Debate Topic: One of the reasons MGTOW exist?

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

Because the lack of understanding we have for women?

Or

We do understand women, and we don’t like what we seen and experienced?

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[Anonymous 11]

bigboy83 wrote:

We do understand women, and we don’t like what we seen and experienced?

I’m going with this one.  I was forced into MGTOW, because I began to place value of myself over serving others’ selfish needs.  Given what we face, MGTOW is the logical response.

To you AVFM lurkers, guess what? All I have to do is park my ass at bars that cater to women twenty years my junior, and I can score with them.  All I do it kick back and wait no PUA bulls~~~ is needed.  The fact that they are a bunch of tattooed c~~~ carousel skanks does have bearing upon my decisions.  Myself over all others is the new way.

My understanding of women and their motives is downright scary.

[MOWsince95Participant 1446]

#2 … and I’ll add to that “we do understand how the legal system caters exclusively to women, and we don’t like what we’ve seen and/or experienced.”

MGTOW is the sanest, smartest response to acknowledging the facts about women and about a system that rewards women in any scenario while persecuting men far beyond any degree of reasonableness, and even more so if the guy is morally and ethically in the right.  Best simply not to engage.

If you are MGTOW when you are young you have no heart.
If you're not MGTOW when you are 20 you have no brain.

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

Lack of understanding of self. The answer is within you. No sense in hating a woman for being a woman. Recognize where you strayed from the path, and correct your course.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Both are right, but I’m solidly in Snake’s camp. Understand your self first, center yourself on hard cold reality, and then deal with the world.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[DurdenParticipant 1051]

I believe in both camps and the camp a guys sits in is based upon what stage they are in swallowing the red pill. Those who are just starting to discover MGTOW and  the red pill have a lack of understanding. Not knowing how things work they seek knowledge. A good indicator that I like to see is anger at the current situation.

Those who understand woman and don’t like what we see enough to engage have swallowed the red pill. We see the true nature in women and accept it. But at the same time do a calculation and realize it is not worth it .Women have become a liability more so than an asset. We understand and don’t want a woman who has swallowed 40 different guys loads to kiss our children. So we don’t have children with them. Doesn’t put up with a guy who won’t be monogamous when she has f~~~ed that many guys and is upset because you are her second choice. They don’t bring anything to the table but used pussy nowadays.

It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything

[MendokusaiParticipant 256]

I think at first it was the lack of understanding coupled with the abuse I received when I was young by those c~~~s.

Now that I have matured and grown stronger both physically and mentally and can see the little fetards for who they really are and what they represent, I choose to limit my interaction with the weaker sex as much as possible.

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

PUA’s are so lame. When I started working out in 2002 I attracted women like bees to honey with NO EFFORT. I used to be a cashier at work back then and women would hit up me all the time even in front of their boyfriends or hubby. While riding my mountain bike women would flirt at me but I wouldn’t flirt with them back. I realized there was a lot of skanks to ditch their boyfriend or hubby for me. Actually there was this married lady tried to date me but I ignored her and she left him and still tried only to fail. It was funny to talk to her ex hubby at the time and I told him what was going on. He told me she was sleeping with other men and then she tried to get back with him and he refused. He didn’t need her since he was a bouncer at a strip club, he had many female stripper friends he could f~~~ easily.

Even in Toronto I could get laid when I moved here. When I was riding my bike at night a group of women in a car tried to pick me up . I just ignored them and continued riding. LOL The look on their faces. Who cares I don’t want some used pussy that had so many c~~~s in them. I have less than 3 partners so I would expect women have the same morals.

My main reason to go MGTOW is that women aren’t worth it anymore.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[treelville..miamiParticipant 893]

Snake nailed it.

This s~~~ is a battle, first get over the initial anger of the situation, then conquer yourself. Once you find where you f~~~ed up, don’t repeat those mistakes but this is where the real battle starts just hold strong and divise a winning POT (point of attack).

"The wounds of honor are self inflicted"

[experiencedParticipant]

As better men posted, “you can understand them – or – you can love them.”  That said, it’d be the height of nefariousness to not warn others of the numerous significant dangers.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[peterfaParticipant 833]

Of course you’d come here and say that, because you know they’ll never let you say what you really think and feel, those who would ask that question. It’s worth it to come up with a pithy response so you can. Mine is, “I can’t afford one [marriage or woman].” It implies being broke with reminding people that they cost too much. Women are expensive. I’m lucky to be unmarried and having no kid.

As for the paragraph above this one, “they,” refers to anybody outside of this forum who would ask you that question, primarily those who don’t get it and won’t listen. Not listening makes it seem like you did your due diligence while remaining a bigot.

[GrumpyParticipant]

Snake wrote:

Lack of understanding of self. The answer is within you. No sense in hating a woman for being a woman. Recognize where you strayed from the path, and correct your course.

Kudos Snake, for myself I substitute “my path” for “the path”.

As for understanding women. I really cant be bothered to try to understand such a highly contradictory entity any more. I wasted enough time and energy trying that, and decided that my life revolves around me, and what or who is important to me.

 

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[LunaticReasonParticipant 78]

I would say the second.

I say this as a former white night blue piller. Personally I still believe in empowering young girls but the more I observed feminism as it functions today and what they are teaching young girls to act and behave I went Mgtow because I couldn’t’ stand for the bulls~~~ and I also started discover what I was lacking as a male and how my male identity was being destroyed in favor of some feminist narrative.  If I ever have a daughter

1. I am teaching that a strong female doesn’t need to be reminded.
Feminists like to create this false sense of pride based on whats between their legs rather than merit.

2. doesn’t need to lay blame and is responsible for her own actions.

Too often do I hear the patriarchy or because men scapegoat.

3.  doesn’t need to compete.

Women have this insecurity that turns competitive  and this causes them to irrationally lash out.

4, and doesn’t need to belittle to make themselves stronger.

attacking men isn’t sign or strength and yet I often see women do this.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

I’m 55. I lived through all the changes. Nothing is ever the same week to week with feminists and so all women in the U.S.. I am a doctor, a good boy. I’m convinced that one of the main reason for choosing kids from college that got the best grades was to choose a group of people that would be doctors that follow instructions and don’t rock the boat.

They will work to the point of mental and physical exhaustion just to fulfill the demands of some job. That takes a real conformist.

I have tried everything to make relationships work out. I’ve been to weekly marriage counseling for six straight years.

I’ve tried the, give her everything, happy wife happy life, don’t fight about anything. You know we never had a fight. I’m proud of that and it proves that I’m not a fight starter.

Never had a fight but when the money got tight she didn’t wait, one day, without warning she left with the kid and no forwarding address.

I have tried everything and now it’s time for me.

I’m working on a cool new project, I’ll share it with you guys if it get’s off the ground. btw: All the married guys involved in the project have already been “recalled” by their wives. Pussy’s.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[HimeoParticipant 471]

The tender years doctrine, no fault divorce, automation, and feminism opened Pandora’s box. What has been seen cannot be unseen. We must never forget how abhorrent base female nature is. As our friendly neighborhood pastor once put it:

 

 

These Hoes Ain’t Loyal.

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