Dear Lord – There Are Others?!?

[ManBearPigParticipant 103]

I have to be honest here… I just learned the term MGTOW about 3 hours ago, and my jaw has pretty much been on the floor since. I just can’t believe there are others out there like me. My entire damn life I thought I was alone.

How did I end up on this forum? I got sucked into the Reddit Vortex and somehow found myself on The Red Pill reading about the misery so many men face. That’s when I started seeing terms like Alpha Male and Beta Male and Zeta Male and while I was researching these terms, I came across a YouTube video explaining what MGTOW is (found through researching what a Zeta Male is). It was like watching a video of me explaining myself.

…I researched further.

Holy s~~~, there’s an entire website and forum dedicated to people like me?! Don’t get me wrong, I’ve never needed much of a support system in my life. But holy christ, reading what some of you have written both here and on Reddit is just crazy. I had no idea there were others like me. I had no idea there were other males I could actually relate to. It’s like a sheet has been pulled off of a world that’s been here all along, I just couldn’t see it before. I can now call myself a MGTOW and it’s actually an accurate description of who I am. I just can’t tell you guys how crazy it feels to be able to identify with this. With YOU!

So who am I? My real name is Mike and while I still have some reading and researching to do, I think I was simply born a natural MGTOW. I’ve had only one serious relationship with a girl and to me, sex is extremely overrated. I do not crave intimacy in a physical or emotional way whatsoever. The last time I had sex was over 10 years ago in college and I don’t miss it a single bit. I’ve actually avoided it more than anything. I don’t know if I’ll ever have sex with anyone again and I truly do not care. While I know many MGTOW’s still keep an active sex life, I wasn’t aware any other living male on this planet felt the same way I do about sex, as some of you apparently do.

After college, I decided to follow my father into the corporate world. Cuz, you know, that’s just what men do after they graduate college. They go sit in a cube for the next 30 or 40 years. I was miserable at that job and lived in cubicle hell for 2 years until the recession of 2008 got me laid off and set me free from that prison.

The day I got laid off was my big red pill moment. Without ever hearing the term MGTOW mentioned, I decided right then and there to become a MGTOW. I didn’t care about being “normal” anymore. I was done living for other people and caring what they think of me. It was time to live for myself.

My first move? Screw my college degree. Screw it.

With 10’s of thousands of dollars in student loan debt, you know what I did after I got laid off from my corporate gig? I went to truck driving school and became an OTR truck driver. The reason I did that is simply because I wanted to. I love to drive, I love to travel, and ever since I was a kid I would dream of driving a big rig on the open road. So I did it. Because I wanted to.

Best decision I ever made in my life.

Don’t get me wrong, truck driving is hard work for crap pay. But I loved it. I loved doing what I wanted to do because that’s truly what I wanted to do. The money didn’t matter, my degree didn’t matter, the opinion of my parents and peers didn’t matter (they had their opinions believe me) – I did it for me, and it was great. Truck driving and the solitude that came with it was what enabled me to not only escape, but it also taught me how to be a MUCH happier person.

When I first became a truck driver my company trainer said something that always stuck with me. He said, “the solitude that comes with truck driving will either teach you to love yourself or hate yourself.”

Honestly, at the time, I already hated myself, so I had nowhere to go but up. That solitude and the hundreds of thousands of miles I put under the tires with nothing but my own thoughts was just the therapy I needed. I actually learned to love myself. It’s the greatest gift I’ve ever received in life (or created, depending on how you look at it).

While I was truck driving, and since I enjoyed it so much, I actually started blogging about my experiences on the road, giving advice to new truckers or those who were thinking of entering the industry. That, in turn, introduced me to internet marketing, which led to me starting my own websites/business, and those websites eventually took over my truck driving income. So I quit driving a truck, bought a $7,000 Ford Excursion, a $15,000 travel trailer, got a dog, and travelled from coast to coast, literally, while growing my business from wherever I wanted whenever I wanted.

