Danger of Vaccines?

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  • #684008
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    Every time I got a vaccine I got real sick! So stopped decades ago getting them.

    At least you have a choice. For example when I recieved offer from last job, it contained mandatory reqiurement to get all shots from a list attached to it as part of mandatory medical examination. Otherwise, I wouldn’t be able to get a job. Do a state gives a f~~~ about that, about that fact that it was illegal? Nope. Instead of that any kind of vaccines are pushed forward by it. There are plenty of tricks, implemented in Russia, which forces anybody to get them. Either children, or adults.
    At that time I’ve got only one. It was disgusting vile abhorrent s~~~! Filled with mercury and formaldehyde, made me sick for days! Just think about it – only one shot is capable to mess with your ability to think for weeks or even months! That s~~~ is really dangerous!

    #684014
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    I’m no scientist but here’s my story….

    Ever since I went to college (5-6 years ago) I’ve never gotten the flu shot and I’ve never gotten the flu.

    I’ve been sick here and there, but never the flu.

    I was partying a lot in college which probably caused the minor sickness.

    I don’t care about the conspiracies I just don’t give a f~~~. I’ll deal with the flu if i get it but the only shot im doin comes in a little tiny baby glass 😉

    "Fish can’t climb trees and women can’t be trusted." -Buck Fitches

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    #684287
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    Now that I’m living alone, I rarely get sick at all with no one to bring germs or viruses into my house. All I have to worry about are the sick people at work who spread their nastiness

    Same here. I do not touch people or interact heavily with others. I got a cold from riding my bike a lot during Autumn. I have allergies during the extremely long Fall, with many pollens, humidity and wind going on.

    I do not get the flu shot, never have. But actual vaccines are probably important. If there was a major outbreak, I would not trust anyone or any vaccine. Id go die alone in the woods. F~~~ it.

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    Bulls~~~ as pill pushers get the real profit in the industry not the vaccines. Having doctors write out s~~~ for people to be put on drugs is far more profitable for the doctors then vaccines currently are.

    Hell it is alot f~~~ing better for the doctors to not push vaccines in order to profit off of people becoming sick and needing to be put in a hospital as that brings in alot more profit then even the drugs do (if doctors really wanted to scam you they would avoid anything to do with vaccines as vaccines are cheaper then treatment for the diseases they prevent).

    bulls~~~ my ass. google “vaccine kickbacks” before you call bulls~~~ on something. here you go

    search google for vaccine kickbacks

    and on the first page, here’s this

    Dr Sears: Do Doctors Have Financial Incentive to Get Their Patients Fully Vaccinated

    and this
    kickbacks pediatrician gets for vaccinating/

    Why do insurance companies and vaccine companies pay out a million $ for utter complete compliance? Like I said, vaccines make people sick, not healthy. I’ll bet they have a chart that shows them what the lifetime profit is that they can make for each vaccine given. You think vaccines make you healthy? The only reason a psychopathic company is going to push something is because it makes them money. And do you think drug companies make money selling drugs to healthy people?

    i forgot some points on my list of how to make a trillion$.

    $ Make your (snake-oil) drugs addictive.
    $ Make a profit from free things – make them illegal. hemp is a weed, it grows anywhere. how can we make a profit off of that? sex is free. make it illegal. make you inadequate. make you guilty. convince women that thing between their legs is priceless. water is everywhere for free. making it illegal is problematic, but … poison it (fluoridate the tap water, and contaminate every standing body of fresh water), and then sell small bottles at $4 each for something that costs you $.01.

    I have a plan to charge for sunshine … it goes like this. make it deadly, or make you think it’s deadly. destroy the ozone layer and sell sunscreen. make sure your sunscreen does not block the cancerous rays, only the rays that cause pain, cause cancer treatment makes us tons of $$$$$. and, block out the sun. then charge to open up the clouds.

    is this not genius?

    Ok if I wash that Red Pill down with some Red Rum?

    #684625
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    Just think about it – only one shot is capable to mess with your ability to think for weeks or even months!

    $ Make a profit from free things – make them illegal. hemp is a weed, it grows anywhere. how can we make a profit off of that? sex is free. make it illegal. make you inadequate. make you guilty. convince women that thing between their legs is priceless. water is everywhere for free. making it illegal is problematic, but … poison it (fluoridate the tap water, and contaminate every standing body of fresh water), and then sell small bottles at $4 each for something that costs you $.01.

    This is genius. I hadn’t though about a lot of these.

    I have a plan to charge for sunshine … it goes like this. make it deadly, or make you think it’s deadly. destroy the ozone layer and sell sunscreen.

    The bulls~~~ ozone hoax is over. However, daylight savings time does just that. It’s dark about 6:30pm here now. So everyone can go home and be depressed and not go out. What bulls~~~.

