Differences on how men and women act during crises

[AnthonyNParticipant 112]

So today I was at my parent’s place before my dad had to go out of state to work. My parents are having really big financial issues at the moment. My dad also doesn’t know anything about computers. Which is why my mom had to book a flight for my dad. She’s getting pretty old and she makes mistakes constantly. Because of this fact, my mom booked the wrong flight and now it’s f~~~ed them over financially for about a few weeks.

But, here’s where it gets interesting. My mom panics about s~~~ easily (especially) when money is involved. And guess what happens? She panicked and almost started crying over this mistake. What did my dad do? He yelled a little bit, (not at her because he’s a mangina) but then tried to get her to calm the f~~~ down.

What’s even more interesting is that if it were reversed and my dad f~~~ed up the flight, she would have thrown a fit at him for making the mistake.

Ever since I took the red pill I’ve been recalling instances like these. In almost every situation where there was a crises (mostly involving financial issues) all the women in my family panicked over them. They eventually calmed the f~~~ down, but they were in a state of mind where I couldn’t even talk to them without them snapping back at me or the other men in my life.

If you’re in a crisis no matter the situation, panicking won’t solve s~~~. I’m a recent graduate with a debt of $60,000 dollars working with a min wage salary. I’m calm as f~~~ about it. Does it get to me at times? Yes, but I sure as hell don’t panic over it. And even if I do panic over it, I try not to let others see me panic over it.

Anyone else noticed this trend among women in their lives?

[sidecarParticipant 35860]

Between your two parents, who does most of the spending? Who does most of the earning?

I think I can guess. The answer will go a long way to explaining their different responses to financial crises. And yours too.

[Anonymous 11]

Panicking in a crises never helps.

I know it costs money, but I’ve had to rearrange commercial flights before. It’s not the end of the world though women always make it seem as such.

I’m lucky now. My clients pay for me to fly on general aviation. The pilot and aircraft wait for me to be done.

[guiParticipant 825]

Well, I remember one time I was forgotten locked inside a bus with Mom when on a excursion to the beach. While I calmly called my Dad on my cellphone she was screaming for help all over the place.

Dad was outside the bus and just warned the driver and he opened the door. Simple and easy. I love her but she really p~~~ed me off that day LOL.

It seems all women I ever knew panic a lot when confronted with some stressing situation. Now I know better than expect them to take some useful action in any dangerous situation.

Pity and contempt are siblings. You only feel pity for those you consider weak.

[experiencedParticipant]

There’s an internal switch that THE LAYDEEZ flip at will when it comes to financially related situations.
They flip that switch depending on how the situation serves them and them alone:
If they f~~~ up, it’s tears and drama and ANYTHING but responsibility.
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HOWEVER
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If the situation can be used FOR them, they approach it with cool, clear headed,
offensive cunning. Think of a shark or bear on it’s final run in. They will mechanically stay on that run in, come hell or high-water, because they know it will serve them alone in the long run. Their lack of proficiency at logical thinking is more than compensated result wise, by their abandonment of ALL morality in clicking through the logic. The result is the man’s demise.

Too many men have learned this lesson the hard way including myself.
Think about that switch and whether the situation serves them.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[Wolf redpillmanSpectator 1658]

Women’s.get.nuts and start blaming everybody especially that men thanks god.i don’t have to deal with their drama

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22578]

It is likely the women in your family were taught they did not have to take responsibility for their actions. And in a crisis, on top of worrying about the crisis, they realize for once they might have to take responsible for something.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Five or six years ago my ex, my kids and myself were sitting at the dinner table, when the light above us popped, smoked, and little bit of fire came out of it. My ex screamed, started freaking out and yelling, all within the two seconds it took me to jump up out of my chair and turn off the light switch. Amazingly enough, everything was ok after that. We replaced the light, but crisis over.

She couldn’t believe that I could think that quickly. I couldn’t believe that she was such a f~~~ing retard.

Order the good wine

[Anonymous 12]

What I have noticed is women try and attain a “perfect solution” and this causes them a great deal of stress to begin with, men on the other hand will think of the “Best Solution” and run with that even if it doesn’t solve or cater to every aspect of the problem.

In terms of money, women in general panic big time, I have seen and known women who will start working in brothels/stripping or try and find Sugar Daddies all because they are anything from $4000-$40,000 in debt and I don’t mean the type of debt that will have the local Godfather banging on your door, I mean owing money for College that they aren’t expected to even start paying back until they get a job earning above a certain amount a year.