I finally moved into an apartment here in San Diego and am living my version of the dream. I have no local friends, no girlfriend, no co-workers, no boss, I’m a minimalist, and most of the people I know “back home” still think I’m crazy, but I just don’t care. I live the best damn life out of anyone I know. Being this free is simply amazing, and seeing how miserable my old friends are at the “normal” lives they are living makes me want no part of it.

I hope this post isn’t coming off as me being some pretentious dick bragging about how perfect my life is and how MGTOW I am – that’s not my intent especially as someone who is completely new to this community. However, this is who I am, this is how I feel, and I’ve never been able to “talk” to anyone about this who actually gets it.

So, there’s the short of who I am and how I ended up here. I still have a lot to read and research before I get too active in these forums, but I do intend to be active, including giving details about how my online business operates and how any MGTOW can do the exact same if you have the time and patience to put into it, but that’s for another thread at another time.

For now, thanks for reading my long intro and thanks for having me!!

[CataphractParticipant 2656]

Welcome aboard!

Even if they have never heard of MGTOW or accurately understand what or why we went MGTOW, western societies seem almost eager to create the conditions which make becoming MGTOW the best available option open to men.

Marriage: About as appealing as wood-chipper diving.

[bstoffParticipant 4863]

Welcome Man-Bear-Pig. Read up on MGTOW in the About section.
Can you tell us more specifics about the relationship or relationships you’ve had? This kind of info is important for us to understand you and verify you are actually a male going his own way.

[MACHOParticipant]

ManBearPig wrote:

I have no local friends, no girlfriend, no co-workers, no boss, I’m a minimalist, and most of the people I know “back home” still think I’m crazy, but I just don’t care. I live the best damn life out of anyone I know. Being this free is simply amazing, and seeing how miserable my old friends are at the “normal” lives they are living makes me want no part of it.

I did appreciate your good intro, looking forward to your future postings. Welcome

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[MGTOW_MikeParticipant 6253]

ManBearPig: MGTOW is about venturing the darkness all ALONE. I am super CEREAL.

A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

[bladeParticipant]

Welcome to the brotherhood

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Welcome on board.

I although though I was crazy, something wrong with me?

But no, there is millions of us.

Welcome home brother.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[BoskParticipant 111]

Welcome.

You are not alone but we are not that many either, especially in western countries.

Eager to read about your business model.

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Welcome Mike,

Appreciate your introduction.

Congratulations on your excellent life choices and for keeping the parasites away.

Looking forward to reading your posts in the Forums.

ManBearPig wrote:

……sex is extremely overrated. I do not crave intimacy in a physical or emotional way whatsoever. The last time I had sex was over 10 years ago in college and I don’t miss it a single bit. I’ve actually avoided it more than anything. I don’t know if I’ll ever have sex with anyone again and I truly do not care. While I know many MGTOW’s still keep an active sex life, I wasn’t aware any other living male on this planet felt the same way I do about sex, as some of you apparently do.

Thanks to my Brother and my Mentor, who are natural born MGTOWS, I understand that it is possible that there are biological anomalies of Heterosexual Men who are fully immune to women’s manipulation, s~~~ tests, and relentless requests.
They are naturally immune to the Blue Pill doctrine that all men are subjected to.

Alas, I became retarded whenever I was subjected to a woman’s charms. It still happens today, even though I know better. Now I know why my ancient Celtic Ancestors considered “Love” to be a disease and/or temporary insanity. But, it took a lot of pain and suffering to wake up to “Woman’s Nature.”

Most men who have been exposed to blue pill life, even the freed slaves like myself, have come to the MGTOW road the hard way. Men like myself have been damaged as a result of our time “on the plantation.”

However, life is not easy for Natural Born MGTOWs in a Blue Pill world.

Even though my Brother and Mentor are naturally safe from going on the Plantation, it seems that Natural Born MGTOWs like them tend to be unfamiliar with the risk to a man’s soul when dealing with women.

A women will shred a man’s soul along with his bank account, heart, and time.

