Do you really think that MGTOW will work? Two personal questions…

[ToadParticipant 271]

So much time passed since i discovered the MGTOW way of life, and until now i haven’t anyone who can discuss about it. Always have to tell everything to myself and make my own conclusions about what discovered…

Due now i found people who thinks like me, and making a good effort, because my english is still poor, i try to share my thoughts about a few questions…

Will really MGTOW change society?

I mean, since i have my mind clear i can see that the women have all the power in his hand and the men always have to fight to win something or to not lose what him deserved…

Like i already said in my introduction i dodged a bullet just because the last slut who play with me don’t lenghten the game a little more until trap me with childrens or a wedding contract to take from me more that a simple ego boost: I’m not win anything, i only had lucky of not lose more…

But when she wants to stop playing, she can do this whenever she want and when she have it she can decided what to do with her victim: cheated on him while he work for the family, play the victim role to get attention, keep the baby and get money , houses and goverment payment for being a single mother, etc… and all with the support of the media and the feminine laws who still beat the men in our today’s society…

So, i was wondering:

1- If the worst punishment that a woman can get ,which is be alone for the rest of her life, because she hits the wall after years and years f~~~ing without control and no get advantage of the sexual necessity of men… Isn’t this what a huge amount of good men’s had to suffer during his youth years and then the way that they MUST to choose in order to avoid risk contracts with women with fatal legal conecuences?

I mean, consider that i know a huge amount of great boys who don’t choose in female terms and accept ANY woman who let him to have sex with her… even fat ones without teeth (i’m not kidding)… how can i imagine that a MGTOW is more than a movement for save us from the worst scenarios with the negative consecuences who is, at the same time, what is reserved for the worst and less smart women who not play well the cards during his good years?… even in the bad years! because there is always a dick who will accept to insert in his vaginas even if he need vaseline to made it…

 

2- And the other thing is… even if MGTOW goes viral and get the amount of attention of, for example, vegetarians have in the food market… do you really think that we can change something more that save a few men from the abyss?

If vegetarians can’t battle against meat market, do you really think that the power of the women over us can be weaken for a little percentage of men that can achieve of see over the lies of the media , their own realtives, their friends and over the women chitchat itself?

I’m looking forward your opinions…

Greetings

[Elgos_GrimParticipant 254]

Violent action changes the world, peacefull action changes people.

Will we change the world? I don’t know. But saving men will help save others, and hopefully they will save more. We don’t need all men to join us, just enough to create male scarcity, though honestly I’d consider MGTOW (primarily) to be more of a way of life than an activist movement. Look to MRA if you want to take more aktive a part in changing the world.

[ToadParticipant 271]

Elgos_Grim wrote:

Look to MRA if you want to take more aktive a part in changing the world.

I don’t want to change the world. That’s why consider myself MGTOW and not MRA, but i read in a lot of places that when MGTOW goes viral the women will suffer because they can’t count with the men anymore…

And I simply  don’t think that is going to happen..

[EekParticipant 1162]

Women won’t suffer because of MGTOWs they will suffer because they will start attacking each other like rabid dogs.

Look at the female MRAs, and you can see it starting.

Women are far better than men at destroying each other.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

I believe if you are MGTOW, with the assumption you personally are going to change the world doing that, you are severely overestimating your ability to impact the world.  If you are going MGTOW because you think it is the in thing to do, and you and others doing it will end end up changing the world, then you are going to be disappointed.

My take on being MGTOW, is that you believe it works for you best, and you do it to strengthen yourself and get a better life for yourself.  A bonus of this is you can then have the strength to help others you want to help.  The long shot, win the lottery approach, will be that the world changes.  But, I suggest you fear the world changing for the better when you do this, because you may not like the results.