    #684704
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    4 billion years we’re here and now all of a sudden we need a man-made invention to keep us healthy?

    The flaw in this is that modern humans are a 100 thousand to a few millions years old and throughout that time and man made treatment/vaccines are what prevent us from dying from faulty design.

    Without man made treatments our own design can lead to things that can kill us (faulty teeth, appendix, diseases that were cured by vaccines that can kill us or turn us into a vegetable etc). Those evil man made treatments have done alot of good in helping humanity.

    I’ll tell you this: I would get married again, to a known divorce-raper, and again, and again, before I would ever set foot near another vaccine. Accepting only that I would never get married to a women who had been vaccinated.

    Vaccines have shown to have worked and even if you get sick from one the sickness would be far less painful then the divorce rape. If i had to choose between a vaccine and getting married getting the vaccine is the most logical conclusion and even if it was based on it being bad for health (living in your area exposes you to s~~~ from the factories/car exhaust along with smoke and whatever s~~~ you eat).

    Why are all the vaccine horror stories being silenced? Why is there no dissenting voice on TV, and the pro-vaccine nuts are always calling the anti-vax folks all sorts of ad hominem names? hmm…

    Appeal to conspiracy as i can show examples of people claiming their children got sick or autism or whatever that was on the TV. Now when it comes to being silenced even if people in the mainstream call anti vaxers retarded it still has no effect that the anti vax message is being allowed out into the public.

    The biggest evil of big pharma is public schools demanding kids who attend their school be vaccinated or require some notice usually religious or medical which allows the parents to get out of it.

    And when it comes to attacking anti vaxers it generally is done once you hear of an outbreak of a easily preventable disease especially among Christian or religious circles or you hear of some f~~~head Christians letting their children die instead of getting medical attention (Christian science is common for this).

    Let’s look at this logically: follow the money: having a healthy population doesn’t make the medical industry money. You make money when an individual has to purchase your product continuously throughout his life. Create the problem, then offer the “solution” (literally).

    Vaccines are for reducing the chances of getting a disease or lessening the effect of it in case caught. You do not need vaccines however the cost benefit analysis shows that vaccines are far more beneficial then running the risk of getting a disease and requiring even more expensive medical treatment.

    I could use the food industry as being the greatest evil because without food we will die and the evil food industry uses that fact against us to force us to buy a product for the rest of our lives. Even if you live on a farm in the middle of f~~~ton nowhere you would still have had to buy the seeds to plant the food or got them for someone who did meaning you are still in the system.

    Your body is a miracle. You were made just fine. Only the devil could convince someone otherwise.

    Well actually your body is flawed from evolution increasing your risks for certain things depending on variable factors (it is genetics at work to produce whether or not you will have s~~~ty teeth, bad eyesight or impaired hearing).

    The argument that you were made just fine applies to circumcision or religion more then anything else, as what is the point of cutting a babies foreskin or labia and why would my completely natural sexual desire be a evil sin?

    Vaccines are man-made, like nuclear bombs and poison gas, and for the same reason.

    Of course you equate all that man made to evil when you forget that man made the technology that lets you communicate with a computer to begin with. Without man making modern luxuries such as air conditioning, heating, the ability to communicate with billions of other people while remaining in your geographic location, increased food production such as GMO’s and finally modern medicine, you sure as hell would not be on this website and you possibly would not even be alive today (something as simple as getting sick in your childhood or a needed surgery at 45 could have killed you).

    Of course blame man for all the evils while rejecting the good.

    My recommendation, do not ever let a vaccination anywhere near you or your loved ones – do your research and make your own decisions. If vaccines are so great, why are states having to require them for school? Think about that. If you are forced to vaccinate, home school or leave the state, or the country.

    So what if i do my own research and come to the conclusion that it is best to get vaccinated using my own free will and the benefits outweigh the costs and risks?

    Now when it comes to state exemptions 47 out of 50 allow some form of religious exemption from getting vaccinated with all allowing medical exemptions (so you can just get some crooked doctor to write you a fake medical exemption).

    If you have a baby in the hospital, watch how insane the medical staff become when you choose not to vaccinate. You will see the devil incarnate in these sick people. They will steal your baby and vaccinate it without your consent. We are living in times worse than Soddam and Gommorah. Medical nurses and administrators are some of the sickest people there are. They will even insist on vaccinating your premature baby, that has no immune system because the baby has not breast-fed.

    Newborns literally have no protection from diseases. If you want to test your idea out then take your newborn out to time square then test its immunity.

    Infants are the last group of people needing to get sick as the younger they are the more at risk they are from dying from their aliments.