What do men do when they study? They work, usually without having to take their clothes off or f~~~ anyone. There is no panic or crisis.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Men willingly form hierarchies.

I know my place and my role. I get an order and follow it. The military calls it chain of command. No committee. I may not like it but I follow it. lead follow or get out the way.

females not so much. They operate on feelings. consensus.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

Very interesting. My mom and dad were the same way before the divorce. Mom did the spending, dad did the earning. Alot easier to spend money than make money, and when a man fails to make money, then the divorce comes rolling in.

So far as crisis goes, it’s simple. Take this sccenario. There is a feminist meeting, there are 50% men and 50% women in attendance, and there’s some bitch going on and on about how powerful women are. “I am woman, hear me roar, ect.

Suddenly, a lion bursts in, and all those strong independent women, hide behind the men, and expect them to deal with it.

OR

A fire breaks out. The women who were clucking about being strong and independent, are now running saying “WOMEN AND CHILDREN FIIIIIIRST!”

All this political correctness, all this strutting around stops when crisis happens. The truth comes out, and reality is exposed. They are only as “strong and independent” as men allow them to be, and when it comes time to nut up or shut up, they shut their f~~~ing mouths and cry until the men save them.

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[AnthonyNParticipant 112]

sidecar wrote:

Between your two parents, who does most of the spending? Who does most of the earning?

I think I can guess. The answer will go a long way to explaining their different responses to financial crises. And yours too.

My dad has f~~~ed up quite a few times in regards to financial issues. I won’t go into specifics, but it’s royally f~~~ed us over in my childhood.

However, my mom usually does(did) the extra spending. She doesn’t spend as much as she used to now mainly because she’s too old to go out any place.

Anonymous wrote:

Panicking in a crises never helps.

I know it costs money, but I’ve had to rearrange commercial flights before. It’s not the end of the world though women always make it seem as such.

I’m lucky now. My clients pay for me to fly on general aviation. The pilot and aircraft wait for me to be done.

Yep. I’ve never done anything like that before because I don’t need to travel out of state for my job, but I can understand how you can rage over s~~~ like that if you’re having a hard time financially. But, women will make a bigger deal out of than it already is.

Faust For Science wrote:

It is likely the women in your family were taught they did not have to take responsibility for their actions. And in a crisis, on top of worrying about the crisis, they realize for once they might have to take responsible for something.

Most if not all the women in my family never had to take responsibility financially. It was always the men in my family they fell back on for a safety net if something went wrong. Even though they still have that safety net, they ALWAYS panic like the world is about to end. I don’t get that at all. You’re never going to get anywhere in life you always panic in a crisis.

[Anonymous 42]

Women panic, I’ve seen them wandering around on a highway after an accident oblivious to the possibility of being struck by the scrambling cars and trucks trying to avoid the wreckage.

A fire I was in they all stood around screaming in hysteria instead of taking action, a kid was playing with matches in a closet and the entire 4 family home went up in flames, the youngest child perished.

I’ve watched chicks cry their eyes out while being arrested for DUI.

I’ve seen so many situations where a man stays in control and maintains situational awareness, whereas women more often than not become panicked, outraged, and out of control, a fact the liberal media and Hollywood try so desperately to hide.

I can’t call my own two eyes a liar, but they sure do…

[Anonymous 11]

I had a f~~~ed up upbringing in so many ways. My Mother was a financial guru who was both loyal with common sense though my Father was no spendthrift either. C-Pig got waylaid by women his own age when he ventured out beyond the nest.

My Dad could cook better than my Mom though. My Mom was a probable NAWALT. She could still chick out sometimes, but her generation is pretty much gone from this Earth. In a crises, my Mom would hunker down, fight and never ever fold. She was a rock, and was more than up to the challenge of dealing with me.

The further a woman gets away from say 55 to 60 on the younger side the worse they tend to be. This is a testament to feminism.

[sidecarParticipant 35860]

AnthonyN wrote:

My dad has f~~~ed up quite a few times in regards to financial issues. I won’t go into specifics, but it’s royally f~~~ed us over in my childhood.

That’s not what I asked. What matters is not how many times your father has “financially f~~~ed up”, but rather who earned the money to “financially f~~~ up” in the first place.