Relationships with you personally can change.  But, if they don’t, you are free to walk.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[WolveParticipant 191]

You know man, I won’t know for sure what happens in the future but what I do know that one difference between MGTOW and the vegetarians are that not eating meat means those guys got 0.001% less money in their pockets they don’t really care about that even if the whole business goes to s~~~ they can still slowly transfer assets and invest in other places but when it comes to MGTOW we are scaring them because of the possible effects on the population.
Just imagine if a quarter of all the men stopped going into a relation now that means a quarter of all the women have no guy to leech off of but it is not just that if we decided we didn’t want children the whole idea of monogamy (not sure if I got the right word I mean single person sexual relationship) will create a financial disaster because you have a quarter less people on average when they get old who have to somehow support them even with equal people to almost no decline in the western world a financial disaster came from the baby boom imagine if that number got quadrupled problemwise.
In the end I don’t know what will happen but this is the future we are scaring the s~~~ out of them with if / when we become really big.

[ToadParticipant 271]

I just read that in my country there are less women with children but more children for women…That’s because inmigrats know that in my country they have subvenctions, houses and privilegies if they have kids and also, while here we are scared of trust women of our country because of the unfair laws, and want to have enough money to give them a good life, they have childrens without control because with less money here they live far better than in their countries, and -i think- they have less feminist bulls~~~ available in their cultures…

The native population of many countries- mine first- will disapear in a few years, because of that, people like me going to MGTOW and other factors… That’s a fact that we can see right now… not just a supposition…

[RoyDalParticipant]

Elgos_Grim wrote:

Violent action changes the world, peacefull action changes people.

Will we change the world? I don’t know. But saving men will help save others, and hopefully they will save more. We don’t need all men to join us, just enough to create male scarcity, though honestly I’d consider MGTOW (primarily) to be more of a way of life than an activist movement. Look to MRA if you want to take more aktive a part in changing the world.

Agreed.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

@toad don’t worry about people taking handouts from the government (welfare). When the economy crashes they will be likely be screwed and hoping to find jobs.

MGTOW will work if you improve yourself. I started rituals to improve myself. I want 3 to 5 new rituals to improve my life. I started doing pushups about a month ago and will be doing some weight training. It feels to build some muscles for health reasons. Collectively MGTOW maybe able to change people but it will be difficult. To me MGTOW is about self improvement and helping other men.

Women are already seeing men going their own way due to radical feminists (3rd wave feminists). Do not be fooled because all women should be against all feminism (first wave feminism to third wave feminism). When the economy hits the fan I am guessing more and more women will be against all feminism.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[BDParticipant 1146]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

I believe if you are MGTOW, with the assumption you personally are going to change the world doing that, you are severely overestimating your ability to impact the world.

I agree with Richard, change takes a loooong time.

Be careful what you wish for, the government may increase taxes on supposed Mgtows as punishment, if we stay slightly under the radar then we will reap the benefits for ourselves. The women of our generation are already ruined, write them off.

I view society as the Titanic slowly sinking, the manginas are helping the women and children board the life rafts, listening to the violins, waiting to drown, and only a select few men know about the secret Mgtow raft out back, that’s for us.

Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.

[FrankyParticipant 2338]

I doubt if any change will come from us.I’m sorry if i sound to down for you Toad, you’ll have to find something you’re passionate about and try and live your life as happily as possible.Being alone is not that hard as everyone describes it to be, just eat, sleep do what you like, enjoy what you can and then die.

[ToadParticipant 271]

Franky wrote:

I doubt if any change will come from us.I’m sorry if i sound to down for you Toad, you’ll have to find something you’re passionate about and try and live your life as happily as possible.Being alone is not that hard as everyone describes it to be, just eat, sleep do what you like, enjoy what you can and then die.

You are right. being alone is the part that less bothers me. And BTW i have a lot of passions: i do a lot of sport, i write some short stories, i play guitar, i like video games,movies, books, i write in a “normal” web site with a few friends. i have a good job a house, a car, i travel a lot i keep trying to improve my english…and being with a woman could crumble everything with just making me believe that i found a NAWALT that’s the reason why a stay away from them even when they attract me…

This is a place where i can Confess myself even when the claim is childish because a lot of people can accused me of being lucky for not having kids and a worst experience with females than like i do… but to me talking here is a relief because around me anyone have my thoughts about this themes and i feel lonely in my normal life…that’s all…

Accept my human fate is a easy thing…We all die alone, i already knew that since i was a little boy…

Let’s try at least make it happily…

regards!

