Doctors not performing vasectomies on young men?

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  • #147481
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    Hammerdown
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    Like a lot of MGTOW, I don’t want kids. Partly because I don’t enjoy the company of children and have no desire to have any of my own, but mostly so I can’t be run through the ringer for 18 years. Thing is, I just turned 25. I’ve heard a lot of doctors won’t actually perform a vasectomy on a childless unmarried man this young. I’m not sure what age they consider “old enough”, but I recall the number 30-35 being tossed around a lot.

    This further complicated by the fact that I’m military. Nearest I can figure out, the base hospital doesn’t perform them and sends you out to a specialist. If I thought I’d have trouble convincing a regular doctor, convincing a military one will be harder, especially when chain of command gets involved since it would put me out of commission for a few days and then light duty for a while after that.

    I think this is absolute bulls~~~. I get refusing it to someone on a spur of the moment thing, like a pastor refusing to marry two 18 year olds that met a few months ago, but if someone gives you a bunch of good reasons why they don’t want kids and you still won’t do it? That’s just retarded.

    I was wondering what your guys’ take is. Has anyone been in this situation before? Were you able to convince the doc or were you turned away?

    #147495
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    I’ve never heard of doctors doing that, but you never know, probably some feminist making waves in s~~~ that’s none of her f~~~ing business always talking about how abortion is “her body, her choice” but when it comes to men, it’s not our choice. Of course, this can all be mitigated by condoms or just watching porn so yeah.

    Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

    #147496
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    Faust For Science
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    The doctors don’t want to risk a lawsuit, if you change you mind after the fact.

    (And I realize the irony of the way I stated that.)

    #147498
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    Won'tGetFooledAgain
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    When I was married I went to the Dr’s to enquire about a Vasectomy when I was 37 with two children. The Dr at the time said I was pretty young to have it done and what if I wanted to have children at a later date.

    I never went through with it in the end, but I would imagine the chances of them letting you get it done under 30 if you are single are pretty remote.

    For women, everything eventually boils down to Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.

    #147503
    Cipher Highwind
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    I did not have one because I would rather forego the company of females than spend $700 and have my nether regions hurt for a few days. The present penalty would not have been commiserate with the future benefit of shooting blanks; I decided it would be wiser to shoot live ammunition in to the bushes instead.

    At the time, I was on Medicaid, so I was under the impression it would be free, and the consultation was in fact free. However, the urologist wanted a psychological evaluation done in order to shield himself from liability; my age, marital status, and childlessness were not an issue.

    My advice would be to shop around until a urologist agrees to do the procedure. If one cannot be found locally, why not go overseas where it is less expensive anyway?

    #147506
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    ILiveAgain
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    Keep looking you will find a doctor. You just need to be persistent.

    As a last resort tell them you’re a considerate rapist and don’t want the girls suffering a pregnancy ….. it would make you feel bad ?

    #147514
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    RoyDal
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    Planned Parenthood might do it for you, or find a way for you to get it done. https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/birth-control/vasectomy

    I am somewhat surprised that they do. I had it in my mind that they are mostly man haters.

    I have not had a vasectomy, and one of my GFs tried to get herself pregnant to entrap me into marriage. Come to think about it, she also gave me a STD. Fun times.

    Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

    #147579
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    Uchibenkei
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    your body, her choice.

    I bathe in the tears of single moms.

    #147580
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    The doctors don’t want to risk a lawsuit, if you change you mind after the fact.

    (And I realize the irony of the way I stated that.)

    vasectomies are easily reversible. that’s why it’s the procedure of choice over a woman getting her tubes tied. that and tube tying is a little more risky. or so i was lead to believe. maybe that was bulls~~~.

    I bathe in the tears of single moms.

    #147636
    Ogre
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    When I was younger and in the military, some of my contemporaries were being told that the doctors would not perform a vasectomy at the base hospital for a man less than 28. One of my married buddies was told that they’d do it, but his WIFE had to sign off on it. Yes, you read that right. You can raise your right hand to offer to go die in some foreign s~~~hole, but buttercup the wamalo has to verify that you can make a decision about “her” ability to have babies. He didn’t ever get her pregnant before they divorced and last I knew she was on guy three or four, and she had at least one kid by then, before she disappeared off my radar. Him, as a single guy went in and got the procedure done within six months of the divorce.

    Mine was done at a regional AF hospital after the third kid was born, at the ripe old age of 29.

    Bottom line: talk to your doctor every time you see one, and force them to make a note that vasectomy was discussed to document long term desire and commitment to getting the procedure. I was in line for the surgery when the primary doc broke his hand playing softball three years before the third kid came along, since the wait time extended I wound up PCSing three times before I made sure that they got in their and got it done.

    I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.

    #147666
    Faust For Science
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    vasectomies are easily reversible.

