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Anonymous42@Ynys, You see all the Manjijajinas with thumbs up? That’s right, say it twice Jina-Jina’s f~~~ing sickening, I’d love to throw every one of them through my time machine to the shores of Iwo-jima, and watch through my time-screen as they run around dropping like flies under Jap fire! Or watch Jina-Jina’s flash-fry at Hiroshima.
We used WAIS and Archie to retrieve tech documents from Apple before they had an http server. My cellphone wasn’t a brick, it was an early Nokia if I recall correctly, but it was analogue… CDMA, I believe.
In any case, back to the thread topic. Social networking sucks ass, in my opinion, because it feeds our worst narcissistic tendencies and pushes people further apart rather than bringing them together. While forums like this are about dialogue, social media is all about the monologue… and we all know what happens when you get caught monologing.
A lot of this Facebook bashing sounds like shooting the messenger. Facebook is just a tool. It can be useful if you just exercise some common sense. The main way to make it a tolerable experience is simply to unfollow people who post annoying crap, or post in excess. And if they’re not “real” friends and there’s no risk involving with alienating them, you can take it a step further and unfriend them. And don’t post anything that you don’t want strangers to know. That’s it.
Unfortunately, communication norms have evolved to the point that contacting people via Facebook is the norm for certain levels of familiarity. For those people, emailing or calling would be considered weird or intrusive. And whether we like it or not, sometimes we have to follow norms if we don’t want to be considered weirdo outcasts. Maybe some people are so wrapped up in their ideology that it’s worth it to be a weirdo outcast, if that’s what it takes to “fight the power”. Not me.
Unfortunately, communication norms have evolved to the point that contacting people via Facebook is the norm for certain levels of familiarity. For those people, emailing or calling would be considered weird or intrusive. And whether we like it or not, sometimes we have to follow norms if we don’t want to be considered weirdo outcasts. Maybe some people are so wrapped up in their ideology that it’s worth it to be a weirdo outcast, if that’s what it takes to “fight the power”. Not me.
I would respectfully disagree and here is why…
1. The fact that a certain segment of our society is so dysfunctional that they cannot communicate in a more traditional one-on-one personal fashion is NOT MY PROBLEM.
2. Real personal relationships are deserving of personal care and responsibility. I still communicate with my best friend of 35+ years either by phone or personal appointments. The same applies to all other of my personal relationships. That’s just the way it is in my life.
3. As a man doing his own thing, I DON’T CARE if anyone thinks I’m weird or odd because I DON’T use FB. I am under no obligation what so ever to conform to this expectation just so someone else can perceive me as “normal”. I could give f~~~-all on that front. Their problem, not mine.
4. True, FB is a tool. So are glass pipes sold for “smoking tobacco”. I think we all know most people will buy a glass pipe to smoke crack. Despite their popularity, I don’t buy crack pipes to “fit in” or be “normal”.
Don’t get me wrong…use FB if you have no personal issues or no values that are otherwised impugned by its use. By all means go for it. As for guys like me it has nothing to do with ideology. My rejection of FB is based upon my own independent observation and the resulting value judgment…NOT a rigorous adherence to some dogmatic ideology.
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Anonymous42@ Soul Man, I salute you with cannon fire! Sir!
@dybbuk: i think part of being mgtow is that i have learned to redine what is “normal.’ here’s a paragraph i wrote about facebook and its dangers to men that is in My Story in the Introductions section:
“The next chapter was the Facebook era. A complete nightmare for most of my musician friends. All of us needed to create profiles to keep work coming in and this made us an instant target for any psycho bitch who we f~~~ed on the road, sometimes decades earlier. Guys were melting the f~~~ down man. Horrible. I was one of the smarter ones. I saved all the photos, letters, emails, everything I could from all those bitches since I had learning something important: women do not want to pay their own bills. They do not accept responsibility for their actions. If they can keep a guy under a spell, they will do so as long as possible while spending all their own hours trying to figure out how to get a guy with higher status so they can out brag their friends, balloon to giant porker sizes, and then blame men for everything real or imaginary. They will stop at nothing…extortion, blackmail, anything to not have to cover their own shopping bills, medical bills, car payments, nights out, you name it. They are insane. So, facebook is for them to further extortion attempts and to provide them a henhouse full of billions of old expired vag owners to conspire and complain to while men go out and do the work.”
I still have a facebook account. I’m logged into in on another machine right now promoting the show I’m doing tonight.
