Disposable Heroes

[Big Viking Chef BVCParticipant 1286]

“How many people have given their own lives to save the lives of others?  Soldiers, police officers, fire fighters,

emergency service workers, medics – they are all heroes who died in the line of duty.  How many of these heroes were

men?  How many were women?  It is clear to me which is the heroic gender.  Shame on those who seek to convince others

to HATE their heroes.  Truly, they must be the real face of EVIL.” — Herodotus Diathesimo

 

I don’t know who this guy is.  I like his name, and I assume it is an alias.  Diathesimo is greek for disposable.

 

This all leads me to the idea that true equality can not be achieved between the genders, as too many of the male

gender have already given up their lives to save others (including a lot of women).

 

Applied to the current war between Feminists and their own obsolescence, the EVIL must be the radical Feminists themselves.

 

Have I missed the mark somehow?  Please post your own thoughts.  There are no wrong answers in this realm.

Swallow this RED PILL ===> Men will lay down their lives for their brothers, their women and their children. This makes Men useful as slaves. Women will lay down their lives for ONLY their children. To expect more from women is just a FANTASY created by society and reinforced by the unconditional love that we experienced from our Mothers. The key to freedom is the understanding that the woman you meet is not going to fantastically love you like your Mother did. If you buy into the fantasy, then she is your new master. If you do not buy into the fantasy, then she is nothing, and you retain your freedom.

[VileNordParticipant 766]

I take no issue with the idea of men being the more disposable of the sexes. Since the dawn of mankind, a balance of sorts has played out wherein men make the world a better place for everyone and women bring forth and raise the next generation to do the same. It is only recently that the quality of life has become so aristocratic that women have convinced themselves that they no longer wish to fulfill their ancient roles. They have lied so often that the reality of gender roles, and their importance in the continued prosperity of society, is obscured behind a veil of emotionally charged nonsense.

This is our way of continuing to practice equality:
Women fulfilling their roles = Men fulfilling their roles.
Women not fulfilling their roles = Men not fulfilling their roles.

That is the EVIL of feminism today. The only way to make women understand how ridiculous an idea it is to abandon their societal roles is to deny them the privilege of benefiting from ours. I don’t want to see women working dangerous jobs or being killed on the battlefield, that is a role of men. I am simply fed-up with the lack of respect that women have for all that we continue to do for them, so I’ve decided to do everything for me and my brothers instead.

Lust for comfort suffocates the soul

[RoyDalParticipant]

I agree with Nord. I was once perfectly willing to fill the traditional male role in society. Doing dangerous or unpleasant jobs that women don’t like? I have had one or two of those. Even though I fear marriage and have since childhood, I was willing to take the leap. Lucky for me, I wised up before I got hitched, and I survived my high risk flings with no permanent injury.

My problem is women want to punish me for it. They want us to take all the risks, and they withhold any reward. That I will not accept.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Big Viking Chef BVCParticipant 1286]

Great input.  I agree.  Lack of respect.  All of the risks with no reward.  These EVILS are coming out of the Feminist movement intentionally.  They are not just the unintentional symptoms of change.

In other words:  is it necessary for Feminists to sour the world against men in order to achieve their goals?  Is the hate necessary?  Will the use of polarizing hate bring about the end of Feminism or the end of our society (like the fall of the Roman Empire?)

Demonization of the male role in our society is already generating laws that allow the state to feminize our male children in schools and enslave our men financially and sexually.  Do feminists even understand the damage that they are causing with their polarizing hate?

 

 

 

 

Swallow this RED PILL ===> Men will lay down their lives for their brothers, their women and their children. This makes Men useful as slaves. Women will lay down their lives for ONLY their children. To expect more from women is just a FANTASY created by society and reinforced by the unconditional love that we experienced from our Mothers. The key to freedom is the understanding that the woman you meet is not going to fantastically love you like your Mother did. If you buy into the fantasy, then she is your new master. If you do not buy into the fantasy, then she is nothing, and you retain your freedom.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Hey Viking. Welcome to MGTOW.

Is it necessary for Feminists to sour the world against men in order to achieve their goals?

That’s how females succeed (in their minds and spirit). By bringing a man down. Not by improving or lifting themselves up or creating newer and better standards which lift us all to unimaginable new heights… but by LOWERING existing standards so that they may call themselves “equal”.

Thats’ how you get skewed perceptions and campaigns like “fat women are beautiful” and they still want alimony for sucking 50 dicks in their own marriage. So yes it IS necessary because THEY CANT SUCCEED ANY OTHER WAY.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[MjolnirParticipant 23]

People have allready written good replies. I listened to a psychologist talking about equality and he mentioned that it is inhumane (because of biology) trying to force a 50/50 society which is why it is my opinion it is not important 50% of the dead heroes are women, the important part is how the genders are regarded. If both genders are valued for their contributions then it is well in society, if one gender is denigrated even when performing their role, it leads to conflicts. Nord said interesting things about the gender roles. The very basis of an unequal society is where one gender ignore their gender roles and the others are forced to continue in their roles. Personally I would not have an issue with doing the dangerous stuff as long as I am rewarded by society for it and women also contribute with their role in the same way. Fair is fair then.

To be honest though, I don’t think feminists are understanding what they are doing. The whole feminist movement is a big defense mechanism of psychologically unhealthy women.

 

[John DoeParticipant 743]

I would have to agree with how vilenord put it.

