Dealing with blue pill parents

[SilentParticipant 303]

I’ve recently graduated college about a year ago and now I’m working a min wage job until I end up getting a job in the field I went to school for. What I have a problem with the most is my parents. I live in the same city as them also (I live about 2 or 3 miles away from them).

I respect my dad in all other aspects except this one: he’s a pussy-whipped white knight. I love my mom as well, but I hate her annoying as f~~~ feminist/tradcon views. I also feel as though I can’t argue with my mom that much if it all because she is terminally ill and arguing with her would only put more stress on her body and cause her more health problems.

However, I hate the fact that both of my parents want me to get married and be a tradcon man. My mom is all for “women’s equality” until it comes to men having the same rights as women. My dad wants me to get married because he wants me to have the typical fairy tale “American dream”. He wants me to have a typical family, have lots of kids, and have a traditional yard with a white picket fence. Both of my parents basically want me to become a “Stepford” husband.

The only reason I don’t argue with them about this is or tell them what I’m actually feeling is because of my mom’s health and the stress it’ll cause her.

So the only way I know how to deal with this situation is to move out of state. I have no real friends in my home town and I’m willing to move out of state to get a better job.

I’ve never wanted kids no matter how much of a mangina I was in my blue pill years. I was just indifferent about marriage until I found out about MGTOW. I also find it pretty hilarious that my parents want me to get married and raise a family seeing how and what they went through just to take care of me and my sister.

I’m 100% with Tom Leykis on this one. Marriage is for the poor and stupid. The only successful people I’ve ever met were single/MGTOW men. And I don’t want to end up like my parents or my aunts and uncles.

I’ve seen how they constantly bitch and complain about each other. I’ve also seen how much the women in my family degrade their husbands. Ever since I was little, my mom always ended up emasculating my dad at least every other day. Hell, she even made him hold her purses and sent him out to get her tampons/other feminine s~~~ when we went and got groceries (this was during the years she wasn’t even sick).

Whenever they’re fighting, or, whenever I’ve had a fight with her, no matter if she was wrong or right, if you didn’t agree with her, you were in the wrong. She also has this sense of f~~~ing entitlement that men are supposed to hold the door open for women, pay for dinner, lift heavy objects, etc.

In this regard, this is why I consider Tom Leykis to be my second dad. My dad has no b~~~~ what so ever when it comes to him not taking any s~~~ from my mom. And eventually when he does have the b~~~~ to argue with her and to tell her she’s wrong, he eventually caves in and agrees with her.

This is one of the biggest reasons I plan on moving out of state to avoid this s~~~ I have to deal with. This and because I’d rather move to a city to where there are more jobs in my field.

I’m just thankful I found out about MGTOW way before I made any mistakes that would hinder my life long term.

[chirParticipant]

At your age the best tactic is to suggest along these lines.

Mom/Dad I’m focusing 100% on finding a good job building my career and earning a starter “egg” so I can find a good woman and bring her the security and grandkids you deserve. Be sincere. This little job of acting can buy you years of peace.

It works.

Trust me on that.

It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

[NerdtasticParticipant 194]

chir wrote:

At your age the best tactic is to suggest along these lines.

Mom/Dad I’m focusing 100% on finding a good job building my career and earning a starter “egg” so I can find a good woman and bring her the security and grandkids you deserve. Be sincere. This little job of acting can buy you years of peace.

It works.

Trust me on that.

I second that. I had the discussion with my parents that i’m not ever gonna get married or give them a grandchild. They were unhappy at first till my sister had one then the pressure lessened.

Silent wrote:

In this regard, this is why I consider Tom Leykis to be my second dad. My dad has no b~~~~ what so ever when it comes to him not taking any s~~~ from my mom. And eventually when he does have the b~~~~ to argue with her and to tell her she’s wrong, he eventually caves in and agrees with her.

If tom leykis is my 2nd dad then i consider keymaster the cool uncle i wanna be when i grow up 😀

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

As a 4x y.o. everyone thinks I’m gay or a serial Killer.