    I looked into this type of surgery. And it can be reversible. But, not always. Long story short, the tubes down there, that are tied, could be pinched, or damaged in some way, making it difficult to father children.

    #147676
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    Bee
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    I got one at age 32. This was easily the best decision of my life. I had good health insurance and it cost $25. I’d recommend it to any man who thinks they have enough children whether that number is 0 or 10. If you really think you might change your mind, freeze sperm.

    #147688
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    Beer
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    but mostly so I can’t be run through the ringer for 18 years.

    Its sad when it comes down to this. I tell people all the time I wouldn’t mind kids but I don’t want a wife and they don’t understand why I’d say that.

    I see numbers getting kicked around all the time that is cost 200k or whatever to raise a kid these days, and that isn’t what puts me off…its that when you add a divorce and child support into the mix its would probably end up costing me 2-3x + that amount per kid. I just can’t see myself ever giving some woman that type of financial power over me when she can screw me over on a whim and I’m powerless to stop it, especially when the alternative is to just retire early and get in 20+ years of nothing but leisure time, relaxation, hobbies, and traveling before any of my married peers can even start thinking about retiring. Maybe I’ll regret not having kids when I’m an old man, but in the mean time I won’t be regretting it in my 30s, 40s, 50s, 0r 60s as I never have to worry about a divorce or subsidizing some c~~~s lifestyle.

    #147695
    Mrpropmech
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    I talked with my doc about it a month or so ago. He seemed like he didn’t want me to do it and attempted to offer a counterpoint to my reasons, said he didn’t want me to “limit myself”, but in the end he told me that it’s my choice and he would refer me to a urologist for it if I want to go through with it.

    #147734
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    MattNYC
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    I’m a civilian, had mine done at 34. Never had kids; this was during my divorce. The urologist wasn’t happy about it, but i pushed him, and he did it. FYI – New York state has a mandatory 30 day waiting period, but aside from that, docs are *very* concerned about liability.

    “Patient X said he wanted permanent birth control, now 5 years later is suing because he said i didn’t tell him it was permanent.” WTF? Yeah, you’re dealing with that kind of s~~~.

    The childfree subreddit http://www.reddit.com/r/childfree (apologies, not sure if this link’s coming through properly or not) has a sidebar-database of doctors that’re more agreeable than others to performing sterilization procedures. I believe some of the links include PP clinics, but not limited to them.

    You may have to look outside of the military healthcare system to get it done, but the most expensive vasectomy i’ve heard of was actually mine @ $1,000 (including all consults, procedures, tests, follow-ups, etc., and this was all in NYC, and my company-sponsored insurance plan didn’t cover it at all; but don’t worry, they cover 100% sterilization for women wtf?!).

    No doubt, that was the best grand i ever spent in terms of insurance, peace of mind, and financial investment (pay $1,000 now, or $250k+ to raise the kid/child support later).

    Funny, the thing that drove me to it was the 3 women i was involved with prior all had some kind of “oops”. When i told them i’d rather move to Brazil than be a father & pay for anything, they suddenly “lost the pregnancies”.

    That’s a big part of what brought me here. MGTOW.

    #148255
    Jan Sobieski
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    I have seen that during March madness docs advertise on bill boards to have it done so you can rest and watch Bball.

    Not sure what the criteria are.

    Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

    #148284
    Zuberi Tau
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    Thought about getting a vasectomy but I’ll settle for voluntary celibacy.

    #148311
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    OldBill
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    In the mid-80s a shipmate of mine tried to get a vasectomy. His wife had just s~~~ out her third child and they didn’t want anymore. Kent banked some sperm “just in case” and tried to get the procedure done a few months prior to being discharged. The doctors on base turned him down flat. No waiting period, no note from Mommy, no “You’re not old enough”, just no.

    Over the years I’ve heard and read of many different roadblocks being placed in the way of men trying to get vasectomies, especially younger men. When you remember that children are among the primary way our masters keep us on the plantation, it’s not surprising that those same people extremely work hard to limit male reproductive choices.

    Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

    #148328
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    Anonymous
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    Personally I think a good 90% of the population should be sterilized.

    #148340
    Prefer Peace to Piece
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    I moon lighted on a military base for years. (Even worked on 3 generals) The “regular” docs on a military base are not trained in this type of surgery and you almost certainly would be referred to an outside urologist.

    Urologists, as you might imagine, are reluctant to perform this surgery on a younger male because of the possibility that you might change your mind later on. Also, remember that vasectomies can be associated with side effects including urinary incontinence and erectile dysfunction.

    If I had a younger son, I probably would suggest he consider spermicidal condoms until he were older.

    One of my doc friends had a vasectomy a few months ago by one of the best plumbers in the country and he is having erection problems post op. Please think twice. Thanks.

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