What I don’t ever do EVER on facebook is express an opinion. Millions of women are on facebook. they have congregated there like chickens in a hen house. They waste a LOT of time. I don’t engage in facebook discussions as they are all useless and that is mgtow the way i do it.
MGTOW is not full of weirdos and it is not a cult. it isn’t a movement, and it is not an organization. I define it as a series of ideas that are part of an individual and mass consciousness. Takes awhile to understand it for many guys. For me, i already was and finding this website showed me there are other people thinking the same way.
Dybbuk: I understand the point you’re making here about facebook being a conduit and people being free to use it the way they like. I believe that all tools are made to be used in a particular way, however… and that only a bad tool is made without a specific purpose in mind.
Each social media service is designed to promo a specific type of activity… as tools, they each have what you’d call “affordances” meaning that they lend themselves to those specific behaviors the way handles lend themselves to grabbing and knobs to turning.
So yes, I believe it is possible to blame the tool for the way people use it. A site that transmits photos without storing them affords people the chance to share photos of their junk, a site that lets people make brief comments about other people’s brief comments affords people the chance to engage in snide public commentary and a site that is designed for cataloging images and ideas about people’s every day events affords them the opportunity to garner attention from, be sided with or against by and be stalked by people while they do the same in return.
None of those behaviors are what I woulc consider “healthy social interactions” and I believe the tools are just as much at fault for enabling them as the people are for indulging in them.
A lot of similar arguments could have been made about email, circa maybe 1996-97: “I get 50 spams every day…my friends keep sending out these stupid chain letters and lists of corny jokes…friends who used to have to pay for a long distance call can now bother me whenever they want…so I’ve canceled my email account and I’m never using email again!”.
<rant> And some of this talk reminds me of pop culture elitism, where anything popular by definition must suck and be beneath my high and mighty self, like the indie music fan who thinks that any band who has a gold record is by definition a sellout who makes generic crap that I would never listen to because I’m better than that. </rant>
The nature of my relationships with various acquaintances makes Facebook an ideal tool for keeping in occasional touch with said acquaintances. The annoyances are easy to minimize. What other people use Facebook for is none of my concern.
Aggressively defending nice guys and facebook… I’m starting to get a bit suspicious, I have to say.
Look, you like to use facebook, then go ahead. Nobody is going to stop you. But this “pop culture elitism” charge is childish and it avoids the entire point of the argument which is that social media tools are feeding and reinforcing narcissistic and socially divisive behaviors which I PERSONALLY would like to avoid.
I’m not advocating for legal restrictions or telling anyone they shouldn’t use facebook or twitter or instagram, I’m saying that I choose not to do so and that I am suspicious of the motives and mental stability of people who sit on their phones tweeting for attention rather than talking to real people right in front of them.
Fundamental question here: Are you not okay with me being not okay with something you like to do? You seem to want people to sympathize with pussy begging nice guys and stop criticizing users of social media. Why do you care that I think these people are active participants in their own psychological debasement? Do you feel like I am attacking the socially awkward or something, because you sure are starting to sound like an apologist for the kind of guys who “get friendzoned” and spend a lot of time orbiting hot girls who post lots of selfies while being angry at those girls for not giving them the sex they “deserve” but are afraid to ask for.
Just for the record, you’re talking to a 46 year old man who has been chasing pussy online for 23 years. I’ve got enough stamps on my Nice Guy card that if they were Marlboro points, I could trade them in for a brand new Ford F-250 truck. I’ve been in the friendzone with so many women for so long that I could build a summer home there and run for public office. I was a dork and a social outcast and played D&D and was a goth and tried to tell myself that I was happy being a loser but I wanted so desperately to be one of the cool kids (so the cheerleader I had a crush on would talk to me) that I was willing to let them beat me up every day at school just for the privilege of hanging out with them. So trust me when I say I know what it’s like to be so deep in the blue pill world that I would literally pray to God to “send me an angel” and then get righteously enraged by the actions of other guys who actually had girlfriends and were doing exactly the sorts of things I so desperately wanted to do.
I am not “better than that”… I’ve been right down in it since as far back as I can remember and I’ve searched my entire life for understanding of how to set all that aside and live a calm, rational life for myself. This is the path I took to get here. I understand the pain and suffering that men go through on the hunt for pussy and the power of the lure of “nice” and “like”… and I also know those things do not work but just make things worse.
How is that for a rant?