My mentor Dave is thirty years older than me and is one of the greatest guys I know. He has been awake to “Woman’s Nature” or “Red Pilled” all of his life.

Dave always has a great sense of humor mixed with a state of peace and tranquility that transfers to anyone who is with him. Even in his eighties, his days are full of social calls, adventures, relaxation, harmony, and merriment. Some of his activities include shooting, sports cars, biking, nature walks, reading, and meetings with likeminded fellows.

Dave will dine out with the occasional woman but they are mostly “boring” and usually try to get Dave to fight with their neighbors.

Dave claims that “when women get together in groups, they sound like a bunch of hens clucking.”

Dave had plenty of opportunities for marriage, but they all “didn’t work out.” Instead of sitting around feeling depressed when a “Unicorn” turned out to be just another “Filthy Mule,” Dave would jump out of planes in a parachute or go hang gliding. When the greatest blue pill “temptation” fell through, she was not his “Soul Mate” after all, Dave went out and got his Pilot’s License.

One of the greatest gifts that Dave gave me was the realization of Serenity. With the attainment of Serenity, Peace and Tranquility are glorious treasures. Having Serenity makes an interval spent watching sun sets/ rises, Bird Watching, and being Outdoors in Primal Forests a sacred time.

ManBearPig wrote:

I hope this post isn’t coming off as me being some pretentious dick bragging about how perfect my life is and how MGTOW I am – that’s not my intent especially as someone who is completely new to this community. ….

Masculine energy is rare in the Universe.

Masculinity is the foundation for civilization.

Men can only learn to be men from other men.

If masculine energy is manipulated by woman and/ or men are influenced by women, the result is abomination.

Dicks always come off as braggadocios to C~~~s.

Exposing a big pair of b~~~~ (testicles) for everyone to see is a masculine trait. I respect a man who lays it all on the table right from the beginning.

Any attempt at honesty is courageous and manly, and never “pretentious.”

I appreciate your honesty and am grateful that another Natural Born MGTOW has joined the Forums.

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[ManBearPigParticipant 103]

Thanks for the warm welcome everyone! I’ve got about 50 different tabs open reading all sorts of stuff about this. The more I read about MGTOW the more it just confirms I’m at the right place, and I’ve also discovered some new things I’ve never noticed before. This is all fascinating.

bstoff wrote:

Can you tell us more specifics about the relationship or relationships you’ve had? This kind of info is important for us to understand you and verify you are actually a male going his own way.

Well, this puts me in a spot. I’m all for verifying I’m a male, but I’m not like most guys, so I don’t know how “male” my response will sound. But heck, if you’re giving me an excuse to talk about myself why not?

This was a while ago back in college. I’ll just call her Brenda. We met in 2003 because we lived in the same dorm and she was our “sister floor”. The floors alternated male and female, but our “sister floor” directly below us was managed by the same RA, we had access to their hallway (and they had access to ours), etc.

At first, we didn’t really hang out by ourselves. We more or less knew each other through other people, so we’d just see each other out at the bar or whatever and start chatting. I actually really liked her at first. I thought she was awesome. I wasn’t really all that sexually attracted to her, but I thought she had a great personality.

So over time, we started hanging out more. Since she was on my “sister floor” it was very easy for us to just swing by or hang out in each others dorm rooms. We started going out to bars alone together, eating lunch together, going to the gym together, and finally, after a few months, things got sexual. We never really had a certain day we started dating or became a couple or anything, it just sort of happened over time.

Now, when things got sexual, this is really where the trouble started. I did not enjoy sex with her and I wasn’t attracted to her sexually at all, but she had a way of making things happen. I know it’s usually the other way around where the guy wants sex more, but in our case it was the opposite. She wanted it all the time, but to me, it just wasn’t a great experience. Not to get too graphic, but there are only a few times I actually “finished” with her.

At the same time, her personality started changing. For starters, she got super clingy. I couldn’t get away from her. God forbid I did something and didn’t include her. For example, one day I went to a football game with 2 of my male friends and she was p~~~ed I never told her I was going or invited her. The reason I didn’t tell her is because I knew she’d show up and just happen to run into us there. Stuff like this became constant.