    Every other commercial on the TV is for a drug, and now the news shows and newspapers will NEVER do a report on a drug company or against vaccines.

    On December 5th, 2017 the news resource of CBS (along with sources like ABC News however this was before that date) reported that the flu shot this year may only be 10 percent effective at combating the flu.

    How and what way is this positive attention for the companies that make the flu shot? these news sources are outright admitting that the flu shots in their current which researches spent hundreds if not thousands of hours on is not effective against the virus as it was in the past (meaning this and last years shots where duds).

    Yes, there is actually a Vaccine Court in America that pays millions in compensation for the horrors of vaccines, and yes, nobody knows about this special court! Funny… how can that be? Hmm…

    It is called the vaccine injury compensation program and alot of people know about it as anyone who types it into google can find it.

    It is not some secret thing on page 93 of google that you have to recite the entire book of the law by Alister Crowley backwards in french and use a tor browser (a special hidden tor browser) after uncovering the 13 secret clues and preforming a mantra on the 666th day of the decade.

    There is nothing hidden about it as this is open to anyone with any form of internet connection to find if they want to as it is the first few results on google on a government website.

    I was vaccinated as a child and I was one f~~~ed up little squirt. This s~~~ eats your brain and will leave you a blithering dumb f~~~ or just plain crippled.

    You are a great example of the vaccines eating your brain, The best evidence offered.

    Now prove with repeatable tests that vaccines eat your brains and make you retarded or crippled? being born retarded and getting a vaccine later in life does not offset the mental retardation same with any other condition.

    Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

    #684712
    Anonymousyam
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    bulls~~~ my ass. google “vaccine kickbacks” before you call bulls~~~ on something. here you go

    Pushing pills is a far bigger and a more profitable situation then simply vaccines as the pills (specifically anti depressants) cost anywhere from 30 to 200 a month (far bigger profit margin then a vaccine especially if the drug use is constant.

    Why do insurance companies and vaccine companies pay out a million $ for utter complete compliance?

    Insurance companies are all about reducing the amount they have to pay out. more hospital visits equals more funds they need to push out thereby they will push vaccines to prevent diseases that can cause the insurance companies thousands.

    So yes it is business.

    Like I said, vaccines make people sick, not healthy.

    Vaccines only make people sick in the sense of exposing people’s bodies to the viruses. Just because over time people will need a booster shot (specifically once a decade for Tetanus) does not mean they created long term customers based on the shots.

    What creates long term customers is those who get put in the hospital for whatever reason and now need their pills to function or those who are just old and need the pills anyway.

    hemp is a weed, it grows anywhere. how can we make a profit off of that?

    Simple create your own hemp fields and profit off the produced good.

    but … poison it (fluoridate the tap water, and contaminate every standing body of fresh water), and then sell small bottles at $4 each for something that costs you $.01.

    If they are poisoning their air and their water supply then they are harming themselves and their existence in the process.

    make sure your sunscreen does not block the cancerous rays, only the rays that cause pain, cause cancer treatment makes us tons of $$$$$. and, block out the sun. then charge to open up the clouds.

    This makes little sense as this is bulls~~~ rambling, When it comes to skin cancer it is down to probability and even with the treatments it is far less severe then other forms of it.

    Even when it comes to the conspiracy to give us all cancer (God knows who supposedly) the problem still remains is those evil globalists still have to exist in our country breathing our air.

    The evil doctors still have families who live in the cancerous society of floride, car and factory fumes, vaccines and GMO’s just to name a few along with themselves.

    Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

    #684736
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    the back and the forth is kind of boring.

    i’ve done a lot of research on this. my observation is this. I went through paul offit books and heather fraser and susan humphries. I am impressed with the depth of footnotes, appendices and research in the “anti-vaxx” books (fraser, humphries, etc), and less than impressed by the pro-vaxx books, adhominem and appeals to authority abound, and not to mention just outright falsehoods. i was particularly impressed with Offit’s chapter on andrew wakefield, having read a good part of the high court judgement that completely demolished the case against wakefield.

    so, i’m more impressed with the research in the anti-vaxx books than in the pro-vaxx books. Same is true for a lot of the websites. A lot of depth in the anti-vaxx, while the pro-vaxx relies too often on adhominem, histrionics and appeals to authority.

    i had the usual jabs when i was a kid in the 60’s. so, not a lot. polio and what, smallpox i guess. in the eighties i had a typhoid fever shot, it knocked me out. i can’t recommend it.

