Do I care?

[Anonymous 1]

So, sometime ago CrazyCanuck made a post and a comment regarding mgtows that don’t care about other men. Although I did my response to his arguments on his post, his “accusations” made me think about this. Do I care about other men?

The short answer is: depends.

I will not lie, and say that I care about all men. I don’t. And the reason is pretty simple: I am tired wasting time and energy on people that don’t want to help themselves. Unfortunately, it is not only women that are delusional and denying reality. A lot of men are too. So, I have to ask myself, why bother? Why waste the limited time I have on this earth with people that refuse to see reality? The answer is: I don’t.

Just to give you guys an idea. Tradcons, and the so called “skeptics” started their attack on Mgtow. Armored Skeptic and ShoeonHead (the later was even recomended by some on this site) started to paint Mgtows as the same as the feminists. Computing Forever is using the same old NAWALT arguments, all of them are repeating the same old criticisms that we debunked over and over again. One have to wonder: when is enough, enough?

So no, I don’t care about all men. Men that keep repeating the same old, stupid, FALSE arguments, despite reality SPITING on their faces. Men that don’t see themselves as anything else as meat automatons. Men that REFUSE to held women the SAME ACCOUNTABILITY they would held a MAN. As far as I am concerned, they are the same lot as the feminists. Different package, same s~~~.

And once again, we have the revival of the “moderate” Mgtow, and the “Mgtow movement”. Failed Mra’s that are trying to rebrand their gynocentric failed movement in order to compete with feminism. So, for the record, if Mgtow is a MOVEMENT, I am f~~~ing OUT. I use the label as an INDEPENDET MAN to exchange ideas with OTHER INDEPENDENT MEN. Give the “extremists”, at least they are more honest about their own thiniking.

In the end, I kind of predicted that. I remember, a long time ago, when people were putting videos of Thundef00t here, that I mentioned that the “Skeptics” would turn against MGTOWs in a blink of an eye. That they would use the very tactics that they criticize FEMINISM for (intellectual dishonesty, cherry picking, reality denial). Said and done.

So to these men, I say: f~~~ them. F~~~ them all. May the women they are so willing to “protect” stab them in their f~~~ing backs. I am out of mercy for these guys.

Let them burn along with the women.

I do care, in fact, if I were to be honest, I care for men and women, but I only care for those that care enough about themselves to think before acting and that have the MINIMAL of compassion for others. Tradcons, blue pill men (“skeptics included”), women have none of these things. So all of them can rot in hell for all I care.

Another little rant.

Cheers.

[Anonymous 1]

And since I am writing this post, I will do a follow up.
I am not sure if I should make another post, but since the subject is related and I have not much time to keep coming to this website (I talk the talk, I am trying to walk the walt:D) I will try to do all in one go.

So, taking in consideration what I just said: the fact that as Mgtow becomes more aparent, the so called anti-feminists, “skeptics”, tradcons, “moderate” Mgtows (the NAWALT kind) and MRA’s will come full force AGAINST us, what do I think will be the consequence? Mgtow will grow even further, and will be even more “extreme”.

Think about it: I will not say the majority, but a large part of young men that are “indecise” will see both sides and will, most likely, side against Mgtow. They will be DESPERATE to make things right, and will bite line, hook and sinker the idea that NAWALT. I know that because I once thought about. What made me not go that path? I didn’t took the words of ANYBODY for granted (Mgtows or anti-Mgtows), I used my own eyes, and experiences. I heard with my own ears the NAWALTS double standards, and witness the “compassion” MRA’s and other “pro-male” groups have for men that are suffering and are confused and angry. However, and I don’t say this to brag, I am part of the exception, not the rule. And, as I said, the majority of young men will want to “believe” (Listen and Believe) on the fables of the “reasonable ones”.

And what will be the consequence of that? Another wave of deeply desillusioned men, this time, betrayed not only by the “women that are not like that”, but by the “supposedly” MODERATE MEN. Do you think this will end well? I don’t.

In the end, these men will distance themselves EVEN MORE from the “moderates”. And all this “campaing” these f~~~ers are doing will backfire… BADLY. (Pro tip: I hope your server are ready Keymaster, because WINTER is coming.)

Besides, even if they change the marriage laws, do men really need DIVORCE to realize that being by yourself is better than be binded to someone that HATES YOU? Look at the Japanese men! I mean, I may be wrong, but their divorce rate are not as high as in the Western world. Women are still shamed for divorcing, and yet, MEN THERE LEFT IN DROVES.

So here is my next prediction: pressure against Mgtow will only be worse in short term, and will come from our previous “allies”. And this will only backfire BADLY on the long term. Because in the end, all the “criticism” they are making are lip service. The TRUTH is still the same, women, and I mean ALL women, are still like that, they will be using the SAME TACTICS feminists use (oh, the irony) and just like the feminists, no ammount of WISHFUL THINKING will change reality. Actions would, but they are too busy criticizing us on youtube to do anything.

Anyway, I have to go.

