Creative ways to avoid Alimony

[Anonymous 38]

We don’t have Alimony here in the UK but I see it a lot on these boards. We have child support, which as far as I know is a separate thing to Alimony in America – I’m happy to be corrected if I’m wrong? Anyway as Alimony is a form of slavery, I’d do all I can to avoid it in that scenario.

Actually I’ve seen posts from guys who’ve secured a sweet deal for themselves. What are they doing differently?

If it was me, I’d do something like this:

See a doctor for depression. Depression after all “is a disease due to chemical imbalances in the brain”, and is thus not your fault.

I’d start telling the Doctor why I’m depressed. I’d be pretty honest, I’d tell him my wife abuses me psychologically, I feel undermined, like a slave, and all that jazz.

I’d then lose my job. Maybe I’d take low-paid or part-time work, just to keep afloat, but something low-paid that’d be either less than my wife earned or so low it wouldn’t be a problem to pay her ‘that to which she is (now) accustomed’.

I don’t know too much about it, but to my mind if you’re ill, and not earning/not earning much, you can’t be totally f~~~ed with Alimony. Or am I wrong? Is there more to it, perhaps your average earnings over the marriage are considered? Is Alimony related to children or completely separate from it?

I just know I’d do anything and everything to make sure the c~~~ didn’t have me made a slave. I’d even start identifying as a woman if it meant I could get off it. F~~~ them, why not?

Are there any flaws in my theoretical plan, or does anyone have any other creative ways of avoiding/heavily reducing Alimony payments?

[JB BooksParticipant 3182]

While alimony in the States is less common than it used to be, with our legal system, expect to get f~~~ed in the ass in a divorce from your former “soul mate”.

We just don't realize life's most significant events while they're happening. Back then, I thought, "Well, there'll be other days". I didn't realize that that was the only day. - "Moonlight" Graham

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22502]

Anonymous wrote:

We don’t have Alimony here in the UK but I see it a lot on these boards. We have child support, which as far as I know is a separate thing to Alimony in America – I’m happy to be corrected if I’m wrong? Anyway as Alimony is a form of slavery, I’d do all I can to avoid it in that scenario.
Actually I’ve seen posts from guys who’ve secured a sweet deal for themselves. What are they doing differently?
If it was me, I’d do something like this:
See a doctor for depression. Depression after all “is a disease due to chemical imbalances in the brain”, and is thus not your fault.
I’d start telling the Doctor why I’m depressed. I’d be pretty honest, I’d tell him my wife abuses me psychologically, I feel undermined, like a slave, and all that jazz.
I’d then lose my job. Maybe I’d take low-paid or part-time work, just to keep afloat, but something low-paid that’d be either less than my wife earned or so low it wouldn’t be a problem to pay her ‘that to which she is (now) accustomed’.
I don’t know too much about it, but to my mind if you’re ill, and not earning/not earning much, you can’t be totally f~~~ed with Alimony. Or am I wrong? Is there more to it, perhaps your average earnings over the marriage are considered? Is Alimony related to children or completely separate from it?
I just know I’d do anything and everything to make sure the c~~~ didn’t have me made a slave. I’d even start identifying as a woman if it meant I could get off it. F~~~ them, why not?
Are there any flaws in my theoretical plan, or does anyone have any other creative ways of avoiding/heavily reducing Alimony payments?

I,kmow you guys have spousal support,over there, the uk storiesmive read have courts awarding women huge amounts of money and allowances.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[black_knightParticipant 2602]

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

I,kmow you guys have spousal support,over there, the uk storiesmive read have courts awarding women huge amounts of money and allowances.

I saw one UK story where a bloke was married to a woman in the early 90s, then they divorced after a short time. AFTER they divorced he started a company which grew to be worth millions. Over 20 years after they divorced she took him to court for cash and prizes and was awarded a few million.

Don’t EVER get married.

[WallyParticipant]

Ha, when I saw your post I thought it was going to link the same article Sky-O found about avoiding child support, divorce and alimony.

I think your idea would work in some circumstances but it probably depends on the judge, and most judges in the family court are feminists.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[Handsome VicParticipant 1613]

Your “plan” is full of holes and will quickly be seen through/disregarded by any judge.
No judge is going to care about your sob story.
The judge will just impute an income against you, and now you have no job (or are purposely underemployed).
There are plenty of examples of men being forced to pay the set amount – which is most of their historical salary- irrespective of circumstances like illness or job loss.

Don’t marry.
Don’t cohabitate.

THAT’s the way to avoid alimony.

Period.

I'm going my own way. Maybe I'll see you there.

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Are there any flaws in my theoretical plan, or does anyone have any other creative ways of avoiding/heavily reducing Alimony payments?

Yes. Never Marry. Problem solved like Vic said.