    I probably have a higher tolerance to heavy metals than most. my line on the one side has worked with heavy metals since the late 18th century. that side is free of the usual mental issues, but has a big problem with allergies. the other side was farm based, and has mental issues but no allergies. that side has the full spectrum of issues that anti-vaxxers say are symptoms of vaccine poisoning – add, adhd, chrones (?) disease, inflammatory bowel, etc. no full on autism tho, just asd.

    i did my research and I’m confident that vaccines are a plague to be avoided. the science is in, there’s no doubt about it.

    for my kids i blocked the vaccines until they were over 1 year old. i regret i let the jabber in after that. i didn’t do the research and i gave the offit’s the benefit of the doubt.

    But i volunteered at the school, and i observed how bad the allergy situation is at school, and how bad the behaviour problems are, with an army of kids with ASD and serious life threatening allergies. None of this existed when i was a kid, and i wondered what’s up. I know these things don’t exist in third world countries.

    one of my kids is one of those with a life threatening peanut allergy. So when i saw this book, i had to get it.

    the peanut allergy epidemic by heather fraser

    and her website

    http://www.peanutallergyepidemic.com

    and then things made a lot of sense.

    Peanut oil used as adjuvant in most if not all vaccines, combined with toxins and exipients, re-challenged, triggering anaphylaxis. apparently some guy got a nobel prize for working this out. i loved his acceptance speech, about how vaccines would improve the species by eliminating the weak. In 1914, before hitler, they could be honest about their racism and eugenics. Charles “Chuckie” Richett.

    no more vaccines for us. they’re all tobacco science snake oil as far as i’m concerned. i filled out the statement of conscience form, got it notarized, and they can all sit on it and spin. thank god i don’t live in california.

    Ok if I wash that Red Pill down with some Red Rum?

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    zzzz. how do you write so much without offering up even one link? it’s like you’re in a bubble.

    i do like yams though. yes sir, you have me there.

    Ok if I wash that Red Pill down with some Red Rum?

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    Same is true for a lot of the websites. A lot of depth in the anti-vaxx, while the pro-vaxx relies too often on adhominem, histrionics and appeals to authority.

    The problem with ad hominem as it really depends on the situation and appeal to authority is not a fallacy if the person actually has authority or not.

    Doctors with PHD’s who practice medicine are an authority on vaccines vs an actor or a actress for example so when i point out the benefits of vaccines i use studies by experts in the specific field of them. If they are not in the specific field i will not use the studies by them.

    i had the usual jabs when i was a kid in the 60’s. so, not a lot. polio and what, smallpox i guess. in the eighties i had a typhoid fever shot, it knocked me out. i can’t recommend it.

    The only statement i make is that vaccines are more beneficial then getting the disease not any reaction to it (it is common at the very least to get a sore arm or some feeling of sickness).

    I probably have a higher tolerance to heavy metals than most. my line on the one side has worked with heavy metals since the late 18th century

    Humans general adapt to their climates. If you live in the city long enough and raise kids in a area around it they will be better suited to breathe in s~~~ty air then those raised on the farm (i have have lived within the distance of a city all my life so i am fine with bad air).

    that side has the full spectrum of issues that anti-vaxxers say are symptoms of vaccine poisoning

    Genetics are the ones who determine what health problems your family has just by probability. Family history plays a part in what you get.

    zzzz. how do you write so much without offering up even one link? it’s like you’re in a bubble.

    Ill look more into resources another day (maybe later today) but again the only conclusions i will make is what is supported solely by evidence. If i examine the claims of the anti vaxers and their info turns out to be false (not supported by evidence) then the position stands but right now my position is that vaccines are beneficial and are a good investment based on the cost benefit analysis (the benefits outweigh both the risk and cost).

    Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

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    i wonder if there’s a vaccine for last-word-itis. it seems to be a disease around here. maybe even contagious.

    a couple of things jumped out at me.

    The problem with ad hominem as it really depends on the situation …

    The only way you could say that is if you think monkeys flinging s~~~ at each other is a good fact based debate. I agree, it’s a good show, and judging the winner based on how much s~~~ stuck is good for a beer or two, but would I sign up for … a war … or a flu vaccine … based on s~~~? I got too much spock in me for that.

    … and appeal to authority is not a fallacy if the person actually has authority or not. Doctors with PHD’s who practice medicine are an authority on vaccines vs an actor or a actress for example so when i point out the benefits of vaccines i use studies by experts in the specific field of them. If they are not in the specific field i will not use the studies by them.

    This is fun. So, I’m gonna point to all these trials where experts give testimony that is utter bulls~~~. They are authorities but they either lie through their teeth or they misconstrue the truth so much it’s all but indistinguishable from a lie. So many authoritative liars sent men to rape jail with their fraudulent hair follicle testimony. DNA evidence overturning 10% of rape convictions. How about all those doctors trading in their hypocratic oath for some tobacco money? Offit is classic, this guy makes millions off vaccines, we need to understand that everything he says is a clever lie.

