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So some people are bitching about how women always “win” arguments. They don’t. They use some dumb f~~~ing weapons to appear as if they won. As far as I can tell, there are 4:
1. Ad hominem, ie, responding to arguments by attacking a person’s character, rather than to the content of their arguments. These usually take the form of shaming tactics.
2. Mischaracterization, ie, to give something a false character or say it in a misleading manner.
3. Flat out lies/denial
4. Playing the victim
If you think that women do have other weapons please let me know! I hate arguments with women… always lead to no good…. Also can someone make a video on women and arguments? I asked sandman, but he only seems to make videos after donations :/
Blue2Red: I have another: it is called goading I believe. that is when they get in your face and go crazy to try and make you hit them, then they report you for violence, assault, and/or domestic abuse. I am surprised Sandman hasn’t done a video on this but my advice is free and it hope it helps you. By the way, did he say what he charges to make a video? that guy is a video making machine. Never seen anything like it.
Let’s not forget SHAMING which is no more than an infantile deflection. That’s how women “win’ arguments… by trying to snot-nose the other into submission.
They use ANYTHING before logic facts and reason, because deep in their hearts, the know they will ultimately lose an intellectual confrontation. It’s an open admission of inferiority.
Example:
“I’ve notice 5 out of 5 of my ex girlfriends were all greedy, backstabbing manipulative & gold digging bitches.”.
“STOP GENERALIZING!!!! NOT ALL WOMEN ARE LIKE THAT!!!!”.
“OK. But I am talking about the 100% of women I have known extremely well who ARE like that.”.
“YOU’RE JUST BITTER!!!! YOU PROBABLY HAVE A TINY PENIS!!!!!!!”.
….. etc.
As regular and predictable as their f~~~ing periods.
“Stop generalizing” is one of my all time favorites.
It tells you she is an intellectual retard.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous5I have been in so many arguments with women that I literally have to walk away because they are too f~~~ing stupid and not worth my time.
I ask them: “Why are you mad”, “What do you want?”, “How can I fix this/make you happy”?
They stare at me like a deer in headlights and say “I don’t know”.
Like WTF?! You are bitching at me for 4-5 hours straight and I am asking/pleading/begging “What do you want?” in the nicest voice possible and they don’t even f~~~ing know! Women are slightly above children. It is a fact. They need to accept that patriarchy works and that turning the west into a matriarchy will only f~~~ things up because women are lazy as f~~~. I can already predict the fallout when women have supreme power. Society will be f~~~ed.
Anonymous42The art of arguing with a woman:
1st off: don’t give a s~~~! As soon as you care you’re f~~~ed!
2n: Stay one step ahead; and when they catch up (in thought) switch direction, subject, and topic, that f~~~s them up good.
3rd: Control their anger: I mean boil them like a lobster! Let them stew in their own juices! They’ll be soft and malleable with a fried brain.
4th: manipulation; when they start pleading, wanting, and promising; You pause, pause, pause, stall, stall, stall, just long enough for the horns to come out; it’ll turn into, I hate you, screaming, yelling, and badgering… Timing is critical! It’s like a bumpy road, send them through every f~~~ing pothole in the road until their frame breaks or the wheels come off; they’ll be crying, whimpering, and wallowing in their own disaster.
5th Be a prick; they’ll learn how to properly approach you in a respectful manner…
6th NEVER let a woman lead an argument, If she insists on doing so; Drop everything and leave immediately, ignore the smell of burning clam. If you can’t control her, let her run wild and be eaten.
7th Never ask questions, You’ll be facing a machine gun of answers… always attack their pride, their insecurities, and their egos, Break them down to size. knock them off their platform.
8th: Treat them no different than anybody else; they just love to abuse a white knight sap in front of their girl friends, it’s an ego booster, and a f~~~ing joke amongst other hens, Ha f~~~ing Ha you sucker!
9th Never give them control over your emotions, present yourself as an emotional rock, let them bash until they’re broken…
10th Most important, let them realize they can’t win an argument against you, because you’re going your own f~~~ing way!
Anonymous42I disagree, I can use all of these tactic much better than a woman can. They use them, yes. But I can use them better.
1. Ad hominem, ie, responding to arguments by attacking a person’s character, rather than to the content of their arguments. These usually take the form of shaming tactics.
2. Mischaracterization, ie, to give something a false character or say it in a misleading manner.
3. Flat out lies/denial
4. Playing the victim
Let’s not forget <span style=”color: #005cab;”>SHAMING</span> which is no more than an infantile deflection. That’s how women “win’ arguments… <span style=”color: #005cab;”>by trying to snot-nose the other into submission</span>
Anonymous42We all have different skills, that we can agree on; I’m here to learn things too… regardless of the appearance of the source, I’m belittling no one! Nor will engage in the belittling of my self, not that anybody’s done so.
I find MGHOW’S are much more logical and receptive than the average cross-cut of humanity. I can’t find common ground with blue-pill fem-swallows, their breath reeks of clam juice, and their minds have a misplaced obligation of duty, being totally bridled in the harness of slavery. How can one who’s suffered this fate and gained their freedom, associate with the uncle tom’s of the gynocentric machinery that continues to grind up men, dripping buckets of blood, and spitting out their crushed and broken bones…..
Somthing to add onto ‘John Doe’s Number 4.Playing the Victim, is the act of ‘Crying’.
They do this when they have no other way out and cannot win with words (as a Last resort, so to speak) and/or when nobody cares about how they feel.
Any whiteknight or mangina will be suckered into this and instantly side with her. Seen it done many times.