[WolfParticipant 890]

Toad wrote:

Will really MGTOW change society?

Toad wrote:

2- And the other thing is… even if MGTOW goes viral and get the amount of attention of, for example, vegetarians have in the food market… do you really think that we can change something more that save a few men from the abyss?

Perhaps, but I don’t think that is the goal. For me, MGTOW is understanding the cards that are dealt to me, and choosing not to participate. I really couldn’t care less what society does about it. With this said, if enough guys GTOW, this could have an impact on society thru the breakdown of the family unit, and society will need to adjust its rules. Whether or not this happens, it won’t happen in my lifetime.

Some may view MGTOW as some form of ideology to change society, but I see it as individualism. Feminists would slam me for that, but they are hypocrites. They will say that their ideology is for the betterment of society and children, but that’s a cover. In reality, they are destroying society with their gynocentrism.

BD wrote:

Be careful what you wish for, the government may increase taxes on supposed Mgtows as punishment, if we stay slightly under the radar then we will reap the benefits for ourselves. The women of our generation are already ruined, write them off.

IMO, the bachelor tax already exists. In Canada, there are a plethora amount of tax breaks for families. How many for singles making good cash? None.

 

[ToadParticipant 271]

Wolf wrote:

Whether or not this happens, it won’t happen in my lifetime.

That’s my opinion too. that’s why i don’t care if the society crumble or not because i don’t going to figh for something that i will not see the results… society fooled me, well, i let it with the consequences…

But many others think that our way of life could be a powerful slap to the face of the goverments, faminst and women behavior in general. a form of revenge for their crimes against men, to finally take care and adjust the things keeping in mind that we have rights too… and, i not only think that this is imposible task… but need so many years that we will never see it if happen eventually…

 

[ToadParticipant 271]

Toad wrote:

IMO, the bachelor tax already exists. In Canada, there are a plethora amount of tax breaks for families. How many for singles making good cash? None.

Agree.

[нσтησσвParticipant 830]

Maybe… But probably no.

 

Just look @ Japan.

My Goal: To Leave Society.

[Anonymous 12]

Why wouldn’t it work?

We are simply men doing what is right for us.

Look at other social outcast type groups, take the Amish for an example they are isolated by choice, and yet they thrive, they are productive and survive despite all signs showing they should have assimilated and wiped themselves out ages ago.

. My point is that it’s not about these rowdy Feminist style parades and protests, that p~~~es people off and only attracts a malcontent minority. For the most part what you want is normal people, you want normal men to stand up and realize that they are wasting their time in a society that has been designed for women.

 

Also to wake up and stop putting effort into making women happy as it is an impossible goal.

[ToadParticipant 271]

нσтησσв wrote:

Maybe… But probably no.   Just look @ Japan.

I will make someday a post about Japan… Their are always the mirror where i see me as a good man when i was a boy due their behavior… notice what happen to me… the same to the entire country who deffended the “honor”…

They quit…

Well done… bad news because i like them… they are always in the future…now, they are showing us our future…

[ToadParticipant 271]

Anonymous wrote:

For the most part what you want is normal people, you want normal men to stand up and realize that they are wasting their time in a society that has been designed for women.

But this “normal people” who thinks that only the crazy feminist are the danger don’t realize that the real enemy is in the “normal women” who have everything and yet still play the role of victims…

That’s why i was fooled all my life… by the “normal people” with their “normal speeches”

[Anonymous 12]

Toad wrote:

Morlock wrote:

For the most part what you want is normal people, you want normal men to stand up and realize that they are wasting their time in a society that has been designed for women.

But this “normal people” who thinks that only the crazy feminist are the danger don’t realize that the real enemy is in the “normal women” who have everything and yet still play the role of victims… That’s why i was fooled all my life… by the “normal people” with their “normal speeches”

I think the average man is a lot more awake then people realize. I am talking the normal man, not some college educated Left Wing mangina.

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