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[WPLParticipant 2390]

Here’s how I avoided having to pay alimony: my (now ex-) wife decided to run off to shack up with another man, even having a child with him while she and I were still technically married. My ex considered us “separated” but fortunately for me, the state where I live doesn’t recognize “separated” as a legitimate marital status. Here, you’re either married, or you’re not. It also happens to be the case where I live that adultery, if proven to the court’s satisfaction, creates an absolute and lifetime bar against alimony. Well, it took a LOT of time and money to create a solid case (two people being seen together, for instance, only proves “opportunity” — but doesn’t prove adultery) — but I did prove adultery to the court’s satisfaction.

The BEST way to avoid alimony? Don’t marry. When older men suggested to me that marriage was a trap, I dismissed their advice. My Unicorn was different… except, she wasn’t.

[Anonymous 12]

Tips and tricks against alimony?

Is like shagging a whore and using a condom she gave you.

remove the root causes – females and your drive to f~~~ – and that is a much better strategy.

but i want to f~~~!!!

well then… at your own risk.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Anonymous wrote:

anyone have any other creative ways of avoiding/heavily reducing Alimony payments?

Just not getting married is the best plan lol.

JB Books wrote:

While alimony in the States is less common than it used to be, with our legal system, expect to get f~~~ed in the ass in a divorce from your former “soul mate”.

Yup…it really doesn’t matter if they call it alimony or just spank you with retarded amounts of child support…in the end if you are a guy with money and/or a good job you are going to get wrecked for way above and beyond what it costs to raise kid(s).

[RealityBitesParticipant 2198]

Best way is to never Marry
Second best way is BEFORE you marry, put everything into a Non-revocable Trust including all property and have yourself as the recipient…then have the bride to be sign a Pre-nup but don’t tell her about how everything is in a non-revocable trust….if she files for divorce and challenges the pre-nup she is in for a surprise.
Regarding Child Support – if you want the option of having a child, freeze your sperm and then get a Vasectomy and don’t tell the wife/girlfriend…and if she announces that she is pregnant…well…you know she’s been cheating and is trying to pull Paternity Fraud.

Seriously – never marry and never cohabitate and that way you can’t lose at least half of everything you have.

[Sky-OParticipant 18933]

That does not work in the US as a way to avoid paying alimony.

If that plan was enacted prior to a court order for alimony – Then it might influence the amount of alimony.

But in the US, a guy would have to first deplete all available money, assets and be unemployed before a court that previously issued an order (signed by a judge) for alimony to even remotely consider altering it.

The only way out if a guy is still alive would be to take the monthly alimony amount – for example: $3,000 / month ($36,000 a year) and have his attorney contact her attorney with an offer of a five year lump sum payment which would be $180,000 to agree to go back into court and waive alimony over the course of the rest of a guy’s working life. And get a judge to approve and sign off on it.

[Anonymous 38]

WPL wrote:

Here’s how I avoided having to pay alimony: my (now ex-) wife decided to run off to shack up with another man, even having a child with him while she and I were still technically married. My ex considered us “separated” but fortunately for me, the state where I live doesn’t recognize “separated” as a legitimate marital status. Here, you’re either married, or you’re not. It also happens to be the case where I live that adultery, if proven to the court’s satisfaction, creates an absolute and lifetime bar against alimony. Well, it took a LOT of time and money to create a solid case (two people being seen together, for instance, only proves “opportunity” — but doesn’t prove adultery) — but I did prove adultery to the court’s satisfaction.
The BEST way to avoid alimony? Don’t marry. When older men suggested to me that marriage was a trap, I dismissed their advice. My Unicorn was different… except, she wasn’t.

Well played, sir.

Sky-O wrote:

If that plan was enacted prior to a court order for alimony – Then it might influence the amount of alimony.

That’s what I meant – if you knew divorce was coming, altering your circumstances beforehand to reduce or eliminate alimony.

In Europe at least, there is a sense of ‘if a person is unable to do X, he can’t be made to’. So if you’ve no savings, no job, are suffering from ‘a mental illness’, there are systems in place to protect such persons.

In cases where the woman earns more than the man, how does alimony work then – does she need to pay him? (let’s say in this case no kids involved).

[ShimshParticipant 237]

To avoid alimony in a proper way, you need to plan in advance. Before you get a divorce, start liquidating assets into cash, everything you can that wont make her suspicious(including retirement plans/savings accounts etc- do it over time). Keep said cash in a safe spot ( NOT IN your house! – best would be a sibling you trust). Then when you divorce, make sure all your investments are liquid cash and let your family member reinvest them under his name. Quit your job, make sure your trusted family member agrees to give you the dividend payouts from the investments as cash- live off of it.

Congrats, on paper you are a NINJA: No Income, No Job At all. You surely can not support yourself- let alone some harpy.

Fuck E'm

[equalism42Participant 23]

As soon as the relationship goes under tension start putting a few dollars aside for yourself then when it fails, quite your job that way when they come to set any payments they will be based on your zero income. And if she was working there may even be a possibility of claiming off her. Good luck.
You can always migrate….but not if you owe money!

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