I finally refused to have sex with her at all. She’d still try all the time, but I wouldn’t allow it anymore. This basically made her hate me, but she still wouldn’t leave me the f~~~ alone.

Finally, I had it. I sat her down and told her flat out, “I don’t like you. I don’t want to be friends with you. I don’t want to hang out with you. I want nothing to do with you.”

But even that didn’t work. She was so ingrained into my social network that anywhere I was, there she was. Every damn time. And every night I went out, we’d end up getting into some argument. I couldn’t’ get away from her.

Finally, graduation came, and I got away from her. It was so freeing, even though I’d have to constantly ignore her phone calls and Facebook friend requests under fake accounts. I actually had suspicions she was stalking me, but it’s entirely possible I was just super paranoid.

This lasted 3 years so I’m obviously only scratching the surface here, but it was a nightmare and she ended up being the worst human being that has ever entered my life. She ruined my college experience.

…And that’s the story of the only serious relationship I’ve ever had and probably ever will have. The end!

[joetechParticipant]

Welcome to the forum. Every man that successfully lives his life on his own terms is a victory for all of us.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[UntamedParticipant]

The FemC~~~S made sure that men were isolated from each other.
As soon as the guy gets married he has to dump his friends, why? And then his mother becomes a ‘problem’ all of a sudden, why? “An abuser will always isolate the victim from friends and family…“. That’s out of their Domestic Violence awareness crap and THEY play it on men while broadcasting that men do this. That’s also a reason why they forbid the opening of shelters to help men in abusive relations~~~s and marriages. NO SUPPORT FOR MEN is feminism unstated yet acted-upon policy while in the media they give lip service to Equality. That’s why you and I couldn’t even imagine there’d be a whole website dedicated to us.
So take a seat and enjoy the Red-Pill wisdom plastered all over this site.
This is home.
Welcome, ManBearPig.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[Anonymous 12]

Large grin…
Must have been quite a rude awkening!

Welcome to the MAN cave… where no wives haunt us as we chill out and then go our separate ways.

[NerdTunnelerParticipant]

Welcome brother…We come from all walks of life, race and religion but united in reclaiming our manhood…Freedom from the plantation…Glad that you are some of the few who got out unscathed…Most of us here went through the craziness and almost brought us to the brink of oblivion…But these crazy bastards I call my brothers constantly pull those in despair and give them hope that we are not alone…That it is not a sin to be a man…Enjoy brother and welcome…

I stand with feet apart and let my balls hang free...Manginas dont have balls...See how they stand and sit at the whim of their masters...

[NomadicExpatParticipant 1785]

MGTOW_Mike wrote:

ManBearPig: MGTOW is about venturing the darkness all ALONE. I am super CEREAL.

Seriously, SUPER CEREAL.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

There by the grace of God, go you…

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[Anonymous 3]

Absolutely one of the best threads I have read. A lot of great information & support concerning MGTOW lifestyle. I fully intend to read it again.
Welcome Manbearpig
Just a quick 2 cents worth
Solitude, self-examination,meditation & prayer = peace & serenity. And you found it on the road. Great intro you truly have driven on the Road less Traveled.
This is a great place for us ” loners” I live a great life. I come & go as I please

[ZarathustraParticipant 2246]

Welcome and good on your for finding something you love! I would love to be a truck driver!

[AutoliteParticipant]

ManBearPig wrote:

I have to be honest here… I just learned the term MGTOW about 3 hours ago, and my jaw has pretty much been on the floor since. I just can’t believe there are others out there like me. My entire damn life I thought I was alone.

Your reaction is pretty common actually. I’ve been living as a MGTOW for over 25 years but I only knew there was a name for it two years ago. Before that, I really thought that I was the only one who felt the way I did about women and relations~~~s!

I felt like some sort of freak. I was very surprised to find out that I was not alone.

Welcome… 😀

[Anonymous 8]

Welcome to MGTOW brother.

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