    I think we need to pretend we’re in the jury box. We will see both sides bring out experts, who will have lots of letters after their names, and they will likely say the exact opposite of the other. That’s tobacco science. It’s up to us to figure out which of these bastards is the closest to the truth.

    which brings me to my rockefeller section of how to make a trillion$

    $ bribe universities to alter the curriculum to your liking. turn doctors into salesmen by focusing them on $$$ drugs and $$$ treatments – sickness, not health. Out of 4 years give them 4 hours of instruction on vitamins and nutrition, and do not test them on it. Give them no instruction on vaccines, except for repeating the mantra, vaccines – good, double plus good.

    $ stack the certification bodies with your people.

    $$ make sure the lie you want to tell is the best dressed, and repeated the most. make up a word for anyone who doesn’t repeat the lie, and shout them down with it. “Quack!”. “Conspiracy theorist!”.

    but, seriously, don’t believe me. get the flu shot. I’m gonna go with Chuckie Richet on this, and let any takers award yourselves a darwin prize. The species will be better for it. Like Chuckie says “a sorry matter for the individual… the individual may perish … the life of the individual is less important than the stability of the species.” So, yah, get the jab, do your part to improve the species.

    Chuckie got a noble prize for medicine. He’s an authority. Also a eugenicist, a racist, and a closet nazi. So you should totally listen to him.

    Ok if I wash that Red Pill down with some Red Rum?

    #685185
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    I am no expert but I prefer to keep healthy dose of skepticism.

    Dislike taking vaccine shots and avoid them whenever I can. No flu shots in my life, never had flu. I dodged few shots in my youth by simply not going there and I am still OK.

    Cost/benefit is for sure positive for society and IRS if population gets vaccine shots, but individual risks may vary greatly. I prefer to just dodge the possible bullet if possible.

    The choices we make, not the chances we take, determine our destiny

    #685223
    MrMe
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    Where is carnage when you need him

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    i wonder if there’s a vaccine for last-word-itis. it seems to be a disease around here. maybe even contagious.

    This comes down to the fact that i am in support of truth and what is evident. Other men including lurkers read these forums so i when i can push for what is truth to anyone on the board can see it.

    As long as there is an argument to be made against a bad one it stands.

    he only way you could say that is if you think monkeys flinging s~~~ at each other is a good fact based debate

    Humans are by definition monkeys and when it comes to flinging s~~~, s~~~ can be flung as long as one has the evidence on his side (it is irrelevant if i fling s~~~ and disprove your argument at the same time as the evidence supports mine or whoevers’s).

    So many authoritative liars sent men to rape jail with their fraudulent hair follicle testimony. DNA evidence overturning 10% of rape convictions. How about all those doctors trading in their hypocratic oath for some tobacco money?

    It is funny watching someone who has not made any form of intro on this board start flinging s~~~ so soon to disrupt it.

    Authorities are not perfect however they are an authority on their specific topic. Even if a lawyer is a complete scumbag he still knows law.

    And when it comes to DNA evidence setting men free that is clear about how we need to follow the evidence in all conclusions we make and the conclusion for vaccines are that vaccines are generally beneficial however they are not perfect and there is some risk involved (you will not be 100 percent immune and the risk is that your arm will be sore or you could get sick even just for a short time after the injection).

    How about all those doctors trading in their hypocratic oath for some tobacco money?

    Tobacco companies are not some evil beings intentionally killing us for profit but a company making a profit off of a risky product which us as the consumers accept the risk of. Yes tobacco is not a healthy product but even those who produce it do not do so with the intent to kill people and just to kill people.

    Now when it comes to the connection to vaccines i demand you list it. What tobacco companies has connections or owns part of big pharma? and if they did why is big pharma hell bent against tobacco products?

    $ bribe universities to alter the curriculum to your liking. turn doctors into salesmen by focusing them on $$$ drugs and $$$ treatments – sickness, not health. Out of 4 years give them 4 hours of instruction on vitamins and nutrition, and do not test them on it. Give them no instruction on vaccines, except for repeating the mantra, vaccines – good, double plus good.

    Show me the example where this happens then? what university or curriculum has the details you specifically mentioned? (aka the four hours of teaching about vitamins, not testing anyone, no instructions on vaccines and repeating the mantra blindly)?

    Don’t just pull s~~~ from your anus but prove it.

    $$ make sure the lie you want to tell is the best dressed, and repeated the most. make up a word for anyone who doesn’t repeat the lie, and shout them down with it. “Quack!”. “Conspiracy theorist!”.

