Discussing what MGTOW is.

[Tiga KParticipant 1693]

I thought I would take a stab at defining what MGTOW is, so here I go:

If a man is going his own way, that means he is not going the normal way of society. I understand society’s way to be like this:

date/sex —> LTR/girlfriend –> marriage

The order may vary, but I think this is a good summary of what it is. The end goal is always marriage. A MGHOW at some point decides that this is not the way for him to go. Where a MGTOW diverts from this and why he does so are irrelevant. I don’t consider married men to be MGTOW. They are still going society’s way all the way to the end. They may have choosen it, maybe they did find the NAWALT unicorn, but that doesn’t change the fact that they are still going the way of society. Until they divorce and give up on that way, they arn’t MGTOW. Some guys on the forum don’t think that Christians can be mgtow, but I disagree. As long as they have diverted from society’s way, they have become mgtow.

Because of the previously mentioned diversity in why/how a person can become MGTOW, there is no way this could become considered a movement. This isn’t an organized strike against marriage with a purpose. If all the laws that oppress men and all the hate society puts on them were to disappear, I think I and other guys would still be MGTOW. I don’t get involved with women because I’d rather work on my hobbies. I know some of you feel the same way. Others of you may want to get married, but don’t because you don’t want to lose half your stuff and never see your kids again. The point is that there is no cause that we are united against. We are just a group of guys that have something in common.

What do you think? Agree, disagree, don’t give a damn?

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Tiga:

I do agree that there is no one cause that got us all here. We have one thing in common and that is that we are Going our Own Way. And there are 10,000 different reasons why we are here. Many of them are similar, but none exactly the same. The fact that 10,000 different roads lead to the same place should speak volumes. Then, when you get here, you are welcomed and find friendship.

If someone is really hell bent on stopping it, they are going to have to close down 10,000 roads. Good luck with that!

Order the good wine

[UntamedParticipant]

Tiga K wrote:

I thought I would take a stab at defining what MGTOW is, so here I go:
If a man is going his own way, that means he is not going the normal way of society. I understand society’s way to be like this:
date/sex —> LTR/girlfriend –> marriage
The order may vary, but I think this is a good summary of what it is. The end goal is always marriage. A MGHOW at some point decides that this is not the way for him to go. Where a MGTOW diverts from this and why he does so are irrelevant. I don’t consider married men to be MGTOW. They are still going society’s way all the way to the end. They may have choosen it, maybe they did find the NAWALT unicorn, but that doesn’t change the fact that they are still going the way of society. Until they divorce and give up on that way, they arn’t MGTOW. Some guys on the forum don’t think that Christians can be mgtow, but I disagree. As long as they have diverted from society’s way, they have become mgtow.
Because of the previously mentioned diversity in why/how a person can become MGTOW, there is no way this could become considered a movement. This isn’t an organized strike against marriage with a purpose. If all the laws that oppress men and all the hate society puts on them were to disappear, I think I and other guys would still be MGTOW. I don’t get involved with women because I’d rather work on my hobbies. I know some of you feel the same way. Others of you may want to get married, but don’t because you don’t want to lose half your stuff and never see your kids again. The point is that there is no cause that we are united against. We are just a group of guys that have something in common.
What do you think? Agree, disagree, don’t give a damn?

That’s nicely stated.
Of course each man going his own way is going to define his way and make it… well, his own. I do agree that a married man isn’t going his own way. He can’t be or he’ll soon be divorced.
I also disagree with the premise that a Christian can’t go mgtow. I’m a Christian, surely not your typical Bible thumper as I believe that any person is intelligent enough to deduce that a Creator was necessary for the first atom to appear so I prefer to take the “see I told you so” attitude than arguing until I’m blue in the face but I do follow Jesus’ precepts and do recognise who my Creator and Master is and been mgtow for a long time now.
People have been so pushed to think in terms of “community” “movement” and “organization” by the Thought-Police that they now relate anything involving more than ten people as a movement and if those people happen to disagree with today’s f~~~ed up societal norms they’re branded some kind of atrocious label.
The more one tries to define mgtow and the more incorect one is. MGTOW is everyone in here and no one out there. We’re like the wind, indefinable, unregulated, a breath of fresh air from the stinking muddy soup of a society in decline, unchained, unclaimed and NO f~~~s given.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[stopmockingmanParticipant 441]

Defining MGTOW.
Very nice and informative.
In the end, it does not matter, I am a non practicing Christian, who reads the Bible, some days.
I use it to simplify, parable, and try to inject “wisdom”.
Does it work, I have no clue. It is a style of writing, a character I play, the only one that interest me for the time being.

I think that are many married men here, looking for answers- does that mean they will divorce knowing the potential price?
No, they may not, they may want to hang on to things the way they are. The house, the wife, the kids, the pension, you cannot blame them at all, these men. Not one bit.

Are they Mgtow? Well, no, we are, we have made a move, or women have made it for us, we have divorced, etc………
The question is are these men future Mgtow?

I believe in time, they may well be.
The club may get bigger.

And by definition, Mgtow is a hodge podge of disheveled men,
with no recourse in society, in the courts of law, and with women.

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

MGTOW to me is rejecting societal definitions of what being a man is. Those definitions are all intended to dictate the adopting of behavior that is beneficial for the system and the system only.

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.

[Tiga KParticipant 1693]

JollyMisanthrope wrote:

MGTOW to me is rejecting societal definitions of what being a man is. Those definitions are all intended to dictate the adopting of behavior that is beneficial for the system and the system only.

I was going to say I like your description better than mine, but then I immediately imagined a prissy mangina bowing down to some c~~~ saying: “Forgive me pure strong independent women. I will be a real man and reject society’s definition of a man, a savage neanderthal. I will change my behavior and not contribute to the patriarchal system that oppresses you.

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