Damn, this turned out long… I hope it's worth a read.

[mesohuntParticipant 65]

Hello all, here goes my general rundown.  I am a typically aged (38) year old American MGHOW.

HOW I FOUND MGTOW.COM

I found MGTOW because of  feminists, and I really like to savor that irony every time I think about it. They are sowing the seeds of the destruction of their own movement, because as usual truth has a way of seeping through the cracks of propaganda without the propagandist even knowing.

I have been a semi-avid follower of political crap since the early 2000’s, and sometimes post in comments sections of articles.  I like to throw a bit of sense and some facts into the name calling poo-throwing messes that passes for discussion online.  Well, one day in May(2014) I start reading an article about the writings/rantings of Elliot Rodger, the Isla Vista killer.  So, in identifying with some of the feelings he was having (but not his violent reactions to them), I naturally felt conflicted.  None of the people he killed caused him any trouble, and they didn’t deserve to die.  No woman on earth OWED him sex or affection, yet I felt for him because I once was in my early 20’s and had little luck with women.   Painful injustice mixed with instinctual biological addiction to sex when filtered through a troubled mind leads to dangerous and unfortunate situations.  Just imagine a junky forced to watch people get high all day around him, but the dealers won’t sell him any.

So, with that mindset I waded into reading the comments to find some of the most vicious and heartless females tearing into anyone who DARED approach the issue with any nuance whatsoever.  They KNEW he was just a backwards stinky dungeons and dragons gamer eating Cheetos in his Mom’s basement expecting hot women to just stroll up to service his member out of pity.  They assumed he killed these people(mostly men) out of a hatred for women who denied him his birth-right of pussy.   Well, although filled with annoyance at this closed minded crap, I didn’t get into posting comments on that article, but I saw many feminists mentioning that he should be the poster boy for every MRA there is(even though he didn’t belong to or endorse any, as far as I know.)   I didn’t know the term MRA, so the online investigation began and quickly alerted me to MGTOW.  Once I read what MGTOW meant, I said:   “DAMN!  I’ve been living that life for quite a while now and didn’t know it had a name or following!”

MY HISTORY OF TRANSITION TO MGTOW

I had one real girlfriend in High School and basically a few more short stints in my college years, but have not had any real LTR since 1997.  From ’97 to around ’01, I didn’t really care(other than still wanting to get laid), and wasn’t really looking for anything close to serious.  I was doing the unattached party scene and just generally hanging out with friends, going to concerts, baseball games, road trips etc…

Then, after I was done with college for a couple years and was working full time as a Web Programmer (perfect pickings of the beta male provider), I got the societally induced boredom-lonliness.   The party scene was slowing down, and my chances for unattached sex had dwindled greatly.  Around this time (’03-ish)I asked out one of my extended group of friends who I determined probably wouldn’t be a gold-digger(she was just becoming a Physician’s Assistant).  We briefly dated, but things just weren’t clicking deeply, so it went nowhere and kind of faded out in just a few weeks.

After another year or so of being interested in no one(they all seemed to be annoying princesses), I was inching very close to thirty and ALL my friends were either getting married or at least paired up to the point that those of us who were single were down to almost none.   The first few were already having serious troubles with first marriages/kids etc, and I was getting an early glimpse of things I didn’t really want any part of.  I already didn’t like what I saw, already sort of didn’t want to get married(or definitely not get anyone pregnant), but I still wanted to get laid.  So, it was late 2004 after a pretty good drought and some low self esteem when I decided to try some of the PUA stuff  (I read David Deangelo’s E-book).  I dabbled with a bit of it, but I have very little stomach for ‘being fake’, and it felt very fake to me.  I also don’t drink much, so I wasn’t really wanting a bar chick.  It may work for others, and I say go for it, but I dropped this ‘act’ rather quickly and went back to directionless mild loneliness, but not an overwhelming desire for a relationship.  I don’t think my sex drive has ever been as demanding as it seems to be in others.  Sex is nice, but I was not all about paying stadium beer prices for the ‘Natty light’ I kept seeing on the menu.

