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Anonymous13Although a lot of us here are trying hard to warn others against the dangers of marriage and modern women, can we really make a difference?
I believe that as a COLLECTIVE we can and we most certainly do.
It was mentioned in one of my posts that we’re either preaching to the choir or that the well intentioned advice is falling on deaf ears because blue pill men don’t listen and they have to learn this the hard way for themselves.
Now, there is some truth to this. Quite a lot in fact.
Thanks Scaberian for pointing this out.BUT,
To me though, those are the two extremes.
There is a whole group of men, countless numbers who fall between these two extremes.
We do indeed have a world full of confused men out there, who know that something is wrong but can’t quite put their finger on it. They can’t vocalise it or process it at this stage. It literally is like a splinter in their mind.
They’re waking up while still married. They’re due to get married but their sixth sense is telling them that something doesn’t feel right. Their girlfriend is being a bitch and they don’t know why or what to do.
Something REALLY bothers them.
Some men will type into Google, ‘why is my girlfriend such a bitch?’ ‘why do women cheat’ ‘why does my woman put me down?’ ‘why does she trash talk me to others’
They KNOW it’s not right.
They don’t know how widespread it is, that it’s not just them.
For all I went through, the absolute s~~~ vortex, if I hadn’t found this site and had a Eureka moment when I did, I may well. after healing have tried another relationship. Afteral not all women can be like that, right?
WRONG.
The impact of this site and the posts in it really have a PROFOUND effect on those who are in the process of waking up, or feel uneasy about something in their gut. Who are going through divorce and feel lost. Who are facing false abuse charges.
Those who basically feel all alone with this s~~~.
However way they may stumble upon this oasis, either by direct recommendation, digging down the rabbit hole themselves, or simply seeing the acronym MGTOW and looking it up. The FACT is MANY arrive here and lurk for months or years, swallowing red pills and nodding their heads with every post.
I know I did.
You google something, end up here, read a few posts and WHAM, the light goes on, the red pill is fully digested, it is confirmed over and over and the more stories you read here the more red pill you become.
The stronger your RESOLVE to be MGTOW and never let another bitch compromise you in any shape or form again.
Either Spiritually, emotionally and financially.
No, just NO.
You’re like, ‘why the hell couldn’t I see this??’.
I knew something was wrong but it took seeing the words of a thousands of other men for it to fully CRYSTALLISE that it was never YOU.
It really is THEM.
Marriage is a sham.
A fraudulent SCAM.
Relationships do not work in the long run.
Women and the laws are destroying GOOD MEN.
Never stop posting your stories here.
Your stories made a HUGE impact on me.
THAT is why I’m here.
Right, and I have no doubt what you guys are doing has an effect. My point simply was I don’t think it needs to be outright said all the time. By all means, share your experiences. I love the stories and the advice I read. My point is that men will figure it out for themselves. You guys have to trust that. Stressing out about telling others not to get married, at the end of the day, does nothing. Tell your stories and let them take it from there. Let them put two and two together, if they come up with 5 well then that’s on them. I may have used extremes but that was to illustrate my thought. Men who come here may not fall under one extreme or the other, but what they come away from this site with does. They either see the light after reading these amazing posts, or they come away believing(at least for the time being) that you guys must be crazy, their girlfriend or wife will never do that to them, naaahhh. You may have planted a seed but it will be a LOOONG time(if ever) before it grows.
I guess I should have clarified more.
I, Lelouch Vi Britannia, command you, all of you, to Go Your Own Way!!
Anonymous42Absolutely! Thanks to the 23,000 horror stories within this sight the last remaining scraps of wool have been lifted from my eyes! Sharper than ever when it comes to people that use and abuse other people. Helps me to smell the s~~~ long before it ever surfaces and can be seen.
Like being in a wolf pack, we learn and teach one another things necessary for survival..
The other side of this coin are the sheep being slaughtered by their own arrogance and ignorance.
Great post. Unfortunately for many of us we found out about MGTOW too late. I was brought up in a traditional family and was like a lamb to a slaughter when it came to relationships – I never doubted that the way to happiness was to get married and have kids. It is our duty to spread the word to as many men as we can before they get screwed over. We may not be able to prevent all casualties but by at least planting the seeds of doubt we might be able to save a few. I would love to know the answer to your question and see how many guys saved themselves from marriage/relationships because of MGTOW.
Anonymous13Unfortunately for many of us we found out about MGTOW too late
I believe it’s never too late. No matter how far you’ve gone down the wrong road, it’s never too late to turn back.
So, yes many here found MGTOW too late and are already married, have awoken while married etc.
BUT
I, for one, will NEVER marry again.
Without this site I think some that might have been tempted again, now have the absolute resolve to never go down that route again.