Well then, what about number 5? (It’s another ace from their sleeve) as in taking out their natural born (even though fully alleged) universal innocence usually verbalized as “I can’t do anything about it, that’s just the way I am (or the way I see things)… …as a woman” My response to this: Ever heard of the term responsible..? If need be do yourself a favor and look it up in a dictionary, would you…? Cheers… … “lady” (and don’t forget to put on a cheeky smirk straight after that and walk right off)
Whatever you do, always be prepared for the worst…
Best
Ned T.
I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC
Anonymous42I’ve watched a Woman ball her eyes out to suck in her mangina, and then while being embraced she winked at one of her girlfriends ..seen allot of s~~~. They can turn on the tears “as fast”, if not “faster”, than they can change their stories.
Offering our trust to the modern woman is the same as trusting a whole nut-house of lunatics lodged in one mind…
I’ve seen tactics like that while I was teaching at a certain post-secondary institution. I once had a student who turned in a garbage lab report. I suggested she stop by my office and we go through my grading because I wanted her to explain what she wrote. I was also giving her the benefit of the doubt, namely that I missed something.
Things went fine for a few minutes but when she realized that she really did write crapola, she promptly turned on the waterworks and stormed out of my office. Guess who got skinned for that?
Later, she approached me and asked if she could write it again. Knowing that I’d get into trouble if I refused, I reluctantly agreed. She never turned in a report and that was the last I ever heard of the matter. I’m sure that my departmental supervisors gave her a free pass on it because I was being such a meanie to her.
She graduated. If there was any justice, her career in industry would have been short because she proved to be a lousy employee. Somehow, I doubt it. People like her always seem to succeed in the workplace and are amply rewarded for their incompetence and political games. On the other hand, people like me, who get a proper education, work hard at being good at what we do, and play by the rules consistently get screwed.
Idiocy like that was one reason I eventually quit teaching.
Anonymous42@QuarterWaveVertical
I understand changing your life’s plans to escape the tyranny of woman’s game. I was in town politics; the back stabbing, back biting, and atrocious behavior only served to disinterest me in attaining federal and environmental grants for the town. They fought all the time, women threatening lawsuits for the slightest reasons, The destruction of character was a daily event! The immorality resembled a dog kennel, with all the cage gates wide open. Marriages destroyed, people having to leave town because of the humiliation they were put through… Most of New England is saturated with femstitutions and the gynocentric mindset, and it’s destroying the place. Here they are collectively unfriendly and hostile to bushiness. The taxes are bleeding vast areas into a slum of burned out dwellings and burned down factories. Some predict Boston to become the extended end of the now infamous RUST BELT. New York State is even worse, and farther west Detroit (Distroit) and farther west Indiana. The rust belt is real and tangible evidence that we are falling into poverty due to mismanagement and corruption. The expenses of our immortality and corruption of this nation will certainly lead to our destruction and the end of America as we know it. All because of slothfulness and selfishness I place squarely on the shoulders of feminists. Destroy the family and segregate the man to be a collective gynocentric work horse.
I’m sure it’s going to work out just fine for all the feminists demanding their 50% of nothing………….
The most common tool I have encountered with women is “shifting sands.” She brings up grievance A, often with some emotional attachment. I listen to her about grievance A, I think about it, then respond. Grievance A becomes grievance B. No acknowledgement is made regarding grievance A or it’s solution. Sensing a trap, I attempt to define grievance B. She resists any attempt at defining B because if B IS defined, then it CAN be solved. She doesn’t want to solve A or B. She wants a fight — or something else. A logical and reasoned person outmatches her. Then she either: 1) cries (for it’s manipulative effects,) 2) sends you to the doghouse (a power move,) or 3) uses the event to “prove” whatever self-righteous or illogical point she was making.
This was one of my early discoveries during my purple pill days. It appeared that it was a tactic solely of women. Now, when I see a man do it, I can’t repress my laughter. More than once I couldn’t help but say, “You argue like a girl.”
Now I am just an observer. I WOULD reason, but some very simple criteria must be met: 1) you must be agreeable, 2) we define the topic, and 3) any logic fallacies MUST be acknowledged and thrown out. I assume they (men and women, but particularly women) won’t pass number one — agreeability.
Anonymous42It sickens me to be around (Girlie-man) I have a relative I stopped talking to in 1012, acts like a girl, so saturated with estrogen I treat him like a girl. He’s been pouting ever since!
I change my word for no one, My decisions are for the most part final. The girlie-man can’t wait to pounce on another MAN, with feminists helping him push their narrow incorrect point of view. I don’t think he’ll ever change, he’s a perfectly formed, and molded mangina, complete with inverted penis, and b~~~~ that have transformed to pussy-flaps…..
reminds me of this video.
If you have to take it to an emotional level when you are losing an argument then you have no business debating in the first place. Women arguing feminist talking points are easily dismissed when you point out the double standards.
Also throw in the fact that women didn’t earn their right to vote if you really want to see them lose their minds.
The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.I just stumbled on this quote a few minutes ago: “Arguing with a person who has renounced reason… is like administering medicine to the dead.” -Thomas Paine
Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you
Along with ad hominem, another argument tactic women use is categorical (as opposed to incremental) thinking, which basically means treating decision making as all-or-nothing rather than trade-offs at the margin (the logical way).
The problem with trying to “win” an argument against these tactics is that it often requires going into an in-depth discussion of the tactics themselves, which you can only do if you have a lot of time and someone willing to listen.
But the real reason that women supposedly “win” arguments is simply that men en masse have convinced themselves that they have to keep women happy, because they might have a hard time “getting some” elsewhere. The key to winning is to be the one more willing to walk away.
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