At the end of the day we are seeing a society die because it assumed unnatural roles.  Most of these roles were inverted due to mans’ pride and love of pleasure.   We got caught up with all the shiny stuff we made and basically declared ourselves gods.  We are human beings, nothing more nothing less.

Evil is a deficiency of good.  It cannot exist on its own.  It is good for something to act according to its nature.  When something does not act fully to its nature it ceases to fully exist.  This leads to its death, literally and metaphorically.  We see this in the culture around us.  Men not being true men, women not being true women.  All living empty, almost pointless lives because they do not live fully.

Women can be heroes in a different sense.  They are irreplaceable in a family unit and nothing can replace their role in a household.  At the end of the day giving one everything one has is still giving everything one has.  Self sacrifice is self sacrifice.  When women bash heroes they are bashing themselves also because they also have self sacrificial “obligations”.

Feminism is about destroying the sexes, because if you destroy the sexes you destroy the individual.  It is about creating a neo-feudal slave state pure and simple.  Destroy heroism of any sort and you have that makings of a slave.  Heroes are not slaves by their very nature.

Feminism is about power and control, it has almost nothing to do with an actual sex act.

I used to raise pigs with my dad.  In order to maintain control over 10-20 pigs, we would castrate the males.  Hopefully that gets my point across.

[Big Viking Chef BVCParticipant 1286]

Yes, Hammer, I have to agree that the absence of fairness and of being valued for your contribution goes to the heart of the gripe for me, and probably many men.

I also have to concede that it is true that women can be, and many are, heroes in their own way.

I don’t know what the Feminist Movement’s endgame is, but I can tell you that it is NOT the true gender equality that their propaganda suggests – no matter how many times they repeatedly scream it at us.  That is the commercial, not the reality.

Maybe it is the Power and Control – feudal slave state – that John Doe suggests.  That’s an interesting idea that I had not considered yet.  If that is the case, I wonder who is the Mastermind?  I don’t mean to belittle the idea, because it’s a good point that made me think, but the image of Planet of the Apes just flashed through my mind – only with more bikinis and less fur.  Would make a great “B” movie, and the thought made me chuckle.  As men, we could all sit around and not speak to our women captors, and they would wrongly assume that we were not intelligent enough to communicate, all the while we are planning our coup…we only need a leader…LOL

Back to reality.  Thank you for the Welcome Keymaster.  You are right, by the way, about lowering the bar so that they can succeed.  I am just not sure what they are truly trying to succeed at.  They probably don’t even know themselves.

I like to sit around with my friends cooking, eating, drinking, and learning from each other in any of our kitchens on any given night.  These men are real magicians in the kitchen, and the sharing of ideas is a source of happiness and pride for me.  This forum is currently giving me a taste of that same sweet cuisine.  I thank you all, and I am learning.

BVC

 

 

 

 

 

 

Swallow this RED PILL ===> Men will lay down their lives for their brothers, their women and their children. This makes Men useful as slaves. Women will lay down their lives for ONLY their children. To expect more from women is just a FANTASY created by society and reinforced by the unconditional love that we experienced from our Mothers. The key to freedom is the understanding that the woman you meet is not going to fantastically love you like your Mother did. If you buy into the fantasy, then she is your new master. If you do not buy into the fantasy, then she is nothing, and you retain your freedom.

[John DoeParticipant 743]

 ” If that is the case, I wonder who is the Mastermind?”

Why does their have to be a mastermind?  I was saying this on another thread, but all religion and philosophy is about the delegation of power.  MGTOW is about the delegation of power.  That is not a good or bad thing. It is how that power is delegated to the individual and the group that defines whether it is good or evil.  With that being said.  Feminism delegates power to the rich and politically powerful.  It takes it away from the common man.  The rich have their money.  The common man has his brothers and family.  Without his brother or family, the common man loses his power and is easier to subjugate.  Feminism destroys this bond between the common people making it a free for all arena while the rich are tag teaming it.

Remember, due to industry, the rich have no real power except in consumerism.  Kings, lost their value when industry came into existence.  With industry came power to the individual.  That is why it is important that they change our beliefs and views if they want to maintain and gain power.  If a neo-feudal slave state is to exist then a new belief system must be created.  Feminism helps change this belief system by changing what men and women value.

[Big Viking Chef BVCParticipant 1286]

I suppose that Mastermind was not the right word, but from what you said I would say the rich stand to gain most from the belief system change that you suggest.  Very interesting.  I am going to simmer on that one for a while.

BVC

 

Swallow this RED PILL ===> Men will lay down their lives for their brothers, their women and their children. This makes Men useful as slaves. Women will lay down their lives for ONLY their children. To expect more from women is just a FANTASY created by society and reinforced by the unconditional love that we experienced from our Mothers. The key to freedom is the understanding that the woman you meet is not going to fantastically love you like your Mother did. If you buy into the fantasy, then she is your new master. If you do not buy into the fantasy, then she is nothing, and you retain your freedom.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

I don’t want to see women working dangerous jobs or being killed on the battlefield, that is a role of men. I am simply fed-up with the lack of respect that women have for all that we continue to do for them, so I’ve decided to do everything for me and my brothers instead.

This is the single best and most eloquently stated argument against modern feminism that I have ever read. Screen captured and saved for future reference. Thank you.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

I watched this documentary on the income tax in the USA.  It has a segment that tells who the masterminds behind feminism are. here is the segment and the documentary.    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCpjmvaIgNA

 

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

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