Do men have also female nature?

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

This is getting interesting…….

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[experiencedParticipant]

Mecklot wrote:

Alexadrian wrote:

The female neture? it’s their instincts and the way their brain functions, their thoughts, emotions (lol) their logic (ayy lmao), and their projection onto their behaviors

You’re being broad again. There’s a lot of thoughts, emotions, and behaviors. Be specific.

Alexadrian wrote:

we seen that men are capable of yielding feminine traits and behaviors, cowardice (fear of consequences and agency), laziness or slothfulness

And the moment you become specific, you attach negative labels onto men. As xlrsnbrg said, these are human traits.

It’s clear that you’re using broad terms and specific terms to manipulate us into saying things that you can morph and use as accusations.

Thank You Mecklot for catching this.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[AlexadrianParticipant 13]

Okay, if you need an intro i’ll do it a bit later if i don’t get removed by then, i made the account after i discovered mgtow and this site, i wanted to get closer to the community, but i payed a small amount of attention to it as i got sucked into the youtube mgtow community, i know, poor choice of words, but you get the point; recently i wanted to get involved with the other communities, so i came back, and btw, i like the screensavers, too bad i’m not using any as when i leave my computer i always put it to sleep, but i digress…

I did not realised that you’ll find my words to be as problematic, offensive and controversial as it seem to be from your replies, i never felt in any situation what was or what wasn’t appropriate to say, but that’s my fault i guess

I wanted to know your opinions and ideas, like what was good or bad abut it, maybe a few new ideeas to inspire me, nah, i’m asking too much already;

And why you all pretend that there is no such thing as a male nature? Maybe indeed it is not; Most probably it is; And let’s not forget, for all the problems of today women have but about half of the problem, our own instincts to apotheosize women work well for the common good but not that well for the individual good, but who knows, maybe it’s pointless to understand our own nature, and ironically, even in gmtow it is talked more about women than men, tough nowadays i see little talk about either, which is not that bad, i mean in half of decade mgtow knows more abour women than what psychologists know with alot more than 150 years of research, but i would like to see things aboutmale nature from sources taht aren’t under the gynocentric influences

I only tackled with the alpha/beta concepts since i discovered mgtow, and i thought i understood them, maybe not, maybe i’m a beta, i’m obviously not an alpha, but i’m a loner for sure, and if the thing with the female nature inside me was true we could have an measurement way to determine what is alpha and what is beta, not as a binary value, but rather a value on a spectrum, like a percentage, and set that alpha and beta aren’t a black and white ting

And what’s the problem with the “negative labels” as you call it, i try to speak honestly, and i can’t hide my words in a way that it’s not offensive, unless i go to a social justice course on “assertiveness” whatever they mean with that…

And about those theoretical apologies, i never cared about apologies, the best apology is to forget about these petty accusations and be in good standings at the end of the day, because i understand your doubts, and you’re forgiven if you would ever care about my forgiveness

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

@ Alexadrian: With your now evident second thoughts about the topic you came up with, I think you are well on a good way…

You might understand though that especially now that the whole mgtow phenomen meanwhile is taking flight the way it currently does, there’s also quite an influx of trollups showing up on this forum trying their in part snakey level best to wreck havoc in here, be they emasculated blue pill men or princess complexed women (which are generally easier to spot), we now all have got our guards up a bit higher than say about a year or even longer ago. But by keeping your “cool” somewhat now (my second expression of you) you surely have cut yourself some slack I guess.

It certainly can be a bit tricky to fit right into a new group, if you don’t know some of the basic unwritten common sense-like rules, even more so if you had signed up a longer time ago and maybe haven’t been browsing enough in here lately, be it due to lack of time or whatever else. So since it seems like I and a few others misunderstood you, do accept a small apology from my end. Mind you, it really was fun to baffle you the way we did, so in that weird sense, thanks for the exercise/drill. One day you might well learn enough for doing it yourself, too. Time will tell.