I know some guys can’t be helped, they will get divorce raped THREE times and still be clueless, but to those who have come out of a bad marriage in a fog.
We make a difference.
Man, I was in a world of pain before this site and could have gone either way.
My resolve is now ABSOLUTE.
My knowledge of the TRUTH is now an ABSOLUTE.
I think the effect can be Subjective and/or variable depending on whether or not the information thats presented can be considered accurate and to the letter by the person receiving that information.Whether or not someone interprets information based on individual experience , has any to begin with, or does some fact checking depends on the person.
I cant rationalize AWALT because imo , its Logically Inconsistent however, the Majority is defenitely FUBAR.
Either way,IMO the result is relative.
From what I can tell This generation is hyper sexualized.Trying to warn Someone Who is only driven by the motivation to get laid, wont and Wouldn’t work. And thats the stage most people from what I can tell are at in their life.
A man’s will to survive and prosper is what in the end allows them to take the red pill. In the end this will is what is going to destroy gynocentrism.
A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!
Anonymous42My resolve is now ABSOLUTE.
My knowledge of the TRUTH is now an ABSOLUTE.
That happened to me in 1997, the change is profound and forever, like water turning to ice.
Anonymous13This generation is hyper sexualized.Trying to warn Someone Who is only driven by the motivation to get laid, wont and Wouldn’t work. And thats the stage most people from what I can tell are at in their life.
I agree, if you’re trying to convince some 20 year old hyper sexualised being who feels their only purpose is to get laid. Then not so much. Again, that’s the extreme though.
BUT, my point is, it’s the thousands of mature guys out there who know there’s more to life, who are in a FOG.
THOSE are the guys I think we can reach.
They could go either way, read a few posts here and BINGO.
Men just know the TRUTH when they see it.
But sometimes it takes actually seeing it, written down.
Seriously, the effect of the warnings on this site from countless men had a PROFOUND effect on me.
They definitely saved me from anymore loss, bulls~~~ or pain.
Some guys are that programmed and addicted to pussy they think we are f~~~ed in the head . No matter how many times they get f~~~ed over with the belief NAWALT .
F~~~in pussy slave plantation workers . P~~~ and moan after a break up and straight back on the plantation .
One guy i kind of know and tried helping is in family court and f~~~ing the super vise contact lady . Thought he was using her but has taken off from my neighborhood to live near her then when his court case is over he is moving in whith her . F~~~in retard doesn’t realize these woman are banging lots of single dads going threw the super vised contact process . It has even been on a current affairs show . F~~~ing dumb c~~~ when he gets back and starts p~~~ing and moaning i will have my say . One of the old blokes murv the vietnam vet can’t cant beleave his stupidity . Even his elderly parents are p~~~ed . Thinks he is in f~~~in love . He will be cucked for sure . Stupid c~~~
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
For the past two years, the red pills have been hard to swallow. There’s a part of me that doesn’t want to believe that women can become evil during a marriage. You guys have convinced me to remain single.
Actually, the most convincing statement you could’ve told me, years ago, was this:
SHE WILL STOP HAVING SEX WITH YOU.
That warning is enough for me. Part of the reason I wanted to get married was to get laid on a regular basis. I imagined that my married life would’ve been like this: hot meals, hot sex, and hot dates. Well, I can have those experiences without getting married.
My problems were not just with women. It was also the expectations of my society. I tried to keep up with a collective consciousness that had an interpretation of manhood that wasn’t congruent with who I am. I just can’t live by the standards of others. The more I try, the closer I get to insanity.
Thank you: Tom Leykis, Barbarossa, Turd Flinging Monkey, Keymaster, Stealthy, Coach Kay, various PUAs, various YouTube MGTOW channels, and members of this website that have responded to my questions. You guys helped me to disconnect from “The Matrix.”
"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)
Although a lot of us here are trying hard to warn others against the dangers of marriage and modern women, can we really make a difference?
…. the dangers of the marriage contract.
I am continually compelled to correct others to replace “marriage” with “a marriage CONTRACT” because the mention of “the contract” completely de-romanticizes it, and you don’t need to do much explaining after that. They get it – man or woman.
Imagine the statement:
“Marriage fails a cost/benefit analysis for men.”
A woman will still try and argue that. But say….
“A marriage CONTRACT fails a cost/benefit analysis for men.”
.. and now she shuts the f~~~ up.
She’s got nothing.can we really make a difference?
Yes. I have had more success congratulating a guy about to sign a marriage contract than trying to talk him out of it.
“YOU’RE SIGNING A MARRAIGE CONTRACT?? CONGRATULATIONS!! YOU’RE PERFECT FOR IT!!!”
etc.
