable, especially if you are successful. If you don’t have more power/control than her, your marriage will inevitably fail. It’s not a matter of IF, but a matter of when. Exceptions are dark triad men who have learnt to manage their woman’s emotions and play her like a fiddle. Doesn’t sound healthy I know but at least the whole f~~~ing thing actually lasts. Women believe that s~~~ to be “true love” but when you word it consciously like this it’s “creepy as f~~~.” Good luck with marriage, it’s Russian roulette except 5 out of the 6 chambers have a bullet inside. Here’s hoping you hit that 1/6.

Marriage takes your one card away that gives you any measure of power over a woman. Your ability to walk away. You need to be able to withdraw your commitment at any time and be able to imply that you can actionably do that via dread game without a massive nuke going off. Even your ability to affect dread is weakened once you’re married. A woman is inclined to think “he won’t leave, he can’t afford to leave” and so she carries on acting like a c~~~ ruining everything you’ve built “BECAUSE OF HOW I FEEL!” You don’t need to be chaining up your nutsack like that, don’t chain your fate to a woman’s emotional whims. If I was emotional, I’d probably cringe every time I hear a guy say “you need marriage to raise kids.” That’s dumb as f~~~. The divorce will f~~~ them up, I’ve seen it happen again and again. In fact I knew a dude whose parents divorcing red pilled the s~~~ out of him and changed his whole view of women when he saw how his own mother was. A really rough way to become red pilled, let me tell you.

[BeardedOneParticipant 57]

I actually did get an std test (negative — phheww…), but a paternity test was never done. Honestly, it never needed to be. My family kind of has a certain look or something — my daughter has the look. Probably sounds shaky, but I know 100%. My ex didn’t mess around until AFTER we got married! Hahaha, weirdest s~~~, but I’ve actually witnessed & heard similar stories prior. Kind of broke my heart, but I’m completely aware that this was a good thing.

As Mann Fuga said, prenups can be voided. I took every measure I could to prevent that, but I’m sure there was still a way(s) for the state to force me into paying her one day. According to my lawyer, temporary alimony is pretty much guaranteed just about no matter what unless your wife has similar income.

That was a really good read, too.

I rather risk money on the stock market than risk my family/heart/money on a legal contract with a woman who has the power to rape everything.

Good s~~~.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Get out there and have some fun with some other women and you’ll get over this. As has been stated already in this thread, you have what women want so it’s an almost certainty that you’ll be able to attract the attention of new women. The trick is to date them on your own terms, keep them around so long as they are fun and uplifting and then let them go when they start trying to collect from you. Spend your time, energy and money on yourself and your child and don’t let a woman insinuate herself into your life.

For the record, there are men who will tell you that women are toys to be played with and discarded and other men who say they are a cancer that should be avoided at all costs. I disbelieve both of these notions. Women should be treated like job applicants. They do have something to offer, they just choose to only offer their hard work, dedication and spirit up until the point where they get the job, then they become lazy and entitled and look for ways to take advantage without having to earn their keep.

You bring a woman on for a “trial period” with a review at the end (dating you with the hopes of marriage) and so long as she’s still working hard to earn the title, you keep her around. When she gets tired of putting in the hours and starts making demands, you’ll know the trial period is over and you’re seeing her true self, then you can let her go without doubt or regret.

The only woman worth keeping is the one who never quits putting in the effort… she’s the woman who you never need to marry because she is truly a worthy partner and isn’t looking for you to give her a title and a stake in the operation, she’s created her own. The rest you just walk away from, secure in the knowlege that you gave of yourself freely, enjoyed her while you could and got out before she turned on you.

 

[KeymasterKeymaster]

for the record, there are men who will tell you that women are toys to be played with and discarded and other men who say they are a cancer that should be avoided at all costs. I disbelieve both of these notions.

Second that. If not careful, avoiding at all costs is not actually “blocking others out”… it’s more like locking yourself in. I quite enjoy interacting with women and playing with them… dropping the occaisonal nuke and destroying a hamster is SO satisfying sometimes.

In fact, just yesterday I was in my favorite lunch spot and the waitress was taking my order when a total hottie (from a table outside) interrupted across the room(!) and called out “Can we place an order?” so I called out ing the same volume….

“AS SOON AS I’M DONE WITH MY ORDER I WILL SEND HER RIGHT OVER!!!!!!!!!!”

She was stunned and realized she was being a c~~~… and about to snap back…..

“AS SOON AS I’M DONE HERE!!!”

Bitch retreated like a turles’ head. And the waitress LOVED it.
“thank you so much for saying something.”

“She asked for it. Too used to getting her own way.”

I got a free coffee out of that. So sometimes it even pays.

But if girl ever wants something, she will be asked: “What’s in it for me”.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[AFTParticipant 2726]

“What’s in it for me”.

Yes KeyMaster, that is the NUMBER ONE rule, women know it, and have actually plainly told us outright, what’s in it for them?  They went further by demanding their privileges upfront, whilst leading men on with Disney promises of happiness ever after.  (What they forget to mention is it’s their happiness that is for ever after in the divorce)  That’s what this whole “cultural problem” is all about, men finally waking up to a bad deal, finally questioning our own position, and dropping out until we can get a better deal for ourselves.  Now I use this rule for myself, and I can’t believe how dependent I’ve become on it for guidance in my life.  Not just with women, but work, socializing, every aspect of decision making.

I am so glad to be looking after my best interests, being free to pursue whatever I decide is the best for me, and seeing women’s games with open eyes, the more I meet new women, the more amused I become, they really are one big joke perpetrated on mankind.

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

[Tbowden1Participant 195]

@Mann Fuga

Thank you for sharing that article! I absolutely love this quote

Good luck with marriage, it’s Russian roulette except 5 out of the 6 chambers have a bullet inside. Here’s hoping you hit that 1/6

[BeardedOneParticipant 57]

If you gentlemen would kindly move your attention to the “relations~~~s” section, I’m making a thread about the current dilemma I face. I could use some more thoughtful advice.

[SoldanoParticipant 108]

The ‘fling with a thug’ thing never ceases to amaze me.
I feel for you, this is a horrible story.

Seee you on your other thread.

[vurrichParticipant 25]

The old saying goes..”One a cheater, always a cheater”

I  have witnessed this with my ex.

They cheat once they will cheat again when given a chance..

Bail!

 

They aren’t worth it.

 

 

 

 

[vurrichParticipant 25]

shoulda been ”Once a cheater, always a cheater”

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