Stepford husband. +100

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[chirParticipant]

I’m 51. I stopped giving a f~~~ what people think of me in my 40’s. Its worked out well.

It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

I your mom’s terminally I’ll, you probably don’t want to move out of state. Treasure the time you still have with her – you’ve only got one mom.

The “focus on building an egg” approach is probably the best one. Avoid the temptation of rushing into marriage and kids because you want to give mom grandkids before she dies. I can’t speak for you, but that kind of thing used to weigh heavily on me.

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[RoyDalParticipant]

chir wrote:

At your age the best tactic is to suggest along these lines.

Mom/Dad I’m focusing 100% on finding a good job building my career and earning a starter “egg” so I can find a good woman and bring her the security and grandkids you deserve. Be sincere. This little job of acting can buy you years of peace.

It works.

Trust me on that.

I agree. I’m in the Greek Chorus and I agree! Seriously, @chir nailed it.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[SilentParticipant 303]

@chir

I feel that’s the best approach as well. I used to play D&D quite a bit with my sister and her bf also, so whenever I have to “act” in real life, I just think of it as playing D&D (Dungeons & Dragons).

Biggvs_Dickvs wrote:

I your mom’s terminally I’ll, you probably don’t want to move out of state. Treasure the time you still have with her – you’ve only got one mom.

The “focus on building an egg” approach is probably the best one. Avoid the temptation of rushing into marriage and kids because you want to give mom grandkids before she dies. I can’t speak for you, but that kind of thing used to weigh heavily on me.

She already knows I might end up moving out of state in a couple of years anyway. I do love my home town, but I’m actually not sure if I want to move or not yet. I’m considering moving over other big factors also not just this one.

It sorta weighs on me, but not as much as it used to. At least, not now that I’m MGTOW.

[SilentParticipant 303]

@nerdtastic

Haha, I second that. Tom Leykis and Keymaster ftw.

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

It’s a tough deal, man.

chir wrote:

Mom/Dad I’m focusing 100% on finding a good job building my career and earning a starter “egg” so I can find a good woman and bring her the security and grandkids you deserve. Be sincere. This little job of acting can buy you years of peace.

Totally agree that’s the best course of action. They can’t be too mad at you, because earning money to be some woman’s doormat is all part of being the perfect mangina husband. There’s no arguing with them, they’re too caught in their ways to change, and even if they did, the fall out would not be worth it. Remember, they and society expects you to be a workhorse, and to provide resources for some woman. At least there’s plausible deniability, and you’re being half truthful.

They’ll come around or they won’t, just like everyone else. It’s your life, do what makes you happy. When you’re on your death bed, you will be miserable because you lived a miserable life to make someone else happy, instead of yourself. Your parents will be long gone, and you’ll only have yourself to blame. Don’t live the life they want you to. Live the life you want to it’s your life.

PS
If you get b~~~~y, and they want to tell you how to live YOUR LIFE, tell them to do something. Your mom wants to redecorate the kitchen? Tell her no. Dad wants a new car? Tell him he can’t have one because you don’t think that’s how he should live. And when they get p~~~ed, as they should, you can throw that s~~~ in their face.

“OH! Kinda f~~~ing annoying when people tell you how to live their life, huh? So don’t f~~~ing tell me how to live mine!”

Of course, you might have had better parents than me, so your call.

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[SilentParticipant 303]

Silverstone the Second wrote:

It’s a tough deal, man.

chir wrote:

Mom/Dad I’m focusing 100% on finding a good job building my career and earning a starter “egg” so I can find a good woman and bring her the security and grandkids you deserve. Be sincere. This little job of acting can buy you years of peace.

Totally agree that’s the best course of action. They can’t be too mad at you, because earning money to be some woman’s doormat is all part of being the perfect mangina husband. There’s no arguing with them, they’re too caught in their ways to change, and even if they did, the fall out would not be worth it. Remember, they and society expects you to be a workhorse, and to provide resources for some woman. At least there’s plausible deniability, and you’re being half truthful.

