Do Women want Equality?

[TYEParticipant 291]

Do Women want Equality? Is the Ray Rice situation proof that they’re uneducated on what it actually is? I weigh 170 pounds I would never slap a man that weighs 50+ pounds more than me, so why do women feel like they can?! I say a serious double standard is in place here. a man should not lower his strength to make a woman feel like his equal. She needs to simply avoid conflict, and remove herself from the situation. The entire story is mind blowing the same women that want equality keep saying that ray rice “hit her way to hard”, and that he should take the slap like a “real man” (Blue pill magina) shockingly this is coming from both men and women.

[TheBardParticipant 974]

Women want only the benefits of equality and none of the responsibilities that come with it. Women want to be treated as equals only when it benefits them and then when things get too hard they want to be treated as special.

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

Feminists definitely don’t want equality. For the rest I guess it depends on how they define it.

I’m always skeptical of people in the sociopolitical world who use equality as their watchword. Even those who have been genuinely oppressed at some point in time. The reason is once they do reach some type of equality they are not satisfied and they’ve gained enough momentum to try and get an advantage against their now so called equals. Give them an inch and they take a mile, etc.

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

Agreed, no equality without accountability.

<cite>@thebard said:</cite>
Women want only the benefits of equality and none of the responsibilities that come with it. Women want to be treated as equals only when it benefits them and then when things get too hard they want to be treated as special.

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Astute observation. But you don’t need to look very far for the answer.
Treat a woman “equally” (with zero privileges) and she will accuse you of being misogynist.

You don’t even need to be rigorous about it or wait for it to get violent – which it always will, because women will be the first to hit during any kind of dispute. It’s not even a percentage. It’a fact like the sun will rise tomorrow. Even on a most basic level, you won’t need to treat women “badly” or as badly as they treat men, you just need to treat them with NO free unearned advantages, and she will cry “misogyny” and a “war on women”.

Put it in terms of integers:

• Women generally start their lives and operate with a POSITIVE “cash-flow” point balance at all times….. seemingly waltzing through life with +20 points without ever losing any.

• A man begins his life with -10 points and spends an enormous amount of energy and effort getting to 0 and he must work to maintain that level. This is considered a modicum of “success” – just to stay at ZERO – because a man without even the most basic job is considered a “loser”.

She is used to advantages and unearned adoration, worship, and privileges which (in her mind) are OWED to her. They are not even considered “advantages”. They are expected minimums. To treat her “equally” would be to place her at LEAST at 0 and expect her to earn every +1. This is why unemployed women with no savings or high-paying career (who have the intelligence of a chimpanzee) can still be considered an acceptable member of society.

A man can not.
He is a “loser” unless he earns his way out of worthlessness.

This concept is totally foreign to women. They are OBLIVIOUS to it. They refuse to acknowledge it. As a man, you’re a loser, a scumbeg, a douche, a rapist, a cheater, a criminal, a pervert (etc.) and all kinds of NEGATIVES even when you are just a basic working citizen with not a blemish on your record. You are expected to constantly prove yourself, just to stay out of a negative balance. You can even be an established professional, a professor, a doctor and be removed from sitting next to children on an airplane simply because you are LESS THAN ZERO in the eyes of society. You’re a “pedophile” before you are a professor. You are a “potential rapist” before you are just a working man out enjoying a drink.

Men spend a great deal of their lives carrying a negative point balance.
If women wanted “equality” they would have to accept this. And they never will.

This is how you know the feminist claim for “equality” is a bulls~~~ LIE – through and through.
TRUE EQUALITY would be to treat women like worthless SCUM before treating them like basic citizens.
Women would never stand for that. They don’t even see the value in it.

Women aren’t even willing to put the minimal effort in to earn a single point like the “respect” they demand.
Just starting her at 0 would be considered “treating her badly”.

No. Women don’t want “equality”. Not even close.
They don’t even know the meaning of the word.