    I can call you that because you fit the definition of it not in order to just shut you up but rather to force you to present evidence or be exposed as spouting bulls~~~. If i call you a conspiracy theorist it is because you are spouting bulls~~~ you cannot back up and rejecting any contradicting science as some form of globalist scam (of course the studies that don’t support us must be lies).

    but, seriously, don’t believe me. get the flu shot. I’m gonna go with Chuckie Richet on this, and let any takers award yourselves a darwin prize

    I will get myself other vaccines but the benefit of the flu shot is little in this season due to the virus becoming immune to the treatment. Just because i am not getting my flu shot (i do not seriously need one) that does not mean i am avoiding any of the vaccines i need to get (Such as the HPV and the Tetanus booster vaccines or if i travel to another country).

    Now when it comes to Chuckie what matters is his work which was good enough for the noble prize not his delusional beliefs. Scientific contributions does not prevent someone from having completely retarded ideas or beliefs to which he had eugenic and magical beliefs.

    For example Issac Newton believed in Alchemy and that he had divine revelation from God to even while his work was correct (even if just being the best explanation in their day) reflexes nothing on the science.

    Chuckie got a noble prize for medicine. He’s an authority. Also a eugenicist, a racist, and a closet nazi. So you should totally listen to him.

    On medicine he was an authority in his day and his opinions would have been valid on that topic alone not on the others.

    Now you are a dishonest f~~~head by using that example of a nazi and racist simply because you would negate my argument if i pointed out a anti vaxer with outright bulls~~~ beliefs (flat earth, believes in a literal interpretation of the bible, aliens existing being demons, bigfoot etc) and that anti vaxer could be a leader or popular one.

    If you want to play the game of flinging s~~~ then go right ahead as i can point out plenty of examples of your group believing in complete bulls~~~.

    Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

    #685521
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    vaccines are what prevent us from dying from faulty design.

    You’re making things up.

    Without man made treatments our own design can lead to things that can kill us (faulty teeth, appendix, diseases that were cured by vaccines that can kill us or turn us into a vegetable etc).

    Apples and oranges. I’m against vaccines, I’m not against appendectomies and dentistry. An appendectomy saved my life.

    Conflating apples and oranges is the argument of the con man. So is making up facts and phony numbers.

    Vaccines have shown to have worked and even if you get sick from one the sickness would be far less painful then the divorce rape.

    You’re making things up. You obviously have no experience working with an autistic child, and your statement is presumptuous, arrogant, and insulting to parents of children harmed by vaccines. Why not donate your time at a special needs class before you go making these types of statements.

    I would prefer ten years of divorce rape to one day with an autistic child, particularly if that child is mine and was perfectly healthy before the vaccination.

    the anti vax message is being allowed out into the public.

    You are ill-informed or you’re being deliberately deceptive. Using the passive voice “is being allowed” does make an argument. Using passive voice verb structure to avoid indicating a subject in the sentence is the stuff of deceivers (and how the press writes).

    The biggest evil of big pharma is public schools demanding kids who attend their school be vaccinated or require some notice usually religious or medical which allows the parents to get out of it.

    That is certainly evil.

    when it comes to attacking anti vaxers it generally is done once you hear of an outbreak of a easily preventable disease especially among Christian or religious circles or you hear of some f~~~head Christians letting their children die instead of getting medical attention

    You’re making things up – anti-vaxxers are attacked all the time. Apples and oranges anyway. You’re conflating prevention with reaction. I am not against anti-biotics.

    Well actually your body is flawed from evolution increasing your risks for certain things depending on variable factors

    It is flawed according to your understanding of the world, which, oddly, appears to take the religious stand that humans are some type of better species.

    Your body is not flawed – you just don’t understand life. We live in a world where we must kill or be killed to survive, yet everyone dies anyway. Within that framework, your body is a miracle. There’s nothing wrong with you, until you get vaccinated, that is.

    The argument that you were made just fine applies to circumcision or religion more then anything else, as what is the point of cutting a babies foreskin or labia and why would my completely natural sexual desire be a evil sin?

    “Stay on Target. STAY ON TARGET!”

    Newborns literally have no protection from diseases. If you want to test your idea out then take your newborn out to time square then test its immunity.

    I have literally done almost exactly that, except only that it wasn’t Times Square. And unlike you, I am using the word “literally” correctly. This statement of yours, I am sorry to say, proves you are a complete moron and have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. You are making things up. Newborns are extremely resilient, but they must be breast fed, which happens quickly, as the mother’s milk builds their immune system. I gather that’s what you are basing your ridiculous statement off of. However, you’d feed them formula and inject them with mercury.

    For one moment, use your god-given brain, and think. ALL NEWBORNS are born outside, except for humans. Sheesh.

    Sorry, I told myself after my spat with Gambit that I was going to be cautious and not get triggered on here, but your stupidity and arrogance is not just annoying and smarmy, it’s flat out dangerous as hell. If you are going to attempt to make an argument, at least do the minimal amount of study and research required and begin with an admission that you are inexperienced in the subject which you seek to engage in.