They’ll come around or they won’t, just like everyone else. It’s your life, do what makes you happy. When you’re on your death bed, you will be miserable because you lived a miserable life to make someone else happy, instead of yourself. Your parents will be long gone, and you’ll only have yourself to blame. Don’t live the life they want you to. Live the life you want to it’s your life.

PS
If you get b~~~~y, and they want to tell you how to live YOUR LIFE, tell them to do something. Your mom wants to redecorate the kitchen? Tell her no. Dad wants a new car? Tell him he can’t have one because you don’t think that’s how he should live. And when they get p~~~ed, as they should, you can throw that s~~~ in their face.

“OH! Kinda f~~~ing annoying when people tell you how to live their life, huh? So don’t f~~~ing tell me how to live mine!”

Of course, you might have had better parents than me, so your call.

I’ve had great parents growing up. The only thing I hate about my mom is that she’s a first wave feminist that wants men to be tradcons. My dad is the same more or less.

They might also be disappointed in me for a while after finding out I don’t want kids, but my mom is like “oh, you’ll change your mind” and my dad is like “it’s in da bible to go fourth and multiply! Hurr, durrh, derp.”

So whether or not they do find out about me being MGTOW, they’ll probably still only think it’s a phase seeing how young I am. (I’m 25)

[HitmanParticipant]

chir wrote:

At your age the best tactic is to suggest along these lines.

Mom/Dad I’m focusing 100% on finding a good job building my career and earning a starter “egg” so I can find a good woman and bring her the security and grandkids you deserve. Be sincere. This little job of acting can buy you years of peace.

agreed . tell them what they want to hear.
they will be gone and you can rest easy knowing they went “happy”.
i don’t mean to sound too harsh, just realistic..

[RedDawnParticipant 1391]

I once told my mom that I wasn’t interested in marriage. She’s still in denial and told my sister to find me a GF, just before she left to go on a holiday.

I won’t argue with her anymore I’ll just play the broken record of ‘I just haven’t found the right one yet.’

Let people have their illusions, meanwhile live your life as you wish.

Courage is the key to life itself - Morgan Freeman

[KeithParticipant 482]

Silent wrote:

The only reason I don’t argue with them about this is or tell them what I’m actually feeling is because of my mom’s health and the stress it’ll cause her.

Huh? So your mom can stress you out by nagging you to death but you can’t speak your mind and tell her about your choices in life? That’s just toxic.

Just because you are related to someone it doesn’t mean you have to like them or put up with them. You pick your friends and you are stuck with family.

Put as much distance between you and your parents as possible. It will be a cleansing experience.

ONCE UPON A TIME there was a man who never found a wife and he lived happily ever after. The End.

[SilentParticipant 303]

@keith

That’s what I plan to as soon as I get enough money. We live in the south west of the United States, so more than likely I’ll either be moving towards the south east, the northern states, or Hawaii.

Plus, whether or not she was in bad health, if you don’t agree with her, you’re “automatically wrong” no matter what. It’s been like that since I was a kid.

I also want to move out of state so I can experience what it’s like to live somewhere without family next to me all the time.

[KeithParticipant 482]

@silent

If you don’t live under their roof institute a new policy, when she tells you that you are “wrong” just walk away, leave the house without a word. Add a week between each visit each time she does it.

If she gets the message, great, if not, it’s even better cuz you won’t have to see her.

I’m rooting for you.

ONCE UPON A TIME there was a man who never found a wife and he lived happily ever after. The End.

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

Thankfully my dad doesn’t give a f~~~ and never brings anything related to marriage and kids up, ever.

My mom brings it up maybe once or twice a year but even then she isn’t using blue pill reasons.

Pretty much every middle-aged guy I happen to cross paths with that finds out I’m not married tells me to stay that way, especially those with one or more ex wives.

As a self-proclaimed misanthrope, it would be a perverse joke for me to help bring children into this world to exist among a species I find truly detestable.

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.

[MichaelSpectator 544]

I’m going to go the opposite way on this:

I wouldn’t preach any MGTOW in your family life or it might interfere with your family life especially if your parents are happy and have been married a long time. Just my 2 cents.

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