I have a Facebook, Pinterest, GooglePlus/YouTube, Twitter, LinkedIn, reddit, and other social networking profiles. I see these social networking sites as a tool to maintain and promote a positive professional image. That’s the way it is for many working professionals, students and businesses. It’s just a tool. I use some more than others and the frequency with which I post varies depending on my own whims. Yes, there are mountains of Social Justice Warrior type posts, or TradCon defeat the left s~~~, and conspiracy theorists; you mostly want to avoid this s~~~. Fortunately, these SJW’s are louder than their numbers. They’re all bark and no bite. Responding to them only gives credence to their victimization routine. You can certainly opt out if you like.
Facebook was started and blew up while I was a Junior/Senior in college. Only college students were on it. It was great for getting ass. Then, our older brothers/sisters left My Space and joined Facebook. Then our parents joined up. And then our f~~~ing grandparents signed up! Facebook today, is not what it started as. I still have my account, but it is all weddings and babies now … advertisements and links to suggested articles that might as well be advertisements. Many of my friends have all but shut their accounts down. I’m probably not far behind.
A circle-jerk is when a bunch of dudes get in a circle and jerks-off the guy next to him. Circle-jerk sounds like the very definition of FB/Twit.
Dude #1: “Look at where I went/am going/want to go…look at what I’m doing/want to do/what I did…look at the hot girl I dated/am dating/want to date…look at what I own/just bought/want to buy…”
Dude #2: “Damn, son…you are the s~~~!”…as he starts to jerk-off Dude #1. Dude #2 “likes” jerking as much or more as Dude #1 “likes” getting jerked!
A social media diva with 500 “friends” who never talks to 490 of them, not even once…what does that even mean? It’s like sucking your own dick and telling everyone you get laid all the time! Remember the girl from a couple of years ago who told all of her dear “friends” on FB that she was going to kill herself? She did it…because no one gave a s~~~. Nor do they. Nor should they…they never were her friends in the first place, just clicks on a screen. But she was too stupid to realize the difference between the real world and some fake world of her own creation.
“Social media is a tool.” True. It’s a tool one uses to stroke their ego, inflate their wealth/passions/accomplishment/victories. Which is why we all know some guy whose FB page looks like he won the lottery, goes on adventure vacations every weekend and is f~~~ing different Victoria Secret models everyday. Please. FB is not a tool…he is.
If you need to feel accepted, if you need to know that you’re “normal,” if you need the approval of total strangers (and no, they guy who sat next to you in 5th grade is not your friend), if you need to share with 500 strangers that your lunch burrito was good but that it had a little too much tomato and not enough cheese…then by all means, join the circle-jerk. You’ll sleep better knowing that you’re a hapless attention-whore of the digital age. And don’t even get me started about Pinterest.
Anonymous42@dAKOTE “Dakota” CANT EVEN SPELL YOUR NAME I laighing so hard,HA HA HA HA…. HAHA kjDZkujdjjkklllyujkl You go a thumbs up first line!
Doc said “How is that for a rant?” I don’t know which one I enjoyed more!!!
Dakota! I’m f~~~ing dying laughing over here:
A social media diva with 500 “friends” who never talks to 490 of them, not even once…what does that even mean? It’s like sucking your own dick and telling everyone you get laid all the time!
You know how many women I knew like that? Some study recently showed it’s simply not possible to successfully maintain more than 150 personal relationships with other people – calculating 24 hours a day, sleep time, work time, the time it takes to meet people and cultivate a true friendship, that sort of thing. Anyone with more than 150 “friends” (and acquaintences) is kidding themselves. I know so many f~~~ing broads like that.
One Ex in particular who anted me to “friend” her and I never did. I definitely factored into her life as much as family members, but because she had some 900 other friends, friending her on Facebook would have been meaningless. Nah. You can pretend to be friends with those people who don’t matter, and I will prefer to live in your memory thanks.
900 friends on Facebook, you gotta be f~~~ing kidding me.
I can’t even keep with the MGTOW.com introductions!If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous42I’m glad that how many friends I have doesn’t dictate how many fingers and toes I have, if that were the case, I would probably have to learn to walk with my dick.
I personally love Facebook because it’s very beneficial for me.
I have two Facebook accounts. One account was created so I can have better interaction with my YouTube subscribers. I have over 9,000 YouTube subscribers, and it’s easier for me to communicate with them on Facebook rather than it is for me to communicate with them on YouTube. A few of my subscribers have also found out about my YouTube channel because of this particular Facebook page.