Always append the “contract” on to the word “marriage” – especially in front of the bride and other people – and you just detonated a nuke right there.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous25a marriage contract is also an aggressive commercial practice
there’s a whole army of feminist family lawyers and domestic violence zealots waiting to take all a man’s money with their fake science
1.) A wise man learns from other’s mistakes
2.) A smart man learns from his own mistakes
3.) A fool keeps making the same mistake over and overA tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.
Anonymous0@SpiritRR I can confirm that the single biggest Red pill I have taken was your story in the above link. I have always known something was not quite right but I took a whole heap of blue pills through my teens and have only been proper aware for a few years. Reading your story lifted the last piece of wool from my eyes and was the thing that stopped me lurking and had be signing up to this site.
I did not find this place in time to stop myself getting married but it has helped in keeping my spine straight and, if and when I need it, will be a place to come for tactical advice and support when a divorce comes to town.
If it can help a few young lurkers keep their wits about them and save some from having to be such damaged goods like a lot of us, then I say keep it up.
If I ever get bored of these sorts of threads I’ll just stop reading them.A song for any lady lurkers
You just are a
VVVVVVVVVVTHE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
For the past two years, the red pills have been hard to swallow. There’s a part of me that doesn’t want to believe that women can become evil during a marriage. You guys have convinced me to remain single.
Actually, the most convincing statement you could’ve told me, years ago, was this:
SHE WILL STOP HAVING SEX WITH YOU.
That warning is enough for me. Part of the reason I wanted to get married was to get laid on a regular basis. I imagined that my married life would’ve been like this: hot meals, hot sex, and hot dates. Well, I can have those experiences without getting married.
She will not stop having sex with you: she will use sex to manipulate you, she’ll use sex as a weapon in order to get more things from you.
Sex will never be enough for a man within a marriage contract: the lack of sex, withholding sex in a strategic way, is the basis of a wife’s power.
It’s an easy tactic for women, since their sex drive is lesser than us, on average, and they don’t mind sex just like as us do.
It works so:
If a man wants sex all days, then he’ll get sex twice a week.
If a man wants sex twice a week, then he’ll get sex twice a month.
If the man is doing particularly good in serving her, then he get more sex, usually two times more – so:
A man doing particularly good, and wishing sex all days, get sex 4 times per week.
A man doing particularly good, and wishing sex twice a week, get sex once a week.
If the man keep doing particularly good for months, then the bar is raised, and the “particularly good” becomes the new standard, the new normal, and sex drops again, slowly.
A man doing “bad”, not following her whims, is punished by getting half of the standard sex:
A man doing bad, and wishing sex all days, get sex once a week.
A man doing bad, and wishing sex twice a week, get sex once a month.
Blowjobs: forget it. 2-3 times per year, 4 if you’re lucky but no more, even less if she’s “unhaaaaaappy”.
Masturbation: you have to do it hiding from her, if you’ll be caught masturbating then you’ll be punished with even more withdrawal of sex. The only interesting part is the deflection and convoluted reasoning she’ll use to withhold even more sex after having catched you masturbating (a normal, fair, human reaction would be trying to give you more sex: no, it’s the opposite) – usually they allege that they’re withholding sex even more than usual because by masturbating you did made her feeling devalued/inadequate and by so her sexual desire dropped…
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“I know you’re out there. I can feel you now. I know that you’re afraid… you’re afraid of us. You’re afraid of change. I don’t know the future. I didn’t come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it’s going to begin. I’m going to hang up this phone, and then I’m going to show these people what you don’t want them to see. I’m going to show them a world without you. A world without rules and controls, without borders or boundaries. A world where anything is possible. Where we go from there is a choice I leave to you.”
— Neo
In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash
I think it will have made a difference with my oldest (19) son. He is certainly Red Pill, more so than even me.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
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@spiritrr I can confirm that the single biggest Red pill I have taken was your story in the above link. I have always known something was not quite right but I took a whole heap of blue pills through my teens and have only been proper aware for a few years. Reading your story lifted the last piece of wool from my eyes and was the thing that stopped me lurking and had be signing up to this site.
Thanks man, THAT thread was THE ONE.
That was the one I wanted OUT THERE more than anything else.
I was passionate and inflamed when I wrote that.
When I signed up I KNEW I was going to get THAT out there.
I wanted/needed to get across the message that no matter what, in this day and age, no matter how much you trust cupcake and she’s really NOT like that.
Well, the fact of the matter is she CAN.
If she wants to she CAN.
THAT is my problem.
Not that she would.
That she CAN.
Sitting next to snowflake knowing she can pull that trigger any time on my life, any time of the day or night.
On or OFF the premises.
She’s got that gun to your head 24/7 365.
Better not p~~~ her off now.
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