I listened to this interview. I thought CSMGTOW did a good job. I am not nearly as quick with my thoughts or responses. I am glad people like him are out there to communicate with the general public.
Yes, he did do a good job but he was not there to speak for MGTOW and I’m sure he would not claim such a role. MGTOW does not have a spokesman, it does not need or want one. MGTOW has voices for sure, it has opinions aplenty but it does not have an agenda, it is not a movement, it is a community of individuals.
I do feel I must say, however, that at the point where the BBC guy started claiming that females have it worse than makes because more female are aborted in China and India than CSMGTOW should have stopped the discussion:
I disagree. I’ve just listened to the BBC program and it came across as sniping from the sidelines, making snide observations and disputing a few percentage points in statistics. It was an attempt to ridicule and associate MGTOW with extremism. What it lacked was any attempt at real intellectual debate. No counter narrative was presented for discussion, the audience were assumed to just understand that MGTOW is bad without any demonstration of why MGTOW is bad.
I’ve written about this before, how leftist ideology is just assumed to be right without any justification and how this relegates all left wing politics to nothing more than a belief system. This radio show is a prime demonstration of that.
So I think the introduction of a counter narrative by the interviewer was actually quite refreshing and I don’t see why it wasn’t presented in the program, although it was mentioned, as was the gender wage gap and I don’t recall hearing anything about that in CSMGTOW’s version of the interview.
However I don’t think CSMGTOW really handled it very well, he basically avoided replying to it which made him look bad.
Firstly he could have pointed out that MGTOW is a reaction to gynocentrism in WESTERN society. What happens in China is of no interest to MGTOW.
He could have then appeared magnanimous by deigning to answer the point anyway by explaining that the abortion of female fetuses in China came as a direct result of China’s strict one child policy and the lack of any kind of social provision in China. Thus if you only have one child it had better be male otherwise you would have no one to support you in your old age or if you became sick. This situation is an unintended consequence to the single child policy, not a deliberate policy to disadvantage wiminz. Another unintended consequence is that China now has a generation of men who cannot find a wife. Wiminz sexual market value has been elevated because their relative scarcity. Hypergamy is in full swing in China. So this bad policy which supposedly disadvantages wiminz has actually turned into a benefit for them.
As for India, well India is f~~~ed up I’m afraid. I spent 2 months there once and my goodness is it a s~~~ hole. I would consider it a positive thing to be aborted rather than be born into such a grim cesspit of human excrement.
Jolyon Jenkins, you are a smug holier than thou lefty little slap head c~~~ who could not get a job in the real world so works for the BBC producing bollocks like this. You have a face I would never tire of slapping.
“Long is the way and hard, that out of Hell leads up to light.”
Spacemonkey 3 years, 11 months ago.