Maybe I should have been more specific: Whose name is on the majority of the paychecks deposited into your parents’ joint bank account? Your mother’s name, or your father’s?

[AnthonyNParticipant 112]

sidecar wrote:

AnthonyN wrote:

My dad has f~~~ed up quite a few times in regards to financial issues. I won’t go into specifics, but it’s royally f~~~ed us over in my childhood.

That’s not what I asked. What matters is not how many times your father has “financially f~~~ed up”, but rather who earned the money to “financially f~~~ up” in the first place.

Maybe I should have been more specific: Whose name is on the majority of the paychecks deposited into your parents’ joint bank account? Your mother’s name, or your father’s?

Ah, sorry about that. And most if not all the bills/paychecks is in my dad’s name.

[MattNYCParticipant 2329]

Anonymous wrote:

’m lucky now. My clients pay for me to fly on general aviation. The pilot and aircraft wait for me to be done.

Does this mean a private aircraft, or charter, or something like that?

Is that common in your field of work, or only once you get to a certain level of experience?

I ask because i did risk consulting for ~8 years working for a company like the big 4 accounting. And as much as my clients loved me, they never booked private planes.

[sidecarParticipant 35860]

AnthonyN wrote:

Ah, sorry about that. And most if not all the bills/paychecks is in my dad’s name.

I already knew that, but it was important to ask to make the point.

So your father earns the money, while your mother doesn’t. So when a financial problem comes up, your father knows the full impact of the problem. He knows exactly how much effort he is going to have to put into it to resolve it. In a very real way he knows the true value of a dollar. He may not like the solution he sees. He may not appreciate the labor and suffering it’s going to cost him. But he knows the solution is there.

It’s the same way you are with your student debt. You know that $60k is a huge amount on a limited paycheck, but you know how and how much you have to work to deal with it. It’s like looking up at a huge mountain and knowing it’s going to be a hell of a climb, but you can see the path ahead and know you’ll never get to the top of it without calmly taking the first step on the path. Then the next. And so on.

But your mother does not earn the money she spends. In her world money just “happens”. She doesn’t expend the labor to earn it, so she doesn’t have any real idea of the true value of a dollar. So when a financial problem comes up, she has no idea how to correct it or what the cost to correct it will be. She has no clue what needs to be done, or how much, in the face of a crisis, so she panics. Your father can see what needs to be done and get down to work. She can’t. Her only real option, as she sees it, is to go into histrionics to get others to solve the problem for her. You’ve already noticed that when the crisis is her fault she panics indiscriminately, but when it’s your father’s fault she targets him for her outbursts. That’s all just her trying to get someone else, your father, to solve her problem instead of working on it herself.

Your mother is not unique in this. AWALT.

[Anonymous 11]

@mattnyc:

My clients are wealthy business owners with multiple businesses in our region. They pool their money as a group kind of like a club paying per month and have access to a pool of private planes with professional pilots at their disposal for nominal costs per flight. They fly constantly to manage their operations.

I have to fly into weird places where no airlines service. It’s regional so we’re talking one to 1.5 hour flights at 130 to 210 kts ground speed depending on the aircraft. I do a lot of Cessna 182s and Piper Navajos. The last flight had us landing on a grass field.

The cool part is that I get to ride in the co-pilot’s seat many times. I’m learning at lot about aviation.

I’m a very good and efficient troubleshooter so I identify problems very quickly and solve them keeping them running.

When I was corporate, I only flew commercial. I love flying in small aircraft. You really get a better experience than commercial. I carried my Leatherman in my pocket two weeks ago and nobody cared.

Probably not very common, but I deliver results. I am quite experienced. Mostly, I work from home.

[MattNYCParticipant 2329]

Anonymous wrote:

identify problems very quickly and solve them keeping them running.

That’s pretty cool man. Guys in the trenches & line-management resolve the day-to-day challenges, & for the big ones they parachute in C-Pig. Something like that?

Do you mind if i ask how you got in to that line of business? Are you independent/contractor, or do you do it as a full-time (part-time?) employee?

I ask because i’ve been doing that in Information Security for a number of years – solving the challenges that the day-to-day teams aren’t able to. It’s good work & i like it. But i’ve considered going independent – better hours, more selective about projects i take on, make my own rules about location independence, etc.

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