I decided instead to buy into the notion of ‘love will come when you least expect it’.  I took the advice of all those who throw out that cliche and quit looking for it.  They say find time consuming hobbies, live your life, enjoy being yourself, etc and you will become attractive to women…      It turns out that was the best thing I could have done, but I found out several years later that I wasn’t really ‘waiting for love’ I was just living my life for me.

THE TURNING POINT

So, it was probably 2005-2006 when I truly moved into the beginnings of MGHOW mode.  During that year I was watching one of my closest friends endure the end game of a 5 year marriage to the “American Princess”. She was LITERALLY a Disney-worshiping princess created by her spoiling dad, who did everything for her.   I listened to stories of my buddy having to CALL INTO WORK FOR HER, because she wouldn’t even do that for herself as a part time waitress at some nameless chain restaurant.  He had to attend to every mundane act of daily life for her, until finally he basically went insane and had to leave her.  Thankfully for him, there were no children and he made it out without crippling Alimony(Daddy took his princess back home).  These stories and others from more distant friends fighting divorce were starting to trickle in.  We were all moving into our early 30’s and this is standard for that period.  I just didn’t know it was standard at the time.  I had the chance to learn from other’s mistakes, and I thank them for allowing me to learn that lesson from their pain.

I have always enjoyed storm chasing locally, and during this transition time I took a vacation to the Great Plains with a fellow semi-local stormchaser buddy(who is/was married).  We went on planned one week stormchases in May of ’05 and ’06.  The best storms those years happened to be outside of that one week window, as one would expect.  So although we had fun and saw a couple good storms I knew to enjoy it you needed a bit more freedom to pick when to go.  Then, in late 2006, my buddy had his first Daughter…  So, Plains chase-cation 2007 was cancelled.    I was majorly bummed for a bit, and wondered why someone would allow their having kids to take away their favorite hobbies…  one of the few things that gives them a real passion for life.  I couldn’t fathom it and was already starting to think I may never want to be married with kids, and should just start doing my hobby by myself.   Early in January ’07, just a few weeks later, the web company I worked for went under and we were all thrown out of work, so i wouldn’t have likely had the money to go that year anyhow, but the seeds of ‘living for only me and being my own best friend’ were planted, so the career search took a turn to plan for that.

WHAT I HAVE DONE SINCE GOING FULL MGTOW

After the Web Programming company folded, I decided to seek a job with the local University IT department where I would have a decent amount of paid leave and could take said leave on short notice to go stormchasing(or anywhere else I wanted to go).  I had to work two other jobs while I was looking the next two years, but in late 2008 I landed the job I wanted.  Low stress, moderate pay, and 5 weeks/yr paid vacation with dedent flexibilty.   I wasn’t on the fast track to big bucks, but I only needed enough money to fund the lifestyle I wanted, not to support a wife’s materialism or to raise children.   I had found balance that worked for me and was about to live life to the fullest.

I started doing just that.  I chased a good number of storms in the Plains by myself in ’09 in my little Honda Accord and loved every minute of it.  That fall, I went to Yellowstone for a week by myself and loved every minute of it.  The solitude of long distance road travel, by myself, was definitely for me.   At this point I decided to go all in on my travel/stormchasing hobby and bought a little Nissan Frontier 4WD, to be able to do the really bad mud and gravel roads that the Honda wasn’t liking.   You should have heard the pressure from the likes of my mother and other women who kept saying “Doesn’t it feel empty to go to those places alone?  Are you ever going to settle down with someone and get a life?”   Before this point(2009-ish), I used to say: “Eh maybe, but no one has been interesting enough yet”.