For the time being: Be good and all the best for an appropriate compatible introduction of yourself. If you think you can do that, then you probably can …

PS.: Scrap the bs concept about “alpha” “beta” and all that other timid PUA stuff, this is mgtow.

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[experiencedParticipant]

Ned Trent wrote:

@ Alexadrian: With your now evident second thoughts about the topic you came up with, I think you are well on a good way…

You might understand though that especially now that the whole mgtow phenomen meanwhile is taking flight the way it currently does, there’s also quite an influx of trollups showing up on this forum trying their in part snakey level best to wreck havoc in here, be they emasculated blue pill men or princess complexed women (which are generally easier to spot), we now all have got our guards up a bit higher than say about a year or even longer ago. But by keeping your “cool” somewhat now (my second expression of you) you surely have cut yourself some slack I guess.

It certainly can be a bit tricky to fit right into a new group, if you don’t know some of the basic unwritten common sense-like rules, even more so if you had signed up a longer time ago and maybe haven’t been browsing enough in here lately, be it due to lack of time or whatever else. So since it seems like I and a few others misunderstood you, do accept a small apology from my end. Mind you, it really was fun to baffle you the way we did, so in that weird sense, thanks for the exercise/drill. One day you might well learn enough for doing it yourself, too. Time will tell.

For the time being: Be good and all the best for an appropriate compatible introduction of yourself. If you think you can do that, then you probably can …

PS.: Scrap the bs concept about “alpha” “beta” and all that other timid PUA stuff, this is mgtow.

Well said Ned!

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[narwhalParticipant]

The whole idea of a ‘male nature’ and a ‘female nature’ is a man-made concept created just to help us classify things. Being man-made, it’s highly subjective and influenced by feminism.

Take singing for example. As a general rule, singing is considered a feminine thing, right? What do you think of the boys that were in the high school choir? What do you think of them men who sing in a barber shop quartet? What do you think of most popular make singers? Is it a make or female characteristic. Who the hell cares, if it makes you happy, do it.

But that’s all over the place. Teaching is feminine, right? Who says? Cooking? Child care is feminine…whatever. The fact is, it’s in man’s nature to do EVERYTHING. We are not limited. Even when it comes to failing, being cowardly or whatever.

If you think about it, anything about a man that is considered feminine is only done so because it’s something women don’t like about a particular man. Men shouldn’t sing…unless you’re Mick Jagger.
The label is given to shame. They want men to strive to meet their approval. They are also afraid when a man does something well that women are supposed to be good at. They are exposed.

If there is any male nature or female nature, it’s that men want to do things well, while women are satisfied with pretending they do it well. If a man cooks a crappy meal, he will appreciate negative criticism and attempt to do better next time, or decide it’s not for him. If a woman cooks a crappy meal, she wants you to tell her how wonderful it is and how great she is for cooking it. If you tell her the truth, she will give you hell for it.

So yea, stop classify things as male or female behavior. That’s exactly the way feminists want you to think.

Ok. Then do it.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Alexadrian wrote:

Okay, if you need an intro i’ll do it a bit later if i don’t get removed by then

You’re not getting removed.

experienced wrote:

Well said Ned!

Agreed. +1

narwhal wrote:

Take singing for example. As a general rule, singing is considered a feminine thing, right? What do you think of the boys that were in the high school choir? What do you think of them men who sing in a barber shop quartet? What do you think of most popular make singers? Is it a make or female characteristic. Who the hell cares, if it makes you happy, do it.

Great point and there you go.

I used to get picked on as a kid in public school because I went to piano practice instead of hockey. I took violin and dance lessons too.

narwhal wrote:

Teaching is feminine, right? Who says?

Nobody. I was teacher for 5 years coaching kids 6-18. Were MOST of the teachers women? Yes. But guess who the kids liked more? and I was HARD on them.

narwhal wrote:

Cooking?