    I am sure we’d get along fine talking about things other than vaccines. No hard feelings, bro.

    Vaccines are for reducing the chances of getting a disease or lessening the effect of it in case caught. You do not need vaccines however the cost benefit analysis shows that vaccines are far more beneficial then running the risk of getting a disease and requiring even more expensive medical treatment.

    I could use the food industry as being the greatest evil because without food we will die and the evil food industry uses that fact against us to force us to buy a product for the rest of our lives.

    Or you could take a writing course and learn how to formulate a proper argument, proper analogies, and learn correlation and causation.

    Of course you equate all that man made to evil when you forget that man made the technology that lets you communicate with a computer to begin with.

    The extreme conclusions you are making from your assumptions are those I would expect form a chick.

    So what if i do my own research and come to the conclusion that it is best to get vaccinated using my own free will and the benefits outweigh the costs and risks?

    Do whatever you want. Based on the way you think, I can tell you have already been vaccinated, and probably within the past two years. I don’t say that to be a jackass – mercury attacks the brain cells, and you can’t think properly. Intelligent people become all screwy when they lose brain cells, because there’s a combination of high intelligence and short circuited connections, hence we get the type of arguments you are making.

    On December 5th, 2017 the news resource of CBS (along with sources like ABC News however this was before that date) reported that the flu shot this year may only be 10 percent effective at combating the flu.

    That’s not a negative report. It’s just not as positive as you want it to be. Do you always reason this way?

    It is called the vaccine injury compensation program and alot of people know about it as anyone who types it into google can find it.

    It is not some secret thing on page 93 of google that you have to recite the entire book of the law by Alister Crowley backwards in french and use a tor browser (a special hidden tor browser) after uncovering the 13 secret clues and preforming a mantra on the 666th day of the decade.

    That’s a red herring. Your argument is, “if you know about it, then you can find out about it”. What is wrong with you? Why are you arguing like this? Are you that married to your conclusion that you refuse to listen to reason?

    If you want to argue, then argue, but at least try to make some sense. Do you work for a pharma company? I am beginning to think so. You begin with your conclusion, and then word backward to create arguments for it, which don’t make sense. You have failed at every premise you have tried to make. You’re statements are all juvenile.

    You are a great example of the vaccines eating your brain, The best evidence offered.

    And there’s the ad hominem! CONGRATULATIONS, We have a WINNER, Bob! Never Fails. He has LOST the argument and he doesn’t even know it. What’s his prize? Why.. it’s an all expense-paid trip to Autism-Town! [Clap Clap Clap]

    I’m guessing you’re not even aware that your statement, while meaning to be mean-spirited and demeaning toward me, can only serve to prove yourself wrong, by your own admission. If I’m the best evidence, and you think I’m a retard, then according to you, I’M RIGHT!

    All I’ll say is… it’s you that have said it.

    Now prove with repeatable tests that vaccines eat your brains and make you retarded or crippled?

    I thought you’d never ask. But you’re not going to watch this video either, because you’re intellectually-lazy and you cannot be saved.

    YOU’RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE MERCURY IN YOUR BODY. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD BEFORE YOUR POISON YOUR BRAIN.

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    Humans are by definition monkeys

    The f~~~? No, humans are homo sapiens. You don’t even have a tenth grade education. Just stop talking. Go do your pre-algebra homework before dinner.

    It is funny watching someone who has not made any form of intro on this board start flinging s~~~ so soon to disrupt it.

    The fact that someone disagrees with you does not make him a disruptor. In this case, it just means you don’t have a high school education, and if that offends you, that’s your problem, not his. Now, you want to calm the f~~~ down and stop this s~~~ already? You’re not an argument, you’re just another mouth abusing people on here. The thread was fine until you began attacking people.

    He is obviously an educated man by the way he writes. Do you not see that? He’s a lurker, and by the way you are treating him, it’s folks like you who push people away.

    It takes time to build trust. By the way you are acting, I gather that’s not happening.

    Tobacco companies are not some evil beings intentionally killing us for profit but a company making a profit off of a risky product which us as the consumers accept the risk of.

    Red Herring. Tobacco companies in the old days knew smoking caused cancer, but pushed it with doctors in the ads, so yes, they were in fact intentionally killing for profit. Just go into any antique store and open an old copy of LIFE magazine and look at the ads.

    Oh right, you don’t read. Or drive. Because you’re 14.

    Now when it comes to the connection to vaccines i demand you list it

    I PROVIDED THE LINK IN MY FIRST POSTING ON THIS THREAD! YOU DIDN’T WATCH IT BECAUSE YOU WERE TOO BUSY BEING AN ASSHOLE TO EVERYONE. Now either go watch it, or shut your insolent mouth.