It was about this time (2010) that I was finding the answer in my head was starting to switch to “No, I’m probably not going to settle down, but I already have a life and it is wonderful.”  I realized I WAS enjoying life, on my terms.  Every instance of hearing what my ‘normal’ married friends are doing started to reinforce that I REALLY was getting the better deal(finally!).  I could drop what I was doing and head to Nebraska on a Wednesday evening for storms on Thursday/Friday.  I could decide I was going to Yellowstone and not have to stop at one Outlet mall or antique store on the way.  I never have to drop $5K on an all inclusive Caribbean beach-cation that would bore me to tears, or on a new living room set to replace the perfectly functional furniture I have.   I could camp in my car on long road trips without wasting money for Hotels that I didn’t feel were a good deal at $80 for 4 or 5 hours of sleep.  It basically just took the biggest stresses out of travel for me.

REALIZING I WAS MGTOW!!

Then of course, it happened in 2012.   A 36 year old single mother of one(16 year old daughter) wanted me, and actually pursued me.   I found her attractive physically and respected that she actually raised her daughter by herself and actually worked the whole time(no welfare, snap, etc).  I still respect that and many aspects of her, and consider her a friend, but I never even let on that I would date her.  Since I knew her for several years,  I already knew she still had many of the worst “Entitled Princess” syndrome, despite the few redeeming qualities.  I knew that I wouldn’t put up with that crap for long, and that she couldn’t change at this point. So, it wasn’t going to happen.

It was at this point that I couldn’t believe that I had endured the loneliness of my late 20’s and early 30’s, when I would have GLADLY accepted this post-c~~~-carousel beta invitation to help her finish raising her daughter.  I had arrived at a point where I found I was better off never having gotten on the boat with society, and actually had the piece of mind to turn down a real offer on the table that society, my family and my friends would have celebrated.  I had happily shrugged off what Society was trying to convince me to do, and didn’t care that they all thought I was crazy, weird or GAY anymore.   I just didn’t know there was a term and a community that would celebrate my choice with me.  Glad to have found you guys, and glad I accidentally arrived here.

[jambearParticipant 282]

I say this with no irony at all, your story is a testament to MGTOW, and everything I hope to achieve myself one day. My only nitpick  is that the post is not longer because I wanted to read more about your life. Truly epic.

[Deus Ex MachinaParticipant 1068]

it’s life experiences like this, i look forward to reading. Great story bro!.

"If You have the Tooth of a Whale, You must have the Whale's Jaw to hold it". (i.e. One Must have the right qualifications for leadership) -Hawaiian Proverb

[JadedParticipant 27]

Well worth the read. So much in here I can identify with and learn from. Thanks for taking the time to contribute.

[Jim01Participant 6678]

what a great story

[Zoby TwoParticipant 83]

Welcome mate. You’re a true hero. Thanks, you made my day.

[Jim01Participant 6678]

God damn inspirational! Read it again and has given me the push I have needed to book up a holiday for next year….I am a massive professional wrestling fan and going to book up to go across to the US on Monday and just live for me

I love the MGTOW lifestyle but I am still getting my head round 30 years of being told my worth should be measured by women and it is awesome stories like this that make me realise how great it is

[RoyDalParticipant]

… accepted this post-c~~~-carousel beta invitation to help her finish raising her daughter.

I knew someone who did that. The daughter (long story) got him tossed in jail for a weekend on domestic violence charges. She must have been paying attention in her high school feminazi classes. He got off in the end. (Whew, close call!)

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Total LeeParticipant 1573]

Awesome story all the way, man. Welcome, you’re in good company.

[FitzBonesParticipant 304]

I think you’ll find that here, introductions are always read. No matter how long. Its a helluva story, truly inspirational.

"If you can fill the unforgiving minute with sixty seconds' worth of distance run,"

[GoneGaltParticipant 361]

Thank you for taking the time it took to write all of that down – inspirational!

[SamMGTOWParticipant 95]

Well worth the read. I’m glad you got the opportunity to live life on your own terms without having to be force fed an infrared red pill. Do what you love, and f~~~ the people that aren’t happy for you.

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