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To apply this to the Ray Rice incident as an example…. you don’t need to hit a women back when she initiated violence. Even when you totally IGNORE her as a response, she will behave like you are treating her badly. Don’t extend women any privileges, attention or worship and she will behave like she is being treated “badly”. She will throw a screaming FIT. It’s an absolutely certainty,”equality” is the LAST thing women want.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[TYEParticipant 291]

Wonderful Observation ! What is shocking is that everyone fails to mention she hit him FIRST, in some states you’re legally entitled to 3 self defense hits on the person that strikes you. I wouldn’t be surprised if she has a history of violent behavior, I have no doubt in my mind that women result to physical violence first in domestic violence situations, and are the first to spark arguments they’re not far off from Neanderthals. Men are progressing, and evolving mean while women remain a species stuck in a mystified state unwilling to better themselves.

[strnghtnnmbrsParticipant 14]

It is interesting that this topic comes from a mainstream media piece.

This thread “Do women want Equality”? This is a very generic labeled thread.

Equality in what? Home, Work, or being a man?

The law is clear on violence, no matter who hits who first. So in this
light, is it wrong for a woman to hit a man? Or is this a thread that
If a woman behaves as a man, should she be treated as a man to man instead
of a woman to man?

As far as home, there are a small percentage of women who want to be a “stay-at-home”
mom who doesn’t have to worry if the bills are paid and if they aren’t going to have
a home to live in the next day. Some small percentage of women want the man to be
leader in the home, but to a man who holds himself accountable. The majority of women,
have their own homes, their own careers, without a man present. This is based on solid
research. (See Bureau of Labor Statistics) Do Women want Equality?

As far as work, we men have allowed an unequal balance because we cannot seem separate our
pleasure from business. Business is logical not emotional. Business is created to make
money, nothing more, nothing less. However, the advantage is in the protections given for women
and the advantage in laws, regulations, and advantages for small business creation. Ever tried to
find a grant for a small business loan and are a male? Ever try to get out of work because of
having a baby, or excused for irrational behavior because you have a menstrual cycle? Of course
not because we are men. Do Women want Equality?

In relationships? Ahh, this should be the defining thread. In a relationship, Do Women want Equality?

Thoughts?

[AlexIsAfraidSpectator 113]

Women want power, not equality.

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

New age women simply want money and power without responsibility.
In other words, they want to be spoiled, overgrown children with zero mental capacity.

[TheBardParticipant 974]

<cite>@strnghtnnmbrs said:</cite>
It is interesting that this topic comes from a mainstream media piece.

This thread “Do women want Equality”? This is a very generic labeled thread.

Equality in what? Home, Work, or being a man?

The law is clear on violence, no matter who hits who first. So in this
light, is it wrong for a woman to hit a man? Or is this a thread that
If a woman behaves as a man, should she be treated as a man to man instead
of a woman to man?

If women want equality if a woman hits a man it should be treated no different then if a man hit another man. A man had the right to defend himself from a crazy woman. If you attack anyone then you are fair game to be attacked back. A man should have to let his crazy girlfriend beat him just because a woman shouldn’t be hit.

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

I might listen to what feminists have to say once they successfully campaign to have alimony made illegal, thus relieving the man of any financial burden, outside of reasonable child support payments, after a divorce. This would also include the person in the marriage who made the house payments keeps the house, as well as any other property that was paid for by the respective party. If the man paid for the house, the car, the property etc., via his income then he keeps it and visa versa.

If women want to be equal then they should have to pick themselves up by the proverbial bootstraps and get on with their life, generating income to survive on their own without relying on one nickel from their ex. I mean isn’t that what these feminists want? Women that never have to rely on help from a man?

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.

[Deoxyribose95Participant 5]

Feminism may have been for the greater good of the early 20th century with the women’s suffrage movement and push to gain civil equality, but 21st century feminism really has nothing to do with equality anymore. It’s been weaponized by the mainstream media to promote double standards as mentioned in some earlier comments. Ex: Women hitting men equals comedy, but men hitting women equals abuse or sexual assault.

[wonkoParticipant 52]

@keymaster explained perfectly
…You are expected to constantly prove yourself, just to stay out of a negative balance. You can even be an established professional, a professor, a doctor and be removed from sitting next to children on an airplane simply because you are LESS THAN ZERO in the eyes of society. You’re a “pedophile” before you are a professor. You are a “potential rapist” before you are just a working man out enjoying a drink….

