Ding Dong the Spade is gone

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Jan Sobieski wrote:

Why would a rich person kill themselves?

You read it … she said “It wasn’t her fault”.

Billy&The Cloneasaurus wrote:

Not sure why this was posted.

“It wasn’t her fault”.

The Wall® wrote:

Did she hang herself with one of her own designer scarf?

“It wasn’t her fault”.

Gravel Pit wrote:

I have to call bulls~~~

“It wasn’t her fault”.

Fragmented wrote:

Does anyone care when men fall through the cracks and kill themselves ? Nope …

“It wasn’t her fault”.

Fragmented wrote:

So, why the hell should anyone care if a woman takes her own life …

“It wasn’t her fault”.

Thats’ the whole point. “It wasn’t her fault”. Is that the most womanly mantra there is?? “it’s not my fault” And from a Handbag designer as well. But the difference is…. when a man kills himself, he’s more likely to do it BECAUSE he thinks something is “his fault” – or responsibility.

Woman offs herself = “It wasn’t her fault”.
Man offs himself = EVERYTHING is his fault.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[743 roadmasterParticipant]

Thank you Keymaster for expressing it much much clearer and to the point then I could.

mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

[ShenzhenBobParticipant 16]

I have to agree with Billy, it is in really bad taste to celebrate this poor woman’s suicide. Obviously if her suicide proves anything it is that fame and fortune do not always bring happiness and contentment.

In referring to ” it wasn’t her fault ” I think this was a reference to her suicide note which tried to assure the young daughter that her Mom’s suicide was not the daughter’s fault.

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

Keymaster wrote:

“It wasn’t her fault”.

You misunderstood Keymaster. Read it again:

Next to her was a suicide note that told her only child, 13, that it was not her fault.

TMZ is reporting that the note read: ‘Bea – I have always loved you. This is not your fault. Ask Daddy!’

The “her” in the phrase “it was not her fault” refers to the child, not the mother. Read the note itself, where the pronoun is “your” not “my.” In other words, the note from the mother told the child that it was not THE CHILD’S fault, so the little girl wouldn’t blame herself. In fact, she was trying to do something responsible on her way out.

I don’t like how you and the OP are using a woman’s suicide to attack her. Most of us here have sympathy for male suicides. Let’s at least not have double standards like the feminists and have some sympathy for the female ones as well, especially when the woman ostensibly did nothing else wrong.

EDIT: Whoops, the poster above me beat me to the point.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[experiencedParticipant]

To avoid this, help someone, help anyone.
Men do this naturally, the key being nowadays that men have to help someone/anyone Other than females.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[ForeverDoneParticipant 2928]

How a person, worth 200 million dollars commits suicide with a young child is beyond me. Very selfish. That kid is going to even more f~~~ed up than me…

[Space CowboyParticipant 1466]

Big Red said it best when she sang “Cry me a river” into the face of a man talking about male suicide and men dying in the workplace.

I won’t celebrate her suicide, but I don’t give a s~~~ about it either.

Equality! (Apart from higher male suicide numbers of course.)

"Have you ever thought about any real freedoms? Freedom from the opinions of others...even from the opinions of yourself?"

[Jim01Participant 6678]

Keymaster wrote:

Jan Sobieski wrote:

Why would a rich person kill themselves?

You read it … she said “It wasn’t her fault”.

Billy&The Cloneasaurus wrote:

Not sure why this was posted.

“It wasn’t her fault”.

The Wall® wrote:

Did she hang herself with one of her own designer scarf?

“It wasn’t her fault”.

Gravel Pit wrote:

I have to call bulls~~~

“It wasn’t her fault”.

Fragmented wrote:

Does anyone care when men fall through the cracks and kill themselves ? Nope …

“It wasn’t her fault”.

Fragmented wrote:

So, why the hell should anyone care if a woman takes her own life …

“It wasn’t her fault”.

Thats’ the whole point. “It wasn’t her fault”. Is that the most womanly mantra there is?? “it’s not my fault” And from a Handbag designer as well. But the difference is…. when a man kills himself, he’s more likely to do it BECAUSE he thinks something is “his fault” – or responsibility.

Woman offs herself = “It wasn’t her fault”.
Man offs himself = EVERYTHING is his fault.

Great post

As I said in another thread; glad you are back

[Anonymous 12]

I applaud one thing…
The power of her mind to end the game and go “Game over”.

no matter how one looks at suicide, it takes a lot to end ones life.

I think that here motive were passive aggressive though
“it is not my fault” = “it is HIS fault, blame him for my death”
and as such this is just a silly, sad act.

[Won'tGetFooledAgainParticipant 3293]

So it turns out she committed suicide after her husband told her he wanted a divorce and moved out to an apartment.

However, when my ex-wife decided she wanted back on the carousel and was all excited about her new life I was expected to be OK about it. I was expected to move into my parents house, rarely see my children, give her a percentage of my income for the forseable future, have zero money and pay the mortgage on the house she had now moved chad into. All the while her friends were telling her “you go girl!”, the married ones the most vocal as they were living their divorce fantasies through her.

I admit I had dark thoughts at the time but four years on I look back and realise what an idiot I was for getting so upset over a piece of pussy that is now hitting the wall hard.

The big difference is I had no money, nowhere to live and the prospect of never being able to buy another property. She on the other hand only had to worry about finding another c~~~ if that is what she wanted.

For women, everything eventually boils down to Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.