    Now when it comes to the connection to vaccines i demand you list it

    The f~~~? You demand? Is that your response to “he gives no links”. Ha ha. By your own words, type it into google and look it up.

    It is not some secret thing on page 93 of google that you have to recite the entire book of the law by Alister Crowley backwards in french and use a tor browser (a special hidden tor browser) after uncovering the 13 secret clues and preforming a mantra on the 666th day of the decade.

    There is nothing hidden about it as this is open to anyone with any form of internet connection to find if they want to as it is the first few results on google on a government website.

    Don’t just pull s~~~ from your anus but prove it.

    Great. Another closet queen. Just wait for it… He’s gonna use the term “butthurt” soon. I just know it. These closet f~~~~~s are too predictable.

    I can call you that because you fit the definition of it not in order to just shut you up but rather to force you to present evidence or be exposed as spouting bulls~~~

    So nice to see a guy with four thousand plus votes talk this way to a new member with only 10. Stanford Prison Experiment much? Anonymousyam, you’re a real asshole, you know that? I’ have about had it with you guys on here.

    Now you are a dishonest f~~~head by using that example of a nazi and racist simply because you would negate my argument if i pointed out a anti vaxer with outright bulls~~~ beliefs

    Real nice. That’s a way to talk to other men. Lay off the drugs man. Try capitalizing your Is for starters. You don’t even have a high school education.

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    sandals –

    If you want to argue, then argue, but at least try to make some sense. Do you work for a pharma company? I am beginning to think so. You begin with your conclusion, and then word backward to create arguments for it, which don’t make sense. You have failed at every premise you have tried to make. You’re statements are all juvenile.

    Look at the tricks malevolent yam used in his arguments. He’s trained in this. I’m gonna go with – yes, he’s connected to big pharma. He’s a big pharma troll.

    Ok if I wash that Red Pill down with some Red Rum?

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    ok, so i’m kind of skimming over a-yam’s yammer. I think I got him mad. Sorry about that. I think he kind of doesn’t get or doesn’t want to get what I’m saying. If he’s not a troll, the best I can say is

    It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!

    Comments in general.

    I’m new here, i’d like to put an intro, but I haven’t had time. I did put something substantial in my profile, so have a look at that. I’m kind of annoyed i can’t change my avatar. bill the cat, father jack, bullwinkle or popeye, anything but a headless guy with a suit.

    I’m anti-vaxxer, you bet. I see what it’s doing to the people around me, including my own child.

    yam – regarding medicine school’s notorious omission of health and nutrition from their curriculum – i don’t think you have to go far to find a lot of documentation on that. I realize you’re trying to misdirect the discussion and waste my time, so I’m going to suggest you do some legwork on this. I’ve noticed that of all the people replying to this thread, you are the only one with a link to word count ratio that is a zero. around 0:100,000, so that’s what i call a massive zero. So maybe it’s time you did some of the work. In this reply already I’ve already put in more links than you have in your entire yammer.

    I’m not sure, but I always thought a lurker was someone who hid on the sidelines and said nothing.

    finally, my favourite anti-vaxx website. these guys rock.

    https://vaccinechoicecanada.com/

    Ok if I wash that Red Pill down with some Red Rum?

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    ah ha, here’s a good one …

    Tobacco companies are not some evil beings intentionally killing us for profit but a company making a profit off of a risky product which us as the consumers accept the risk of. Yes tobacco is not a healthy product but even those who produce it do not do so with the intent to kill people and just to kill people.

    Now when it comes to the connection to vaccines i demand you list it. What tobacco companies has connections or owns part of big pharma? and if they did why is big pharma hell bent against tobacco products?

    hmmm. I’m pretty sure I didn’t say anything about cross-appointed directorships, club memberships, or stock portfolios, or even holding companies. But, I guess you have read my mind, and anticipated what I’d like to say.

    It’s pretty clear that those companies of the jab are running with the same playbook as Tobacco. The phrase tobacco-science applies just as well to big-pharma as it does to big-tobacco.

    For big-tobacco the rubicon was when insurance companies started pushing up the rates for first hand and second hand smoke. You could claim that first-hand smokers had only themselves to blame, but when the numbers came out for exposure to second hand smoke, it was pretty clear the courts would put somebody out of business, if not in jail. I suspect big-pharma will find the same rubicon wrt vaccines. Hopefully before 2030 when 1 in 2 children will be autistic or have a deadly allergy, according to the current cliff-hanger projection chart.

    and a link, if you want to chase down what we have to look forward to.

    Del Bigtree – Highwire

    Placebogate

    Ok if I wash that Red Pill down with some Red Rum?

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