Ronald MacDonald is 10X better than Wendy’s.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[RedpillPrimateParticipant 1026]

I don’t know if I’m the only one getting the feeling that this thread smells like vagina, a very nasty smelly vagina.

I get the same feeling. Why the f~~~ would you make an account here and have this question as your first thread?

Something definitely smells fishy…

[RennieParticipant]

Keymaster wrote:

Ronald MacDonald is 10X better than Wendy’s.

Costs considerably less too.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

wat? Wendy’s is the only fast food that’s half way decent. But I’m assuming you’re being ironic.

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[RedpillPrimateParticipant 1026]

Russky wrote:

wat? Wendy’s is the only fast food that’s half way decent. But I’m assuming you’re being ironic.

The only thing I like from Wendy’s is their chicken sandwiches and chicken nuggets. I hate everything from Mcdonald’s.

I avoid’em both if I can help it at all.

[Anonymous 42]

Wendy’s

Mc Donald’s

Burger King

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

If you guys don’t see a taste and ingredient difference between Wendy’s McDs and Burger King – I don’t know what to say. You might as well eat ramen noodles until you die because you couldn’t tell a difference between foie-gras and ramen if you had a gun to your head.

Wendy’s where I live is very good compared to other joints. They have awesome chili made from scratch daily, fresh-squeezed lemonade, burgers are awesome for the price and salads are the bomb. F~~~ you guys!

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[Anonymous 42]

Wendy’s

Mc Donald’s

Burger King

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

whatever. People who poo-poo wendy’s probably never ate there in last five years. They really upped their game
go visit, order some chili with cheese and onions, salad and a lemonade – you’d be blown away.

I do however, wholeheartedly agree that the rest of fast food places are complete s~~~.

I had due to work nature eat lunch on the road for years, and I’ve tried it all. In the end I became very selective of food I eat, so the only two places I would ever go would be either Wendy’s or Jersey Mike’s

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[AlexadrianParticipant 13]

Idk about the singing thingy, women have nice voices and sing all the notes perfectly and all of that, but i always felt that when a men sings lyrics those lyrics felt like they had meaning while when women sing i feel that they just throw some lyrics just so it sounds nice to the ear, plus male voices always felt more spiritual, shoutout to byzantine music, medieval catholic music, and a honorable mention to the muslim music, you gotta admit that them bastards have and interesting material and artistic culture

Here the teachers have a chart from the ministry of education, which dictates what subjects to teach and in which date, probably would’ve been much harder if they had to prepare their own schedule like good ole ancient philosophers, ow and btw, guess what, no ancient women philosophers, who would’ve thought…

And i think that we should classify things so we can have clear subjects and scopes for discussions, afterall we are men, we organize the natural chaos into an artificial man made order, we create structures to make our lives easier

And about restaurants and fast foods, i think that any mgtow should learn to cook, and it’s not the fact that bought foods are more expensive, or that you gotta tip the staff or you’ll eat chef’s spit, the reason why anybody should know how to cook it’s self sufficiency

And for those who keep saying that they smell vagina do a god damn shower after f~~~ing bitchez

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

This behavior is female nature and is related to hypergamy

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

As well as this behavior is female nature and is related to hypergamy in a different way

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

As is this

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/nov/11/first-world-war-white-feather-cowardice

Feminists like to say the personal is political but to women what is attractive to them or useful at the moment is is “good” and what is not is garbage.

This too is an aspect in the spectrum of hypergamy.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[experiencedParticipant]

Alexadrian wrote:

Okay, if you need an intro i’ll do it a bit later

Okay, if you need a response, i’ll do it a bit later, after you do your intro.

Intros do not take nearly as much time and energy as what you spent in the Canterbury Tales document immediately following the top quote here.(50 lines total in two clumps)

Oh wait, I’m sorry, we are supposed to tell you exactly why your stuff is highly doubtable and tip off all your others? No, not a chance. Post an intro and hopefully I’m wrong, but right now that’s doubtful.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

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