What this means in practical terms: To Her and Society the idea of an appropriate trade between a man and woman is that he bust his ass to give her things for her approval that he is NOT a scumbag by allowing him to give them to her. This is utter insanity. wonko recognized this once upon a long time ago while he was opening the door for a middle aged women (he almost dropped the door on her). He spent the whole afternoon thinking it through. That was the last time and now he just wanders through the door on his own oblivious. Occasionally woman/mangina will ask where are your manners. And wonko always the low profile invisible lite blue collar shirt, explains “sorry Sir I didn’t notice you.” Everyone is a Sir now. Ghosting MGTOW resulted in tremendous relief to not have to be concerned about all that crap; plus, being invisible is great you can go any where.

wonko

[DkaiksterParticipant 90]

If women wanted equality, they would be signing petitions to reduce the number of days off due to maternity leave to match those of paternity leaves. Women would be signing petitions to ban tampons as they sign petitions to ban urinals. They definitely would choose to share public restrooms rather than have separate ones for male and female. They would hold protests to be given “equal” work in the army rather than a reduced labor. And they would definitely want to remove the stupid saying “You don’t hit a woman”. Ray Rice rulez!

They want to KEEP the advantages they ALREADY have AND gain the few advantages that men have.

[cr8054Participant 2]

Do women want equality?? HELL NO!! They want to be put up on a pedestal and worshipped like goddesses. They want men to be beneath them and to be nothing more than slaves, an ATM, and genetic material so they can have a baby. Oh wait, that what they want alpha males for. The rest of us they want dead.

[Wandering MGTOWParticipant 34]

I once dated a young woman who turned out to be a hitter. She knew damn well I was a serious karate student too. Silly girl. We broke up, but she remained in the not-hit-back-in-retaliation category. Lucky for her.

I tried to make wiser choices after that. This usually did not work. Trying is not succeeding. There are lots and lots of crazy broads out there, and they are all single and eager for a long term relationship.

[bladeParticipant]

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[OdinParticipant 524]

They watch too many movies where the woman can take on 6-10 guys at once.

[Anonymous 3]

Women and men use language differently.

Men use language to describe the world and to achieve objectives.

Women use language to manipulate men.

To a woman, a word doesn’t actually have a standard meaning. It will mean a dozen different things depending on what she wants it to mean. If men can be manipulated by that word, she will eagerly use the stigma of that word to get what she wants at that moment, but change it to her whim to browbeat men in another way when that’s also more convenient.

No words are more powerful for women to be used in this way than “rape” and “equality”. There are a few related words like misogyny that exhibit that same trait however.

Nonetheless, none of that matters. Once you understand women are liars, have zero respect or gratitude for any man, have no loyalty whatsoever, and have no compunction whatsoever of stealing resources at all times while demanding more and allowing none for men, and that society will doggedly enforce all of this for them, the only real solution you can have is to be MGTOW and cut off interactions.

No sane society can function by trusting all of women’s words as truth, giving them authority and power, and lowering men to that pathetic level. Eventually either men resent it, or the men become so weak that another, superior culture of men will invade it and destroy it. There’s a lot of teeth gnashing about that happening now, but it’s inevitable. The only question is if we’ll be alive to see it or not. I suspect I won’t, but who knows.

[OldBillParticipant]

Women are inveterate solipsists. In their minds, the universe and everything in it only exist to in their relationship to give women. This ingrained solipsism of women is then constantly reinforced by a culture which all but automatically defers to women and their wishes.

All of that means that women want what they want and, without thought or care, will use any tool, tactic, or technique to achieve what they want because anything a women does is by definition “good”.

If appeals to equality get women what they want, they will appeal to equality.

If appeals to chivalry get women what they want, they will appeal to chivalry.

Pussy passes, quotas, “women & children first”, set asides, legally codified privileges, legally codified equality, women will use any and all of it without compunction to get what they want.

There are no thoughts about hypocrisy, about appearances, about legality, about fairness, or about anything other than getting what they want.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

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