[Frank V.Participant 2445]

ShenzhenBob wrote:

I have to agree with Billy, it is in really bad taste to celebrate this poor woman’s suicide. Obviously if her suicide proves anything it is that fame and fortune do not always bring happiness and contentment.

In referring to ” it wasn’t her fault ” I think this was a reference to her suicide note which tried to assure the young daughter that her Mom’s suicide was not the daughter’s fault.

I must agree too. Someone with mental illness commits suicide. While not big news in itself, I can’t see making hay of it without a solid reason. That is just me.

Frank V.

[sidecarParticipant 35851]

743 roadmaster wrote:

while her husband was in another room

I guarantee she was planning for hubby to discover her and save her before she actually died. This wasn’t a suicide. This was a sick manipulation ploy gone wrong.

Or maybe gone right. Maybe hubby did discover her, but instead of saving her, he poured himself a drink and watched.

Then there’s this:

Kate Spade, 55 […] her daughter, 13

She had that kid at 42. Trust me, mommy killing herself is just the cherry on top of the ways she f~~~ed that kid up.

[743 roadmasterParticipant]

Thought all of this would just be a little blip in the news and it would be done,…but no the media has to make it into an ever growing drama. I see 3 or 4 new articles on this a day.

mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

[Gravel PitParticipant]

sidecar wrote:

This wasn’t a suicide. This was a sick manipulation ploy gone wrong.

Exactly. I hate to paint the husband even potentially at fault of being charged with a crime but women do not hang themselves. Disclaimer: I do not watch news. I hate TV and barely read anything online. I know nothing of the facts of the case beyond a rich new York fashion designer hung herself with a scarf.

It doesn’t make sense at all. As Sidecar just posited, this was a sick manipulation ploy gone wrong. As usual, a woman was not getting her way so she was having a tantrum and so on, perhaps even threatening to kill herself. So she was fooling around and oops, she actually did it. You and I both know, the husband is about to be tried for murder or negligence, something.

Women do not violently kill themselves, that is what men do. Women cry wolf 90% of the time, swallow entire pill bottles 8% of the time (stomach pump) and actually succeed in suicide 2%….and even then, only 1% are deliberate, the other 1% were begging for attention. *Anecdotal figures.

This crazy bitch was dicking around with that scarf trying to manipulate her husband, she had no intention of killing herself at all, it was an accident. She never believed it would work. Women lack the courage to off themselves, period.

The only other explanation is that he killed her, or maybe he just let it happen or helped it happen. Who the f~~~ cares what New Yorkers do? Bunch of idiots up there.

[sidecarParticipant 35851]

Gravel Pit wrote:

I hate to paint the husband even potentially at fault of being charged with a crime

What crime could he possibly be painted with?

[GrumpyParticipant]

Blame is being assigned to the husband/father. Just look at the note.

The designer left behind a heartbreaking suicide note to her daughter Frances Beatrix, 13, which read: ‘Bea – I have always loved you. This is not your fault. Ask Daddy!’

Yes, she assigns no blame to the daughter (correctly).
She alludes to blame in “ask daddy”. The child(and anyone else for that matter) will always assume the responsibility is her fathers. PERIOD
Talk about the ultimate guilt trip.
Marital/mental/financial problems aside. She decided to check out and took no responsibility for HER choices or actions before, during, or after.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[Gravel PitParticipant]

From the rag-propaganda journal article itself:

“He was in the apartment however when Kate hanged herself with a scarf..”

“Kate would self-medicate her suspected bipolar disorder with alcohol”

For all I know, it’s a legit suicide, though incredibly rare. Women do not hang themselves. This is exceptionally rare.

There is likely WAY more to the story. The rag journalist points out the presence of the husband early on. Its deliberately meant to cast suspicion on him, and the suspicion deserved, he was present during something that almost never happens. If she did deliberately kill herself, it was almost certainly to try and pin her death on him.

The article also paints her as a victim, she had to “self-medicate” and “she would not accept treatment as it would put her company in bad light.” I don’t buy any of it. To me, its all fake. Its all bulls~~~, a fictional narrative click bait article. Those people aren’t even people to me, they’re barely shadows of characters in a story. All of them are disgusting. I couldn’t care less if she killed herself on purpose or was just trying to play mind games with the husband, or if he saw her do it and let it happen, or if he straight hung her himself. I don’t care.

I’m just pointing out how weird it is that a woman hung herself. Seriously, what percent of female suicides are by hanging? Its got to be less than 1% Can you really trust the validity of that rag-ass journalist anyway? Its all bulls~~~. She’s probably sipping margaritas on some island in the Caribbean living fat as a hog off Life Insurance.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

http://lostallhope.com/suicide-statistics/us-methods-suicide

Apparently I was wrong. about 23% of female suicides are by hanging. I still don’t believe the data but that is what it says.

36% of female suicides are from poisoning themselves.

Most people blow out their brains with a firearm.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

“””When it comes to successful suicide in the US, men account for 78% of all suicides. The popularity of the methods used also varies a little between the sexes. Whist for men firearms are by far the most popular, followed by suffocation/hanging and poisoning, women have poisoning as their most popular method, followed by firearms then suffocation/hanging. Given firearms are the most reliable method, and drug poisoning one of the least successful, that may account for some of the difference in actual suicide rates between the sexes. It is also interesting to note that women have 45% more non-fatal self-harm incidences than men.”””

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