Take care brothers. And be ready for the shamming.

Cheers.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Anonymous wrote:

Mgtow will grow even further, and will be even more “extreme”.

MGTOW will definitely grow, but I can’t see it getting more “extreme”. Once you’re done with women, you’re done with women. Even if you’re “double secret” done with women, you’re still just done with women.

[Spank The MisandristsParticipant 2308]

Unlike women, men don’t have own group preference, we don’t care about other men, to us other men are competitors, that’s how our brains have been programmed through out evolution.

That been said, I do love helping people, however if there is a reason I don’t help other men, then this is it.

Anonymous wrote:

I am tired wasting time and energy on people that don’t want to help themselves. Unfortunately, it is not only women that are delusional and denying reality. A lot of men are too.

I hate helping people whom are fully capable of doing what they are asking help for. It’s pure laziness, and I have to admit there are a LOT of lazy people out there. So yes, I don’t care about them, even if they are MGTOWs. Also I don’t help people whom don’t deserve to be helped, there are people out there whom you can’t help and the best way to help them is to let them face their own f~~~ups, otherwise they will never learn.

However since I have gone my own way and seen the way men have been treated through out the years, I will give men more chances than women. One chance per life time per woman is and has always been the way I treat women. For men a second chance might be granted, because most men understand logic. For my brothers, a maximum of 3 chances are granted, because they are my brothers.

[Spank The MisandristsParticipant 2308]

Anonymous wrote:

Take care brothers. And be ready for the shamming.

Each time they attack us, they get weaker and we get stronger. So if they want to waste their energy on shaming a group of men that can’t be shamed, then be my guest, like we even give a f~~~. We will be laughing our asses off.

[Anonymous 25]

I see this as an issue that has two levels. 1) Individual men; and 2) Men as a group collectively.

I don’t care about every individual man. White knights I couldn’t care less about.

But I will do stuff that benefits men as a group. I have formed an in group bias and will deliberately favour men over women.

For example, I will only give money to charities that support solely men. I will only vote for policies that promote solely men. I will only choose to be around women that achieve tangible results that help men. If I saw a woman out in the street being violent or verbally abusive to a man I would record it on my phone and side with the man. The list can go on an on, but there’s plenty of ways to do this. It will help mgtow grow as well.

That’s purely selfish but also altruistic towards other men as it is the only strategy men can choose that helps themselves.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

I see this as an issue that has two levels. 1) Individual men; and 2) Men as a group collectively.

I don’t care about every individual man. White knights I couldn’t care less about.

But I will do stuff that benefits men as a group. I have formed an in group bias and will deliberately favour men over women.

For example, I will only give money to charities that support solely men. I will only vote for policies that promote solely men. I will only choose to be around women that achieve tangible results that help men. If I saw a woman out in the street being violent or verbally abusive to a man I would record it on my phone and side with the man. The list can go on an on, but there’s plenty of ways to do this. It will help mgtow grow as well.

That’s purely selfish but also altruistic towards other men as it is the only strategy men can choose that helps themselves.

Exactly what I do.

I will reach out to a brother in real distress. I always will … you can tell by a man eyes … his words … it’s not hidable.

I also operate in the background on some mens issues regarding suicide, mental health etc.

I offer my technical services for free….. but it MUST be in favour of men and boys.

There will come several waves of pressure on mgtow … but .. well … when you don’t give a fk .. what’s just another wave. You just have to walk your path with more determination … like against a strong wind.

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

Sorry dude you’re wrong. I never said all men. i was talking

men in the f~~~’ing community!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you can’t get that with the topic of the thread you are truly stupid.

Did you even read the first post? Some of you f~~~heads attacked Tim Patten. Then some of you men claimed you didn’t care about anyone else. Do not misrepresent what I have said.
You’re using what the anti mgtow men are doing.
God you’re so weak you have to misrepresent what I have said. It’s perfectly clear you were raised by a single mother. No where did I say you had to help mangias . LOL
If you’re going to criticize men at least do it with integrity!
Also look the word duty and you will see what I mean.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

Btw I wasn’t upset that mgtow was being attacked I was upset at the mgtow who attacked another mgtow when they did less than person. You don’t get it because you’re not thinking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wasn’t pleased when messenger rising apparently had some mgtow doxxed. It wasn’t cool for him.
You are truly a idiot I hope there’s less men like you because you don’t know what you are talking about.

Why the f~~~ would I would want to help a white knight? Dude you have many white kniights before this site open let alone before MGTOW was even a concept. Back in the 90’s I deal with s~~~ loads of white knights. MGTOW is against white knights. First you say I’m upset because mgtow is getting attacked but they you think I am for helping these all men including white knights? Your logic has failed.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[InfernalShadowParticipant 377]

As a whole, I’m just indifferent to most if not all of society. Do I care about MGTOWs? Most, yes. But, it’s hard to feel sympathetic to those on Youtube such as Turd Flinging Monkey for instance. While I agree with a lot of his videos, he did suggest he was a MGTOW because he wanted to change society. I don’t want to change society. I just want to be far away from it as possible.