My other Facebook page is my personal one. It’s beneficial for me because it allows me to communicate directly with musicians, plan/schedule for events, and keep in touch with my friends who live in foreign countries. I’ve also found out about new bands through Facebook suggestions. So Facebook is a highly beneficial tool if it’s used properly. I once won free tickets to see a band named August Burns Red in concert all because of Facebook.
UNFORTUNATELY, it’s painful at times. I constantly see men convert into manginas. It’s always the same story. The man is being his manly self, he gets into a relationship with some woman, then every post after that is about that woman and how much he loves her. One guy got married and went on a honeymoon in Hawaii with his new wife. While on his honeymoon, he would post at least 10 pictures every day about what he was doing, like “We’re on this beach” or “We’re about to drink this.” I wanted to tell him to turn his phone off and enjoy his honeymoon! It was as if he was neglecting his wife. I also did not care about his honeymoon because it had nothing to do with me.
Another problem is that the women always gang up against me when I say something that they don’t like, even when I’m stating a fact. To make it even worse, a bunch of manginas and White Knights come out and start defending these women. I always stand my ground though, and I let them know that I don’t care about what they think. I always try my best to encourage the other men on there to stop being afraid of being a man, and I often give moral support to the younger guys. A few of the other women have told me that they were turned-on by my “I-don’t-care” attitude too.
I think the thing I hate most is when women (and it’s ALWAYS women who do this) post pictures of themselves EVERY SINGLE DAY, usually with the same pose!!! I don’t care how beautiful she is! If she posts pictures of herself every day, then I “unfollow” her. And yes. Women still post things like “Where have all the good men gone?” A lot of women even tell major lies just to try to get a reaction. They change their relationship status to “married” even though they’re single. They post a sonogram without leaving an explanation just to make people THINK that they’re pregnant. Then they’ll be like, “I’m just married to myself” or “I never said that sonogram came from ME”. The trick is to “unfollow” all of the crazy people. Once you do that, then Facebook is less stressful and more enjoyable.
I almost forgot! I especially hate it when women (again, it’s ALWAYS women who do this) “LIKE” THEIR OWN POSTS! What’s up with that? It’s like voting for yourself to become the president.
@dakota….LOL, so f~~~ing true! EVERY.F~~~ING.WORD! GREAT POST BRO! F~~~ING CLASSIC!
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Anonymous5I forgot I posted in this thread. Just updating that I deleted my facebook. I just said f~~~ it. I never go on the site and when I do, I hated it. It was boring as f~~~ and I never used it to talk to people. I always hated the fact it saved every conversation with every person I ever talked to. That angered me greatly as we all know being drunk + facebook = Embarrassing posts. I don’t need to be reminded of dumb s~~~ I said 5 years ago. Nor do the people that I spoke too.
Anonymous42The only definition for circle jerk I ever heard till now, was when a bunch of cookie cutter houses are built on a dead end road with a circle at the end. F~~~ that, I’m adopting the new definition and carving it deep and bold in the stone of my Mancave! F~~~in Classic!
This post and it’s content are the closest contact I ever had with FB. I smell jina-spray from my fortification.
Let me guess? from my indirect contact with, through what I have learned from this post…1.FB must be one of those sights that has so much clutter, so many hyperlinks, and packed in so close together, that it is nothing more than an enormous grap-jina press!
2.The FB site is probably packed to the walls, down the halls, and standing on the roof, are multitudes of Manjinas that would be more than willing to stab MGTOW or any of its members on the slightest whim from their blue pill commanding alpha C~~~S.
3.You don’t want a guy like me over there at FB, My rants would have every henhouse in that hive bombarding MGTOW with so much web-traffic it would seize our server.
4.FB would make a great HELL, having to read every word of it over eternity.
5.FB is only useful for Gyno based products, you couldn’t give away, maps, calculators, tools, or logic, even if you attached $100 bills.
6.FB is responsible for many weak minded Manjinas so stuffed full of estrogen they chose to leave FB forever by killing them selves.
7.FB dilutes testosterone, shrivels b~~~~, and manufactures not only Manjinas, but the new T 1000 Gynomanjina.Social Media (?)
No thanks, I’ll stick to my policy of avoiding anything with ‘social’ in its name.Today’s headline: ‘ISIS’ HACKS PENTAGON SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
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