As for people like Thunderf00t/AmazingAtheist, I used to watch their videos a lot. But, it’s getting harder for me to because those types, such as Sargon, because, they’re still blue pill or at least to my understanding they are. I’m getting sick of the whole Youtube to thing to point it makes me want to avoid it altogether.

I’m also with you on the whole NAWALT thing. Even in my own family, the women can be nasty f~~~s a lot or most of the time towards men. The only reason I do stay in contact with them is because it’ll cause more drama in my life if I avoid them. I stick with my mom mainly because she’s old and she occasionally needs help. If she were healthier, I’d probably avoid even talking to her.

Regarding white knights, I used to want to help them, but I don’t anymore because the last debate where I brought up false rape/domestic accusations, they just said “I was angry, you need to get laid bro and let out all that pent up anger.” That just p~~~ed me off to no end. I’m done helping blue pill men. Unless they pay me for my services, I’m never helping them again.

Unless it’s other men who post on this website, I barely if at all interact with anyone outside of work and online gaming.

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

Exactly what I do.

I will reach out to a brother in real distress. I always will … you can tell by a man eyes … his words … it’s not hidable.

I also operate in the background on some mens issues regarding suicide, mental health etc.

I offer my technical services for free….. but it MUST be in favour of men and boys.

There will come several waves of pressure on mgtow … but .. well … when you don’t give a fk .. what’s just another wave. You just have to walk your path with more determination … like against a strong wind.

It’s not like we can tell which men are mgtow or not. We don’t have any secret code or attire. Sure I wouldn’t help a mangina who attacked me but in the most part I will because in my country 70% of men aren’t marrying women. Let’s not forge the rape in Germany. I have heard of one man so far helping women from the rape.

Quite a few men will go back to women and want to marry them or live with them. Listen to tom keykis stream and you will hear men that thought they knew better. I have been going my own way for 30 years this summer, I highly doubt I would go back to a woman.

What if you’re in a situation like a few Muslim men decided to attack you. I bet you would want help from other men . What if these guys said to themselves f~~~ that guy I don’t know if he’s MGTOW he’s probably a mangina.

Btw the things that Skeptic Armour and computing have said in their videos isn’t anything new. It’s the same bulls~~~ which has been debunked. I wouldn’t even get upset by that because it’s been done to death. Let’s not forget the BBC and we have already owned them.

It’s perfectly clear the only some men on here will care about about MGTOW being high jacked is when these men come here. If there’s too many of them it will take a long time to ban them. You’re only thinking short term. If that day comes I will tell you I told you so.

Btw I wasn’t going to tell anyone however I asked for a life time account on this site. This is how committed I am to this site. I would have easily paid $800 for a life time account. This isn’t to brag but that’s how committed I am. Keymaster also told me the development team on here around 18 hours a day, firs they work for their clients than on their free time they work on this site. They work up to 36 hours straight! Sure they want to make money but I don’t see too many people working that hard.

Men do care about other men! Look at this video it has been posted in the past.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[Anonymous 1]

@CrazyCanuck:
Ok dude, this will be my last reply to you, since I really don’t have the time, or the patient, do deal with your kind anymore.

The mention of your post was just to estabilish a background. The rest of the thread was a extrapolation sparked by our previous discussion. Contrary to your beliefs, I have a functioning brain that works INDEPENDENTLY of your will, and capable of doing EXTRAPOLATION and other lines of thought on its own. This thread was about something I THOUGHT and decided to share. Can I do that? Am I allowed to think BY MYSELF? Or independent thinking makes me look like a woman too?

My response to your original post was written on your original thread. Read the previous paragraph, and go police somebody’s else thoughts, you asshole.

In fact, my point on your previous post, the one I was actually was refering to you, was pointing out exacly what is happeing now: other people, not just you, are entitled to THEIR F~~~ING OPINIONS, either if you AGREE with them or NOT. And so AM I.

Im done with you, go try to impose your “moral codes” and “real man” expectations on someone else.

And by the way:

From the Dictionary:
du·ty
ˈd(y)o͞odē/
noun
noun: duty; plural noun: duties

1.
a moral or legal obligation; a responsibility.
“it’s my duty to uphold the law”
synonyms:responsibility, obligation, commitment; More
allegiance, loyalty, faithfulness, fidelity, homage
“she was free of any duty”
(of a visit or other undertaking) done from a sense of moral obligation rather than for pleasure.
modifier noun: duty
“a fifteen-minute duty visit”
2.
a task or action that someone is required to perform.
“the queen’s official duties”

And as I said before, I will re-iterate: men don’t have any DUTY to help ANYONE, just because PENIS. SELF-PRESERVATION is nothing to be ashamed of. And if you do risk your life, you do KNOWING that there might not be any RECOGNITION for your sacrifice. Men are FREE to do with their lives what they WILL. Despite what you might think.

I am done.

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